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Butler1000

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It’s a concept you can’t seem to grasp but racism is in the mind of the racist, it’s not a quality or property of the victims. It’s a projection on to victims by the racist.

Racism abounds everywhere. Races don’t exist. Scientific advances tells us that.

All racists are ill informed, by definition. I fear that’s the reason you can’t wrap your head around this.

“1. Racism can be defined in many ways. A broad, general definition is used here in order to have a common understanding of the concept. However, there is a problem in that the term 'racism' presupposes the existence of different races. Recital (6) of Directive 2000/43/EC (Racial Equality Directive) states that 'The European Union rejects theories which attempt to determine the existence of separate human races.'
2. According to the EU acquis, and specifically Art. 1 of the Council Framework Decision 2008/913/JHA, offences concerning racism and xenophobia are considered to be:
(a) publicly inciting to violence or hatred directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin;”

Definitions matter. Religion is not a race. Its religious discrimination. Just because someone wants to change a definition because they want to be a victim doesn't make them one.
 

Butler1000

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Islam originated amongst people that lived in the Middle East and spread throughout the world. This isn't new information.

And despite Islam and Judaism etc being religions, antisemitism and Islamophobia are forms of racism. I explained to you and you have already admitted to this.

If you now say Islamophobia is not racism, the you are saying antisemitism is not racist either and it follows that you are arguing that the Nazis were not racist. So you need to make up your mind about what it is that you are saying. So I ask you again. Are you saying the Nazis aren't racist?

And yes, there have been lots of colonial endeavours throughout time. Those colonial projects have subjected people to genocide and cruelty throughout history. So what?

Only one in the present moment is genociding the indigeneous people. That is Israel. Not Canada. Not the US. Not the Muslims. No one else, except Israel.
Its not. Are Scientologists a race?
 

Butler1000

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I ask you again. Are you saying Nazis are not racist?
Yes. They hated black people too. Also homophobic for hating Gays. Also religious discrimination for hating Jews.

They basically hated everything and everyone.

Just a big ol bag of hate, eugenics, supremacy. A perfect storm of everything humans can do that is wrong.

Now, what race are Scientologists. It I critique them, is it racist?
 

Butler1000

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So you are saying that the Nazis genociding 6M Jews in the holocaust is NOT racist? You do know that the Nazis had an elaborate racial theory and research and propaganda, right? See the hole you've dug for yourself?


The Holocaust is an event central to our understanding of western civilization, the nation state, modern bureaucratic society, and human nature. It was the premeditated mass murder of millions of innocent civilians. Driven by a racist ideology that regarded Jews as “parasitic vermin” worthy only of eradication, the Nazis implemented genocide on an unprecedented scale.
You've lost....no need to continue this.
 

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Definitions matter. Religion is not a race. Its religious discrimination. Just because someone wants to change a definition because they want to be a victim doesn't make them one.
No, all definitions of race are cultural.
That could be religion, language, skin colour (its not genetic) or just the culture within a border or area.
 

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Israel loves women so much they killed 15,000 Palestinian women.
Since you didn't disagree with my statement and changed the topic you agree that women in many Muslim countries are discriminated against compared to the men and those countries are practising apartheid.
 

shack

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'Ilk' is another racial term.
What you won't do is define what this 'ilk' is.
Geno, when it comes to you and your ilk, no explanation is required. If you actually DO need a definition your mind is further gone than I ever suspected.
 

shack

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You've lost....no need to continue this.
Good for you.

I've ended immediately some discussions with him, based on the old adage of never argue with an idiot. They'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Some of our debates have descended to the point of complete abandonment of logic where I dare not to venture.
 

shack

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Who is doing that, rich, who is starving Gaza?
Its not Hamas.
I see. Hamas is feeding them by stealing the humanitarian aid and food that is meant for the citizens. That's how they fill the people's bellies?
 

shack

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No, all definitions of race are cultural.
No, there are definite biological/genetic commonalities that are a major part of linking people to particular races.

So now you are a science denier when it suits your purposes. Have you ever heard of DNA?
 

Butler1000

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Good for you.

I've ended immediately some discussions with him, based on the old adage of never argue with an idiot. They'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Some of our debates have descended to the point of complete abandonment of logic where I dare not to venture.
When someone won't acknowledge the dictionary for defining the meaning of words it is really pointless.
 

shack

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When someone won't acknowledge the dictionary for defining the meaning of words it is really pointless.
A very valid reason for disengagement. At that point there is no valid argument.
 
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