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Time to get the batons ready 
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Hoping to import this here?Time to get the batons ready
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Or just excited that the police might beat kids in Canada on behalf of Israel?
Looks like Palestinians are turning on Hamas
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Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Open criticism of Hamas has been growing in Gaza, both on the streets and online.
Some have publicly criticised Hamas for hiding the hostages in apartments near a busy marketplace, or for firing rockets from civilian areas.
Residents have told the BBC that swearing and cursing against the Hamas leadership is now common in the markets, and that some drivers of donkey carts have even nicknamed their animals after the Hamas leader in Gaza - Yahya Sinwar - urging the donkeys forward with shouts of "Yallah, Sinwar!"
“People say things like, ‘Hamas has destroyed us’ or even call on God to take their lives,” one man said.
“They ask what the 7 October attacks were for - some say they were a gift to Israel.”
Some are even urging their leaders to agree a ceasefire with Israel.
There are still those in Gaza fiercely loyal to Hamas and after years of repressive control, it’s difficult to know how far the group is losing support, or how far existing opponents feel more able to speak their mind.
But even some on the group’s own payroll are wavering.
One senior Hamas government employee told the BBC that the Hamas attacks were “a crazy, uncalculated leap”.
He asked that we concealed his identity.
“I know from my work with the Hamas government that it prepared well for the attack militarily, but it neglected the home front,” he said.
“They did not build any safe shelters for people, they did not reserve enough food, fuel and medical supplies. If my family and I survive this war, I will leave Gaza, the first chance I get.”
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Palestinians in Gaza are openly criticising the armed group both on the streets and online.
www.bbc.com
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Open criticism of Hamas has been growing in Gaza, both on the streets and online.
Some have publicly criticised Hamas for hiding the hostages in apartments near a busy marketplace, or for firing rockets from civilian areas.
Residents have told the BBC that swearing and cursing against the Hamas leadership is now common in the markets, and that some drivers of donkey carts have even nicknamed their animals after the Hamas leader in Gaza - Yahya Sinwar - urging the donkeys forward with shouts of "Yallah, Sinwar!"
“People say things like, ‘Hamas has destroyed us’ or even call on God to take their lives,” one man said.
“They ask what the 7 October attacks were for - some say they were a gift to Israel.”
Some are even urging their leaders to agree a ceasefire with Israel.
There are still those in Gaza fiercely loyal to Hamas and after years of repressive control, it’s difficult to know how far the group is losing support, or how far existing opponents feel more able to speak their mind.
But even some on the group’s own payroll are wavering.
One senior Hamas government employee told the BBC that the Hamas attacks were “a crazy, uncalculated leap”.
He asked that we concealed his identity.
“I know from my work with the Hamas government that it prepared well for the attack militarily, but it neglected the home front,” he said.
“They did not build any safe shelters for people, they did not reserve enough food, fuel and medical supplies. If my family and I survive this war, I will leave Gaza, the first chance I get.”
Is that anything like the protests in Israel against Netanyahu?Looks like Palestinians are turning on Hamas
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Palestinians in Gaza are openly criticising the armed group both on the streets and online.
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Open criticism of Hamas has been growing in Gaza, both on the streets and online.
Some have publicly criticised Hamas for hiding the hostages in apartments near a busy marketplace, or for firing rockets from civilian areas.
Residents have told the BBC that swearing and cursing against the Hamas leadership is now common in the markets, and that some drivers of donkey carts have even nicknamed their animals after the Hamas leader in Gaza - Yahya Sinwar - urging the donkeys forward with shouts of "Yallah, Sinwar!"
“People say things like, ‘Hamas has destroyed us’ or even call on God to take their lives,” one man said.
“They ask what the 7 October attacks were for - some say they were a gift to Israel.”
Some are even urging their leaders to agree a ceasefire with Israel.
There are still those in Gaza fiercely loyal to Hamas and after years of repressive control, it’s difficult to know how far the group is losing support, or how far existing opponents feel more able to speak their mind.
But even some on the group’s own payroll are wavering.
One senior Hamas government employee told the BBC that the Hamas attacks were “a crazy, uncalculated leap”.
