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What's a Ziontologist?
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What's a Ziontologist?
The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.
“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.
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“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.
Hamas leader said civilian death toll could benefit militant group in Gaza war, WSJ reports
The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.
Sinwar and Netanyahu - the "two psychopaths in charge"...The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.
“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.
Hamas leader said civilian death toll could benefit militant group in Gaza war, WSJ reports
The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.
Hamas committed a massive terror attack against mainly civilian targets that not only derailed a continuing improvement in the opportunities for Gazans but started a war, all because Sinwar thinks dead Palestinians look good in pictures.
Israel arrests people engaged or suspected of violent acts. Hamas took hostages because they were in Israel.
The proof? The ICC, ICJ, and UN all demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages. No such demand to Israel.
Hamas should stop doing that.
Just another case of your asinine double standard. UN reports on Hamas' use of sexual violence and you claim it's an Israeli conspiracy but some rando on twitter? Must be true
.Netanyahu backs the ceasefire. That's why he sent the negotiators. He may say different things in the news but that's just playing politics to cover hi based.
Meanwhile Hamas' political arm makes noises about the deal but Sinwar wants the deaths so they rejected the UNSC demand and are still pretending to negotiate.
"real jew"
Not only do you think you are the ones determining who real Jews are but you use an extremely fringe sect often described as a cult as your ideal.
The Nazis convinced their people that was happening. They spent a decade brainwashing the people about Jews ruling the country and being responsible for all the world's problems. Sound familiar?
Look at the linguistic gymnastics to avoid admitting Hamas are a problem.
Most Palestinians aren't Hamas. Hamas is a repressive terror group that targets civilians Jews and abuses the people of Gaza. They deserve to be condemned. This is just another attempt of your to claim criticizing Gaza's leadership is racist while you condemn all of Israel.
More excuses. The UN, ICC, and ICJ disagree with you.
And funny that a guy who backed the killing of a Sikh activist is upset when police forces go to arrest criminal suspects.
Not legally.
As the occupying power they do not have the legal right to self defence against the people they are occupying.
Yes, that's why when you do it I correct it.
You really should stop that shit, it pathetic.
That's a confession of ignorance, grandpa.
The UN says Israel is raping women and children in their campaign of extermination.
Read the report so you don't sound ignorant.
Israeli concentration camps.
Your little buddy's posts make such confessions daily.
Geno, what is a Ziontologist? Please be true to your word and answer directly.
You realize that every time you attempt to insult me with your new idiotic nickname (#6?), you are including your grandfather as well. Others are now calling you out for being an ageist.
Once and for all admit that Amoeba's nickname for me is far superior to any of yours. He's had your back for so long, but you are so egotistical you are unable to acknowledge his work.
Just to be clear, HAMAS rejected the latest ceasefire proposal, while ISRAEL agreed.
This is a common occurrance with multiple peace agreements throughout the years. Then Al Jazeera and liars on social media (and TERB) spin it that Israel keeps rejecting them.
Lies, lies and more lies.
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This is a common occurrance with multiple peace agreements throughout the years. Then Al Jazeera and liars on social media (and TERB) spin it that Israel keeps rejecting them.
Lies, lies and more lies.
Secretary Blinken says Hamas is responsible for prolonging war with Israel
Speaking in Doha after meeting with Qatari officials, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said "the war will go on" after Hamas failed to agree to cease-fire proposals that were "virtually identical" to a deal that Hamas put forward in early May.
Apparently this latest ceasefire agreement is identical to the one HAMAS put forward last month. Now they move the goal posts.
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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Wednesday expressed frustration that Hamas has submitted “numerous changes” to a US-backed proposal for a ceasefire and release of hostages in Gaza – a development that casts further doubt on the prospects of quickly securing the deal the US hopes will bring “an enduring end” to the war.
“Some of the changes are workable. Some are not,” Blinken said at a press conference in Doha, describing some of those changes as going “beyond positions (Hamas) had previously taken.”
