Sugar Dating Experience

IMBob

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Lots of fake Chinese profiles on Seeking recently. 33 or 34 yr on profile . examples

https://members.seeking.com/member/b421f8c5-74d7-48b1-8e61-c4220fd67036.

About Me

"I am looking for life partner. Friend is also fine. 169 cm and 58 kg. Open and active girl. Travel. golf an cooking are my passion. Pet and flower lover." Always the same weight and height.
 
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shack

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Lots of fake Chinese profiles on Seeking recently. 33 or 34 yr on profile . examples

https://members.seeking.com/member/b421f8c5-74d7-48b1-8e61-c4220fd67036.

About Me

"I am looking for life partner. Friend is also fine. 169 cm and 58 kg. Open and active girl. Travel. golf an cooking are my passion. Pet and flower lover." Always the same weight and height.
It is absolutely amazing how many drop dead gorgeous 34-37 year old (they look no more than 24) women there with only 1 pic and it's very artistic and professional. A lot of them are Asian.
 

oral.com

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Lots of fake Chinese profiles on Seeking recently. 33 or 34 yr on profile . examples

https://members.seeking.com/member/b421f8c5-74d7-48b1-8e61-c4220fd67036.

About Me

"I am looking for life partner. Friend is also fine. 169 cm and 58 kg. Open and active girl. Travel. golf an cooking are my passion. Pet and flower lover." Always the same weight and height.
Butchered Pig Scam:
After connecting they immediately want to move to text or WhatsApp.
They are always available to chat but never to meet.
Eventually they try to get you to finance something.
 
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Leimonis

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Butchered Pig Scam:
After connecting they immediately want to move to text or WhatsApp.
They are always available to chat but never to meet.
Eventually they try to get you to finance something.
Love the name! Very poetic
 
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RobI

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Lots of fake Chinese profiles on Seeking recently. 33 or 34 yr on profile . examples

https://members.seeking.com/member/b421f8c5-74d7-48b1-8e61-c4220fd67036.

About Me

"I am looking for life partner. Friend is also fine. 169 cm and 58 kg. Open and active girl. Travel. golf an cooking are my passion. Pet and flower lover." Always the same weight and height.
Seeking seems to have nuked them all, except for JueJue (last one)
 

Leimonis

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Great thread. Learning a lot from you gentlemen. If you look good in photos, how bad of an idea is it to place one's phone number on one's profile (i.e. SD) and just let the calls come in without wasting too much time perusing? I'm looking for efficiency of a flow of options.
Having a bunch of unscreened fraudsters and uglies contact you is the opposite of efficiency.
if you truly don’t care if your woman is fat or old or otherwise not conventionally attractive then it should be easy for you to find one anyway.
 
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RobI

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Great thread. Learning a lot from you gentlemen. If you look good in photos, how bad of an idea is it to place one's phone number on one's profile (i.e. SD) and just let the calls come in without wasting too much time perusing? I'm looking for efficiency of a flow of options.
Usually, photos have to be approved or checked, and putting your number will probably just get it declined. I'm sure the girls posting "Don't have a paid membership, DM me your number" would have figured this out before if worked :)
 
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The SB's don't care if you are 40 or 50. I've had one that liked my dirty talk and said she didn't want money, just sex, but all others want money. I had one recently that was cute, wanted $350. But couldn't suck dick very well. Most in GTA, good looking, not straight up LL girls, want $500. My ppm is $400 but will do $500 after the first date if I like them. I refuse more than $500 under any circumstances. But I also will pay for a few cocktails, which is basically another $100, I've even stopped in a lingerie store with them and bought something. But never a monthly or over $500. Also, it is critical to meet them first for a drink. You need to make sure their pics are accurate and not obviously on drugs or likely to be setting you up. Only go with girls that have a decently written profile unless you want a LL girl using the seeking site for more biz.
Ususlly how long is meeting time? 1 hour or 2 hours or more?
 

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This thread is nuts. Don’t you guys have sos? Meeting with SPs can be kept discrete. This sounds lot harder to keep discrete. Just curious lol
 

shack

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This thread is nuts. Don’t you guys have sos? Meeting with SPs can be kept discrete. This sounds lot harder to keep discrete. Just curious lol
If the SB wants to keep the cash flowing, she'd better be damn sure that she keeps things discreet.
 