He asked that we concealed his identity.
“I know from my work with the Hamas government that it prepared well for the attack militarily, but it neglected the home front,” he said.
“They did not build any safe shelters for people, they did not reserve enough food, fuel and medical supplies. If my family and I survive this war, I will leave Gaza, the first chance I get.”
IRONIC, IS'NT IT, THE VERY SAME US ZIONISTS INSIST ON A JEWISH STATE IN PALESTINE, EVEN IF IT ENTAILS GENOCIDE
OPINION
PAMELA PAUL
Your Religious Values Are Not American Values
July 4, 2024, 5:05 a.m. ET
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By Pamela Paul
Opinion Columnist
Whenever a politician cites “Judeo-Christian values,” I find it’s generally followed by something unsettling.
Last month brought two flagrant instances. In both cases, Republican officials introduced state laws that formalize precepts of the Christian nationalist movement — in the words of the National Association of Christian Lawmakers (A.D. 2019), “doing everything we can to restore the Judeo-Christian foundation of our nation.”
On June 19, Gov. Jeff Landry of Louisiana signed legislation requiring public classrooms to display the Ten Commandments, a practice struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1980. A rich endorsement came via Donald Trump, who crowed, “I LOVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AND MANY OTHER PLACES, FOR THAT MATTER. READ IT — HOW CAN WE, AS A NATION, GO WRONG???”
One week later, Landry’s fellow Christian soldier Ryan Walters, Oklahoma’s superintendent of public instruction, announced plans to mandate teaching the Bible in public schools. Walters said learning the Bible is necessary to having “an understanding of the basis of our legal system.”
Forgive me for wondering: Is he referring to “an eye for an eye” or the stoning of disobedient children?
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Either way, for both Trump and true believers, it hardly matters that the First Amendment was intended to protect religion from the state, not to have the state impose a religion. (So much for originalism.) Their goal is to impose one form of religion, Christianity, and the underlying message is that those who do not share it will have to submit.
Not only have such moves been declared unconstitutional (“I can’t wait to be sued,” Landry said), but they are also exclusionary and offensive to many.
Despite what the Christian nationalist movement would have you believe, America was not founded as a Christian nation. Nor is it one today. In a pluralistic country, neither the Bible nor Judeo-Christian values are universal, including in the two heavily Christian Southern states in which these laws were passed.
In Louisiana, for example, 2 percent of residents are adherents of other faiths — including Islam, Buddhism, Judaism and Hinduism. Thirteen percent are religious nones, including 4 percent who are atheist or agnostic. In Oklahoma, a similar percentage follow non-Christian religions, and an even larger portion — 18 percent — adhere to no religion.
In a suit challenging the Louisiana law, Americans United for Separation of Church and State noted that among the state’s approximately 680,000 students, many do not practice any religion at all. In response, Landry called on his followers to “stand up for Judeo-Christian values.”
While most of the Ten Commandments involve universal principles, and moral precepts can be found in the Bible, not everyone draws ethical guidelines from religion. And when the Ten Commandments say, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me,” the implication is that there is one true god. That is decidedly not true for all Americans. Some atheists and secular humanists embrace the ideal put forth by Felix Adler, the founder of the Society for Ethical Culture, of deed before creed — that how we act is far more important than what we profess to believe.
Politicians, many of whom regularly flout Adler’s ideal, rarely bother to include nonbelievers — those of us who are not what politicians refer to as people of faith — in their supposedly inclusive rhetoric. This is where leaders of both parties, with their public prayers and displays of religiosity, typically alienate people like me whose principles do not stem from belief in a god. Barack Obama was an exception in including people “with no faith at all,” though I would have preferred a more elegant phrasing. Many of us rationalists do have faith, but it’s in science or humanity, as disappointing as humanity can be.
When it comes to the Ten Commandments, four of the 10 (three if you’re Catholic) concern a specific form of worship with a specific god. I’m on board with a rule against killing, for instance, but somehow this god has given a lot of killing a pass in his name.
And there’s a lot to explain in the Bible itself if you believe it’s a holy book — like its acceptance of slavery.
