Sure, blame Bieber for this.Of course the first three can be traced to Justin Bieber's evil and timeless influence.
Its as good as any other story you've pushed here.
Sure, blame Bieber for this.Of course the first three can be traced to Justin Bieber's evil and timeless influence.
What a pathetic attempt to invert reality. i don't speak for anyone but myself but unlike you, I do respect Palestinians enough to listen to what they have to say.Would you stop claiming to speak for Palestinians?
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Are you pretending that our entire system isn't based on the colonial system forced on our indigenous people or that they aren't still oppressed and still being dispossessed? Of course you are because you aren't willing to examine the systemic oppression you are a part of, no different than your attempts to whitewash Modi's use of nationalism and your idolization of a Nazi SS commander.Yes a former colonial entity...
So why did you claim they did?Palestinians do not want Israeli citizenship...
I know you don't care about Palestinians but does it occur to you that either a One or Two State peace requires Palestinians to agree to it? Sadly 75% of Palestinians only want a Palestinian state without Jews according to the polling I posted....So it is up to Israel to give them freedom, lands etc., If a one state solution does not work, let them go back to the 1967 borders and form a 2 state solution. Either way the end result should be Palestinian sovereignty and freedom.
Right. Their leaders rejected any kind of peaceful compromise and most of them still do.Palestinians did not choose partition ...
Systemic oppression exists everywhere. It is not unique to colonial entities. What is important is to examine which of these colonial entities is genociding indigeneous people. Only one is. That is Israel.Are you pretending that our entire system isn't based on the colonial system forced on our indigenous people or that they aren't still oppressed and still being dispossessed? Of course you are because you aren't willing to examine the systemic oppression you are a part of, no different than your attempts to whitewash Modi's use of nationalism and your idolization of a Nazi SS commander.
Because they do. They want a one state solution and EQUAL rights. But not as part of Israel the JEWISH state. But as part of a secular, democratic state that happens to be called "Israel".So why did you claim they did?
75% of Palestinians dont agree to it, because a two state solution proposed by Israel demands that they accept the status quo. There is no accepting the status quo for a 2 state solution. 1967 borders or none. If it is a one state solution as I mentioned it has to be in a secular, democratic Israel. Not a "JEWISH" Israel. Why would they want to become 2nd class citizens? So on both counts they are right to reject.I know you don't care about Palestinians but does it occur to you that either a One or Two State peace requires Palestinians to agree to it? Sadly 75% of Palestinians only want a Palestinian state without Jews according to the polling I posted.
So you back BDS, a ceasefire, the end of the occupation and the end of apartheid?I do respect Palestinians enough to listen to what they have to say.
Palestinians rejected the Brits giving half of Palestine to a foreign colonial movement that was intent on taking all of Palestine, true.Right. Their leaders rejected any kind of peaceful compromise and most of them still do.
Sorry pal but your stated belief was the "colonial" nature of Israel means it is illegitimate and that Jews being there is illegitimate. At the same time, you are a settler in Canada like most of us here and refuse to accept that \Indigenous groups are STILL having land taken from them and STILL being subjected to far below standard living conditions.Systemic oppression exists everywhere. It is not unique to colonial entities. What is important is to examine which of these colonial entities is genociding indigeneous people. Only one is. That is Israel.
So why have you repeatedly tried to justify it? It must be embarrassing that you have freely called anyone who supports a Sikh state as terrorists but have a completely opposite view when it comes to people wanting a Palestinian state.And I have not whitewashed Modi's use of nationalism
Um, you're being stupid. Do you think they need you to tell them what they want?...
Because they do. They want a one state solution and EQUAL rights.
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I back a ceasefire. Hamas doesn't and neither do you.So you back BDS, a ceasefire, the end of the occupation and the end of apartheid?
So you back the Canadian solution?Sorry pal but your stated belief was the "colonial" nature of Israel means it is illegitimate and that Jews being there is illegitimate. At the same time, you are a settler in Canada like most of us here and refuse to accept that \Indigenous groups are STILL having land taken from them and STILL being subjected to far below standard living conditions.
All you are doing is showing an complete inability to admit the issues your own presence here causes.
So why have you repeatedly tried to justify it? It must be embarrassing that you have freely called anyone who supports a Sikh state as terrorists but have a completely opposite view when it comes to people wanting a Palestinian state.
