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Munk Debate on Zionism
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His order to return the hostages from Oct.7 were directed at Hamas. Israel took no hostages on Oct.7. They were to busy being raped and slaughtered.
Has Hamas obeyed those orders? Yes or no, Geno. Forget any excuses. Yes or no. Have they returned those hostages immediately and with no qualifications.
Shazi, you're lying again.
Both sides were ordered to return hostages and both sides were ordered to ceasefire.
On top of that Israel was ordered to prevent killing Palestinians, allow all aid through and charge those inciting genocide.
You haven't been charged yet, have you?
Clearly Israel is not abiding by the UNSC, ICC and ICJ.
So you agree, Geno, that Hamas was ordered by the UN to return the hostages taken on Oct.7 and they have not. The UN said to do so unconditionally therefore what Israel does or doesn't do is irrelevant. It is not a condition that gives Hamas permission to disobey the UN. Condemn Hamas for not complying with the UN.
Your definition of lying is to quote the document?
But sure, go to the muddy language of clause 20 instead of the extremely clear text in clauses 1, 2, and 3.
1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it
Instead, Hamas sent a new set of demands.
And the UN, ICC, and ICJ were 100% about Hamas' hostages. The fact that you think Hamas is justified doesn't change what any of those groups said.
How to claim an apartheid ethnostate is a "democracy": Just exclude half the population from participating.
How can Hamas return hostages when they are being bombed and every time they go out they are shot by snipers?
How many hostages do you want Israel to kill?
If you want them back, you need a ceasefire.
Did you see what Israel does to their hostages?
fucking nazis
Yes, when you use partial quotes it is lying.
The UN ceasefire calls for both sides to stop.
Netanyahu negotiated with Hamas and 105 hostages were returned with no killing.
If you want them back, you need a ceasefire.
Meanwhile, Israeli concentration camps are just expanding.
You are the shittiest hasbara troll, basketcase.
Biden submitted that ceasefire plan to the UNSC claiming Israel agreed.
When it was passed Netanyahu declared he didn't agree and would never ceasefire until he's implement his final solution and 'finished the job'.
Netanyahu says he won't agree to a deal that ends the war in Gaza, testing the latest truce proposal
His latest comments come at a sensitive time and could represent another setback for mediators trying to end the war.
apnews.com
Democracy is a term relating to a free election to determine who governs. Every citizen gets to vote. Apartheid is a term that describes how some citizens are discriminated against by governmental policy compared to other citizens and has nothing to do with who or how a person or party comes into power.
They are two separate topics.
Learn history. At one point, blacks in S. Africa were citizens with full rights but the governmental policy of apartheid took many of those rights away. Palis on the West Bank or in Gaza were never citizens. As such no rights of citizenship were ever taken away from them. There is no apartheid and the UN's lack of a resolution saying that bears me out. They passed a resolution in 1963 condemning S. Africa of just that, apartheid. This is documented history. These are my facts and this is my logic.
Please stop with your idiotic claims. I've educated you multiple times already.
I have been educated throughout my life by intelligent and educated people. I would never include you in that group.
Worry about yourself and all the people that mock you for your inability to maintain a coherent conversation. Should I name them all?
No it wouldn't. Hamas has stated that they want to eradicate all Jews in the area. They will keep bombing and attacking.
The UN said UNCONDITIONALLY.
Do you understand English? It means that the UN doesn't give a shit about what's going on around them.
Are you saying NOW that we shouldn't listen to what the UN says? Are you changing your policy regarding statements from the UN?
How to claim an apartheid ethnostate is a "democracy": Deny citizenship to half the population, but also deny them their own state.