For me, the Bible’s primary interest is in its historical and literary influence, a work whose stories and metaphors have permeated literature. But it’s also one that, throughout history, has inspired and abetted many of the world’s most violent and deadly wars.
In their drive to foist their religious beliefs on others or to prove their conservative Christian bona fides, Republicans are leaning harder into exclusionary territory. Prominent and mainstream Republicans increasingly support the tenets of the Christian nationalist movement, which often embeds antisemitism and anti-Muslim views into its creed. And it is probably no coincidence that this is occurring as many Christians are fleeing their religion — many, no doubt, because of the hypocrisy and intolerance they’ve witnessed.
In ordinary times, all this would be quickly swatted away by the courts. Unfortunately, the conservative majority of the Supreme Court has demonstrated that, like many Republican politicians, when it comes to freedom of religion — and yes, that must include freedom from religion — those justices are willing to put their own faith above all else.
This Fourth of July, let’s bear in mind that what many Americans value in this country is its inclusion and protection of everyone, regardless of their beliefs.
Zionists are talking about a war with Lebanon, attacking Iran and now re-occupying the Sinai.
All while they just announced the biggest theft of Palestinian land in 3 decades.
All while they just announced the biggest theft of Palestinian land in 3 decades.
Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession
As was inevitable. History has shown that repressed people eventually rise up against their oppressors. Russian revolution. French Revolution.Looks like Palestinians are turning on Hamas
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Palestinians in Gaza are openly criticising the armed group both on the streets and online.
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
Open criticism of Hamas has been growing in Gaza, both on the streets and online.
Some have publicly criticised Hamas for hiding the hostages in apartments near a busy marketplace, or for firing rockets from civilian areas.
Residents have told the BBC that swearing and cursing against the Hamas leadership is now common in the markets, and that some drivers of donkey carts have even nicknamed their animals after the Hamas leader in Gaza - Yahya Sinwar - urging the donkeys forward with shouts of "Yallah, Sinwar!"
“People say things like, ‘Hamas has destroyed us’ or even call on God to take their lives,” one man said.
“They ask what the 7 October attacks were for - some say they were a gift to Israel.”
Some are even urging their leaders to agree a ceasefire with Israel.
There are still those in Gaza fiercely loyal to Hamas and after years of repressive control, it’s difficult to know how far the group is losing support, or how far existing opponents feel more able to speak their mind.
But even some on the group’s own payroll are wavering.
One senior Hamas government employee told the BBC that the Hamas attacks were “a crazy, uncalculated leap”.
He asked that we concealed his identity.
“I know from my work with the Hamas government that it prepared well for the attack militarily, but it neglected the home front,” he said.
“They did not build any safe shelters for people, they did not reserve enough food, fuel and medical supplies. If my family and I survive this war, I will leave Gaza, the first chance I get.”
The only part of this article I disagree with is the sentence I enlarged. Oct.7 was NOT uncalculated. It was totally calculated and it had the desired result. Hamas knew that the Israel reprisals would take an enormous toll on the Gazans and they wanted them to suffer to garner world sympathy. Hamas was using Gazans as human shields so that they could be unwilling martyrs. So when that Hamas government employee said the attacks were uncalculated, he was wrong, but only partially.
What Hamas and Iran did not calculate is that Western democracies (and many Arab nations in the region) hate the terrorists of Hamas so much is that they are willing to let Israel finish the job regardless of the human toll. They know that Hamas is the cause of all of this and wants them eradicated like the cockroaches they are. No Hamas=peace. There has been public bluster against Israel, but behind closed doors the obvious message is stomp them out.
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Seeing as there is no such thing as a Ziontologist nobody is confessing to anything. Your posts are nothing but incoherent interjections that influence no one but Geno.
Sorry, I shouldn't assume. Do you know who I'm referring to when I say Geno? Of course you do.
You're rambling like some senile old war criminal again, Shazi.
Canada is sanctioning settlers for terrorism.
The Israeli Interior Minister is a terrorist.
Militant settlers are terrorists.
Israeli Settler Terrorism Is State Terror Against Palestinians
No point, it's like talking to a brick wall...They have yet to understand that Palestinians lost everything including their lives because of Hamas, not Israel.