Blinken, unlike an Israeli official who spoke to CNN earlier, did not go as far as to describe the response by Hamas as a rejection of the proposal, and said he believed that the “gaps” are “bridgeable.” Still, the top US diplomat made clear his exasperation at both the changes Hamas proposed and the length of time it took to reply – 12 days. He did not go into specific details about the changes, but he continued to cast exclusive blame for the stalling of the deal – and the prolonging of the suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza – on the US-designated terrorist group, not on Israel.
“Israel accepted the proposal as it was" he reiterated, despite repeated public statements from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seeming to cast doubt on his approval of the proposal.
“Hamas could have answered with a single word – yes,” he said.
“At some point in a negotiation – and this has gone back and forth for a long time – you get to a point where if one side continues to change its demands, including making demands and insisting on changes for things that it had already accepted, you have to question whether they’re proceeding in good faith or not,” Blinken said in reference to Hamas.
“It’s time for the haggling to stop and a ceasefire to start. It’s as simple as that,” he said.
US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on Wednesday described “many” of Hamas’ proposed changes as “minor and not unanticipated,” but said “others differ more substantively from what was outlined in the UN Security Council resolution.”
That resolution, which passed the UN body on Monday, laid out the three phrases for the ceasefire and hostage release. In the first phase, there would be “an immediate, full, and complete ceasefire” with the release of hostages and “withdrawal of Israeli forces from the populated areas in Gaza.” In phase two, “upon agreement of the parties,” there would be “a permanent end to hostilities, in exchange for the release of all other hostages still in Gaza, and a full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.” Phase three would see “the start of a major multi-year reconstruction plan for Gaza and the return of the remains of any deceased hostages still in Gaza to their families.”
A diplomatic source told CNN the Hamas response “contained amendments to the Israeli proposal, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Gaza Strip.”
A senior US administration official told CNN that “the goalposts are moving,” in Hamas’ response, and the group “is now pressing for even greater specificity than it did before.”
The official had previously told CNN that what was on the table was “pretty thin once you get past that first phase.”
“Hamas’s requests would ultimately undermine the phased nature of the proposal on which agreement rests,” the senior administration official said Wednesday. “It will be difficult to get Israel to agree to automaticity that the ceasefire will become permanent.”
While much of Blinken’s trip to Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Qatar had been centered on ratcheting up pressure on Hamas to take the proposal for an immediate ceasefire, it was also focused on developing plans for when a ceasefire is put into place.
It is “crucial” to move from an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza “to an enduring end” to the war, Blinken said Wednesday in some of his most straight-forward comments yet calling for the end to the eight-month long conflict.
“In the coming weeks, we will put forward proposals for key elements of the ‘day after’ plan, including concrete ideas for how to manage governance, security, reconstruction,” the top US diplomat said, without providing further details.
Still, any movement on any of those aspects is contingent on an end to the fighting in Gaza, which has claimed the lives of more than 37,000 Palestinians and left the strip in what aid officials have described as an “unprecedented” humanitarian catastrophe.
“In the days ahead, we are going to continue to push on an urgent basis with our partners, with Qatar, with Egypt, to try to close this deal,” Blinken said Wednesday as he wrapped up his eighth round of shuttle diplomacy since the October 7 Hamas attack.
Hamas submitted its reply to the multi-phased ceasefire and hostage release proposal to mediators on Tuesday. According to a senior State Department official, Blinken, who was in Amman at the time, dispatched two of the senior staff traveling with him to retrieve Hamas’ response from Egyptian Intelligence Chief Abbas Kamel, who was also in the Jordanian capital.
Izzat al-Rishq, a member of the Hamas political bureau, described their response as “responsible, serious and positive.”
CNN
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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Wednesday expressed frustration that Hamas has submitted “numerous changes” to a US-backed proposal for a ceasefire and release of hostages in Gaza – a development that casts further doubt on the prospects of quickly securing the deal the US hopes will bring “an enduring end” to the war.