And Bose was a commander in the Waffen SS and his troops swore loyalty to Hitler.
Um, you're being stupid. Do you think they need you to tell them what they want?
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5% want a "One-State Solution for Two Peoples".
There is no ambiguity.
Hamas backs a ceasefire, its Israel that refuses to send the UN a letter saying they will support the US resolution.I back a ceasefire. Hamas doesn't and neither do you.
And I respect people enough to listen to what they say. Unlike you and K, I don't pretend to speak for them and I'm not afraid to agree or criticize them when appropriate.
No. I said Israel, Canada and the US are all settler colonial states but only Israel was formed illegitimately. Canada and the US were formed long after people settled there and people did not settle there with the intent of forming a state.Sorry pal but your stated belief was the "colonial" nature of Israel means it is illegitimate and that Jews being there is illegitimate. At the same time, you are a settler in Canada like most of us here and refuse to accept that \Indigenous groups are STILL having land taken from them and STILL being subjected to far below standard living conditions.
All you are doing is showing an complete inability to admit the issues your own presence here causes.
Quote me where I justified Hindu Nationalism. I challenge you. Yes someone, especially foreign citizens, who do not have citizenship in India, and who engage in separatism against India, while living a foreign state, is a foreign state actor, and it is a hostile act directed against India and therefore is a terrorist especially when they belong to groups that have actually KILLED 300 Canadians. I wouldn't even say this if the majority of Sikhs support this movement. But the majority of Sikhs OPPOSE Khalistan. So Sikhs themselves will call Khalistanis terrorists.So why have you repeatedly tried to justify it? It must be embarrassing that you have freely called anyone who supports a Sikh state as terrorists but have a completely opposite view when it comes to people wanting a Palestinian state.
And Bose was a commander in the Waffen SS and his troops swore loyalty to Hitler.
No, they don't need YOU selectively cherry picking and misinterpreting their preferences while conveniently trying to ignore the WHY behind their choices. You aren't as glib as you think you are.Um, you're being stupid. Do you think they need you to tell them what they want?
So now you think Israel is like Canada was 200 years ago and that's your argument?A million Ottoman Jews and several hundred thousand Jewish immigrants.
Palestinian leaders chose war.
p.s. Seems the Brits did far worse here but you don't give a shit.
You should try thinking instead of just spamming tweets.So now you think...
And that is proof of your stupid double standard.No. I said Israel, Canada and the US are all settler colonial states but only Israel was formed illegitimately....
Wow you're being disingenuous. I can show you many, many polls conducted BY Palestinians and there is not a single one that says the majority want an egalitarian One State peace where Jews and Palestinians have equal rights. Depending on time and polling agency, the support for a One State peace in the past decade has been between single digits and 30% with support for a Two State peace between 35 and 55% (Gazans in March had 62% support)....;
No, they don't need YOU selectively cherry picking and misinterpreting their preferences while conveniently trying to ignore the WHY behind their choices. You aren't as glib as you think you are.
You can present a 100 studies but you'd still be cherry picking and misinterpreting their preferences while conveniently trying to ignore the WHY behind their choices. If Palestinians are refusing both a 1 state or a 2 state solution, they are doing so because they dont trust their genociders. Can you blame them? No. But you do. You genocide them and then hold THEM responsible for refusing to trust you. That is like blaming Jews for not trusting the Nazis. No. Israel is solely to be blamed for this. If you want Palestinians to accept anything, it will first involve, Israel GIVING UP something. And that something has to be either land, or their JEWISH identity.Wow you're being disingenuous. I can show you many, many polls conducted BY Palestinians and there is not a single one that says the majority want an egalitarian One State peace where Jews and Palestinians have equal rights. Depending on time and polling agency, the support for a One State peace in the past decade has been between single digits and 30% with support for a Two State peace between 35 and 55% (Gazans in March had 62% support).
Your claims of "cherry picking" are simply your desperate attempt to justify your belief that Palestinians need to do what you want.
Although Canada and the US are settler colonial states much like Israel, they weren't formed based on claims of people from Europe being entitled to the land. They were formed as a natural consequence of colonialism and initially they were oppressive states indeed. However, with time, this has changed. The only place where it has not changed is in Israel.And that is proof of your stupid double standard.