Leimonis

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If the SB wants to keep the cash flowing, she'd better be damn sure that she keeps things discreet.
I still see his concern. Even if discreet it’s still more involving than simply seeing an SP.
Although a ton of SBs have mentioned that they had married daddies. It’s definitely a thing.
 

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My experience after a couple of weeks:

There are some scammers but are easy to spot if you're not a total nincompoop. Example: I want to establish a real connection online first, oh, something came up and I can't meet you in person (like a family emergency that requires a trip away), I am great at investments, here are some (fake) examples to show you how great I am, and do you want to deepen our connection by investing with me (i.e. give me your money and I'll invest for you).

Then there are those who ask for ridiculous sums of money. 3-4K monthly allowance or that one woman who said that men in their 30s give her 600 PPM, men in the 40s give her 800 PPM, etc., another asked for 800 PPM and 200 for just a coffee date (my time isn't free, hun, she said). Many ask for 500-600 PPM but can be talked down to 300-400.

So far I've found two: one who can host so no added hotel expense; she's young and cute but I think she sees a few men and is what I would describe as part-time escort. Another who simply did not specify any amount but said anything you can help! She's young and cute.

I've also agreed with a couple on 300 PPM but I'd need to find a place.

So yeah, you can find decent ones but the search is long and be careful of all those scammers.
 

Mhorgan

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I posted on Reddit toronto sugar dating and got lucky once. FOB Indian girl looks really sexy. (22) monthly allowance was $800 but allows only two meets per month and downside in each meet she only allows one shot telling me I am too big it hurts. Hotel costs me $120 and need to buy lunch too. Too much.... after few months I was getting board and getting too expensive. She young , hot 36 DD and cute but the sex part not like SP. Not experienced. Bbbj not great either.

I think I am going to stick to SPs going forward.
 
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dvous11

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And this

Men are getting wise to the massive number of FB groups created by women under the context of "safety and protecting each other"...where they post men's pics and either ask if anyone has red flags about them...or slander the posted men for whatever reason....usually cuz the women have been ghosted, or they got banged then ghosted etc. These women are referred to as the "Un-picked" and are generally bitter. Men are starting to realize dating apps are stacked against them on multiple levels, and since they are the majority who pay for the subscriptions....
 
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Men are getting wise to the massive number of FB groups created by women under the context of "safety and protecting each other"...where they post men's pics and either ask if anyone has red flags about them...or slander the posted men for whatever reason....usually cuz the women have been ghosted, or they got banged then ghosted etc. These women are referred to as the "Un-picked" and are generally bitter. Men are starting to realize dating apps are stacked against them on multiple levels, and since they are the majority who pay for the subscriptions....
Well if they...... ( women)
1. paid their own
2. real photo
3. truth who they are
4. not looking for a handy man temporary - no transactional sex

I think both sides be happy.

You have link to one of these FB groups?
 
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ValuedSupporter

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My 2 cents after a few weeks.

* My profile is pretty clear that I just want "one or two FWB-meetings a month where they host. No one reads my fucking profile. I get a lot of "I'm not looking for that".
* there is a lot of, "I need, $1500 for tuition tomorrow but I'll see you next week". Riiiiight.
* Under 25 sincerely believe that men just want to throw $ at them for being young and pretty
* Most escorts west of Toronto are say $350 to $400/Hour. The PPM SB/SD rate seems to be $500 per meet. Given that the timing is very "flexible", this MIGHT be the same price from a certain point of view. I have no desire to push the time limits and see how flexible
* KWC-G area, there's no non-escort sub-25 year old lSB looking for sex. They've bought into the whole dinner, dance, travel thing. Maybe they get it, no idea.
* However, I've done really well with a certain demographic. They have kids, going to school, they can host and they need $. I'm one of many SDs but most of their SDs want dinner and stupid shit. The two SBs that I see hate it as it works out to be $100 to $150 per hour. They appreciate that I show up, 60-90 minutes, I'm gone.
* I'm completely aware that some girls are low-balling themselves because they just don't know any better. Sorry guys, I send them LL & Tryst links to show what social rates & Escorting rates are. What goes around comes around so I'm not cheating anybody.
* It's a LOT more work and it's a bit of shit show. Going to Escorts via Tryst and Leolist is a lot easier.

July 1st update: there must be a bunch of SBs must trade “who’s safe” messages because in the last little bit I’ve gotten 5 messages and they’re all very quick to say they can host during the day, kids are in school, they just want hookups, for an hour and their PPM is remarkably similar.
 
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