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Looks like Palestinians are turning on Hamas


Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support

Open criticism of Hamas has been growing in Gaza, both on the streets and online.
Some have publicly criticised Hamas for hiding the hostages in apartments near a busy marketplace, or for firing rockets from civilian areas.

Residents have told the BBC that swearing and cursing against the Hamas leadership is now common in the markets, and that some drivers of donkey carts have even nicknamed their animals after the Hamas leader in Gaza - Yahya Sinwar - urging the donkeys forward with shouts of "Yallah, Sinwar!"

“People say things like, ‘Hamas has destroyed us’ or even call on God to take their lives,” one man said.
“They ask what the 7 October attacks were for - some say they were a gift to Israel.”

Some are even urging their leaders to agree a ceasefire with Israel.
There are still those in Gaza fiercely loyal to Hamas and after years of repressive control, it’s difficult to know how far the group is losing support, or how far existing opponents feel more able to speak their mind.

But even some on the group’s own payroll are wavering.
One senior Hamas government employee told the BBC that the Hamas attacks were “a crazy, uncalculated leap”.
He asked that we concealed his identity.

“I know from my work with the Hamas government that it prepared well for the attack militarily, but it neglected the home front,” he said.
“They did not build any safe shelters for people, they did not reserve enough food, fuel and medical supplies. If my family and I survive this war, I will leave Gaza, the first chance I get.”
As was inevitable. History has shown that repressed people eventually rise up against their oppressors. Russian revolution. French Revolution.

The only part of this article I disagree with is the sentence I enlarged. Oct.7 was NOT uncalculated. It was totally calculated and it had the desired result. Hamas knew that the Israel reprisals would take an enormous toll on the Gazans and they wanted them to suffer to garner world sympathy. Hamas was using Gazans as human shields so that they could be unwilling martyrs. So when that Hamas government employee said the attacks were uncalculated, he was wrong, but only partially.

What Hamas and Iran did not calculate is that Western democracies (and many Arab nations in the region) hate the terrorists of Hamas so much is that they are willing to let Israel finish the job regardless of the human toll. They know that Hamas is the cause of all of this and wants them eradicated like the cockroaches they are. No Hamas=peace. There has been public bluster against Israel, but behind closed doors the obvious message is stomp them out.
 
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Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession
Seeing as there is no such thing as a Ziontologist nobody is confessing to anything. Your posts are nothing but incoherent interjections that influence no one but Geno.

Sorry, I shouldn't assume. Do you know who I'm referring to when I say Geno? Of course you do.
 

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As was inevitable. History has shown that repressed people eventually rise up against their oppressors. Russian revolution. French Revolution.

The only part of this article I disagree with is the sentence I enlarged. Oct.7 was NOT uncalculated. It was totally calculated and it had the desired result. Hamas knew that the Israel reprisals would take an enormous toll on the Gazans and they wanted them to suffer to garner world sympathy. Hamas was using Gazans as human shields so that they could be unwilling martyrs. So when that Hamas government employee said the attacks were uncalculated, he was wrong, but only partially.

What Hamas and Iran did not calculate is that Western democracies (and many Arab nations in the region) hate the terrorists of Hamas so much is that they are willing to let Israel finish the job regardless of the human toll. They know that Hamas is the cause of all of this and wants them eradicated like the cockroaches they are. No Hamas=peace. There has been public bluster against Israel, but behind closed doors the obvious message is stomp them out.
Sort of like this?

Analysis | Netanyahu's Nightmare: The IDF and the Biden Administration Ganging Up Against Him
The Israeli PM's response to reports of IDF support for a Gaza truce underscores his fear of being undermined by the military and the Biden administration, as concerns over munitions and a potential Hezbollah escalation loom large


 

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Seeing as there is no such thing as a Ziontologist nobody is confessing to anything. Your posts are nothing but incoherent interjections that influence no one but Geno.

Sorry, I shouldn't assume. Do you know who I'm referring to when I say Geno? Of course you do.
You're rambling like some senile old war criminal again, Shazi.

Canada is sanctioning settlers for terrorism.
The Israeli Interior Minister is a terrorist.
Militant settlers are terrorists.

Israeli Settler Terrorism Is State Terror Against Palestinians

 
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As was inevitable. History has shown that repressed people eventually rise up against their oppressors. Russian revolution. French Revolution.

The only part of this article I disagree with is the sentence I enlarged. Oct.7 was NOT uncalculated. It was totally calculated and it had the desired result. Hamas knew that the Israel reprisals would take an enormous toll on the Gazans and they wanted them to suffer to garner world sympathy. Hamas was using Gazans as human shields so that they could be unwilling martyrs. So when that Hamas government employee said the attacks were uncalculated, he was wrong, but only partially.

What Hamas and Iran did not calculate is that Western democracies (and many Arab nations in the region) hate the terrorists of Hamas so much is that they are willing to let Israel finish the job regardless of the human toll. They know that Hamas is the cause of all of this and wants them eradicated like the cockroaches they are. No Hamas=peace. There has been public bluster against Israel, but behind closed doors the obvious message is stomp them out.
No point, it's like talking to a brick wall...They have yet to understand that Palestinians lost everything including their lives because of Hamas, not Israel.
 
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As was inevitable. History has shown that repressed people eventually rise up against their oppressors. Russian revolution. French Revolution.

The only part of this article I disagree with is the sentence I enlarged. Oct.7 was NOT uncalculated. It was totally calculated and it had the desired result. Hamas knew that the Israel reprisals would take an enormous toll on the Gazans and they wanted them to suffer to garner world sympathy. Hamas was using Gazans as human shields so that they could be unwilling martyrs. So when that Hamas government employee said the attacks were uncalculated, he was wrong, but only partially.

What Hamas and Iran did not calculate is that Western democracies (and many Arab nations in the region) hate the terrorists of Hamas so much is that they are willing to let Israel finish the job regardless of the human toll. They know that Hamas is the cause of all of this and wants them eradicated like the cockroaches they are. No Hamas=peace. There has been public bluster against Israel, but behind closed doors the obvious message is stomp them out.
Face saving while Israel sinks. Get out of the simpering and racist cult your community brainwashed you to be a part of.
 
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Sort of like this?
Not in the slightest. Hamas is committing incestuous genocide upon their own people and more and more Gazans are realizing it. That is what that article Phil posted is saying. You can't change the topic Adolph.
 
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Tiktok is filled with videos like this.
The kids are watching these and see Palestinians as humans suffering under the most evil oppression.
You're left with the old guys of terb wondering what happened.
Tiktok is filled with videos like this.
The kids are watching these and see Palestinians as humans shields under the most evil terrorist organization, Hamas.
You're left with the other terrorist supporters of terb wondering what happened, how did we become such fools.
 
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