“Some of the changes are workable. Some are not,” Blinken said at a press conference in Doha, describing some of those changes as going “beyond positions (Hamas) had previously taken.”
Blinken, unlike an Israeli official who spoke to CNN earlier, did not go as far as to describe the response by Hamas as a rejection of the proposal, and said he believed that the “gaps” are “bridgeable.” Still, the top US diplomat made clear his exasperation at both the changes Hamas proposed and the length of time it took to reply – 12 days. He did not go into specific details about the changes, but he continued to cast exclusive blame for the stalling of the deal – and the prolonging of the suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza – on the US-designated terrorist group, not on Israel.
“Israel accepted the proposal as it was" he reiterated, despite repeated public statements from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seeming to cast doubt on his approval of the proposal.
“Hamas could have answered with a single word – yes,” he said.
“At some point in a negotiation – and this has gone back and forth for a long time – you get to a point where if one side continues to change its demands, including making demands and insisting on changes for things that it had already accepted, you have to question whether they’re proceeding in good faith or not,” Blinken said in reference to Hamas.
“It’s time for the haggling to stop and a ceasefire to start. It’s as simple as that,” he said.
US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on Wednesday described “many” of Hamas’ proposed changes as “minor and not unanticipated,” but said “others differ more substantively from what was outlined in the UN Security Council resolution.”
That resolution, which passed the UN body on Monday, laid out the three phrases for the ceasefire and hostage release. In the first phase, there would be “an immediate, full, and complete ceasefire” with the release of hostages and “withdrawal of Israeli forces from the populated areas in Gaza.” In phase two, “upon agreement of the parties,” there would be “a permanent end to hostilities, in exchange for the release of all other hostages still in Gaza, and a full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.” Phase three would see “the start of a major multi-year reconstruction plan for Gaza and the return of the remains of any deceased hostages still in Gaza to their families.”
A diplomatic source told CNN the Hamas response “contained amendments to the Israeli proposal, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Gaza Strip.”
A senior US administration official told CNN that “the goalposts are moving,” in Hamas’ response, and the group “is now pressing for even greater specificity than it did before.”
The official had previously told CNN that what was on the table was “pretty thin once you get past that first phase.”
“Hamas’s requests would ultimately undermine the phased nature of the proposal on which agreement rests,” the senior administration official said Wednesday. “It will be difficult to get Israel to agree to automaticity that the ceasefire will become permanent.”
While much of Blinken’s trip to Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Qatar had been centered on ratcheting up pressure on Hamas to take the proposal for an immediate ceasefire, it was also focused on developing plans for when a ceasefire is put into place.
It is “crucial” to move from an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza “to an enduring end” to the war, Blinken said Wednesday in some of his most straight-forward comments yet calling for the end to the eight-month long conflict.
“In the coming weeks, we will put forward proposals for key elements of the ‘day after’ plan, including concrete ideas for how to manage governance, security, reconstruction,” the top US diplomat said, without providing further details.
Still, any movement on any of those aspects is contingent on an end to the fighting in Gaza, which has claimed the lives of more than 37,000 Palestinians and left the strip in what aid officials have described as an “unprecedented” humanitarian catastrophe.
“In the days ahead, we are going to continue to push on an urgent basis with our partners, with Qatar, with Egypt, to try to close this deal,” Blinken said Wednesday as he wrapped up his eighth round of shuttle diplomacy since the October 7 Hamas attack.
Hamas submitted its reply to the multi-phased ceasefire and hostage release proposal to mediators on Tuesday. According to a senior State Department official, Blinken, who was in Amman at the time, dispatched two of the senior staff traveling with him to retrieve Hamas’ response from Egyptian Intelligence Chief Abbas Kamel, who was also in the Jordanian capital.
Izzat al-Rishq, a member of the Hamas political bureau, described their response as “responsible, serious and positive.”