Canada and the US exist as they do because the Brits (and French and Spanish) decided they wanted the land. There was no European presence in the Americas and no history other than a few Norse expeditions. The entirety of the US and Canadian systems are the result of Europeans imposing their will by force and our 'legitimacy" is based solely on the fact we were strong enough to hold it and the modern system is still directly descended from the British form of government they imposed.
Israel has a Jewish history going back thousands of years and has always been the location of Judaism's holiest sites. More importantly, there have always been Jews there. The numbers have varied over time as invaders and colonizers like the Romans, Islamic Empires, and Crusader states imposed exiles, repression, or periods of pluralism. It's also worth noting that each of those groups and the Ottomans were just as imperial and colonizers as Industrial era Europeans.
Pre-zionism, Ottoman censuses show Jews being either the largest or one of the largest ethnicities in Jerusalem and showed hundreds of thousands of Jews elsewhere in their empire. When the Ottoman Empire collapsed, various ethnic groups ended up with their own states, often involving population transfers as ethnicities collected together. Examples include Greece, Bosnia, Egypt, Libya, Armenia, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, and Iraq.
And Israel was formed by the UN; there is nothing else that gives a state such legitimacy in the modern world. And sorry but the fact that Israel did openly and freely give citizenship to every Arab who chose to stay inside Israel proves your claims wrong.
As for status, you are just as much as a settler as the rest of us. None of us were alive when the Brits/French took Canada but we do benefit from the theft and genocide that occurred and we do sit by as people like Doug Ford continue to try and take land from them. And laughable that you claim being an immigrant (without permission of the indigenous) makes you exempt from the ongoing persecution of Canada's indigenous while at the same time, condemning immigrants to Israel as illegitimate based solely on your idiotic perception Israel (but not Canada) being illegitimate.
ExcellentYou can present a 100 studies but you'd still be cherry picking and misinterpreting their preferences while conveniently trying to ignore the WHY behind their choices. If Palestinians are refusing both a 1 state or a 2 state solution, they are doing so because they dont trust their genociders. Can you blame them? No. But you do. You genocide them and then hold THEM responsible for refusing to trust you. That is like blaming Jews for not trusting the Nazis. No. Israel is solely to be blamed for this. If you want Palestinians to accept anything, it will first involve, Israel GIVING UP something. And that something has to be either land, or their JEWISH identity.
Although Canada and the US are settler colonial states much like Israel, they weren't formed based on claims of people from Europe being entitled to the land. They were formed as a natural consequence of colonialism and initially they were oppressive states indeed. However, with time, this has changed. The only place where it has not changed is in Israel.
Israel's Jewish history is irrelevant because Israel is the birthplace of all 3 semitic religions. All 3 religions therefore can claim Israel to be their ancestral lands. All of this is moot anyway as regardless of Judaism's history in the land, no European Jewish person, or even an Arab Jewish person, apart from the minority who lived there in the 20th century, have any claim to the land. They were not there for 1000s of years. They lost the claim to the land.
And Israel was not formed by the UN. The UN does not have the authority to form countries or enforce borders. The UN recommended a partition by adopting a resolution at the UNGA. The Israeli settler colonialists then just took over the land and declared independence. Israel did not freely give citizenship to Arabs. They first ethnically cleansed them as much as possible and gave citizenship to the remaining minority. As I said, even if Arabs had welcomed them with open arms, Zionisms goals of establishing a JEWISH state, is incompatible with peace. It would have still resulted in violence.
And no, it is moronic to call me a settler. Settlers settle in a land without immigration laws, much like the European Jews did before 1948. Immigrants like me, apply for immigration in an established state, via legal processes.
Canada is not persecuting indigeneous people currently. Systemic racism exists. But that is not state sponsored apartheid, terrorism, and genocide, like Israel visits upon the Palestinians. Its idiotic to even compare a country like Canada that takes truth and reconciliation seriously with Israel that is extremely vociferous and hateful about the way they talk about Palestinians and call for their genocide.
Check out Palestine before zionists took over, if you're interested in the history.You should try thinking instead of just spamming tweets.
Under the Ottomans, Jerusalem and Hebron had significant indigenous Jewish communities.
And when the Ottoman Empire broke up, each ethnic group (except the Kurds) got a piece of it. Why do you think the million Ottoman Jews should be excluded?