Israel at war

Frankfooter

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But to you all Jews in Israel are are different. Just like Palestinians and Hamas...
Fixed your post so its not so idiotically wrong.

If you think the same of Palestinians you have to know that 70% of the dead are women and children.
You also have to know that Israel is starving all of Gaza and that 50% of Gaza are kids.

You know that and still support what you also know is genocide.

 

Valcazar

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a) It has nothing to do with me or Canada. Someone else's headache.
Who is President of the US affects Canada a fair amount.

b) 4 years of non-stop entertainment.
I don't think the US backsliding away from democracy is entertaining.

c) The democrats need a kick in the nut to teach them a lesson that their position on Palestine cost them the election.
That's not the lesson they will learn from this, for a number of reasons.
1) The Israel Palestine situation is not listed by most voters as the main reason for their vote.
2) If you lose to a team that is explicitly saying the problem is that you were too weak on your support of Israel, then the lesson learned is that "Be more supportive of Israel".
3) The next election will not be about what was going on in 2024, but what is going on in 2026. What the public thinks about the Israel Palestine issue then will be more influential than what the voters opaquely signalled in 2024.

Will some people draw the lesson "We should have been tougher on Israel"?
Sure.
But the idea that this is the obvious conclusion is ludicrous, because "what were the voters actually saying" is rarely clear.
Think about how many people still disagree about what drove voting shifts in 2016 and 2020? (And what lessons the GOP debated learning from losing in 2012 as well?)
 

shack

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You sound like you're MAGA.
More calls of 'fake news' for every person who reports on the genocide you keep pretending isn't happening.

There is almost no legit source you'll accept anymore.
You've proven to fake many reports and interpretations of other people's words. You get the same responses as the boy who cried wolf.
 

shack

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But to you all Jews in Israel are zionists..
As I've repeatedly said. Yet when I ask him to provide a number less than 100% he refuses. As such our interpretation of his words is correct. He has not refuted our estimate of 100%. He tacitly accepts it.
 

Frankfooter

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That's not the lesson they will learn from this, for a number of reasons.
1) The Israel Palestine situation is not listed by most voters as the main reason for their vote.
2) If you lose to a team that is explicitly saying the problem is that you were too weak on your support of Israel, then the lesson learned is that "Be more supportive of Israel".
3) The next election will not be about what was going on in 2024, but what is going on in 2026. What the public thinks about the Israel Palestine issue then will be more influential than what the voters opaquely signalled in 2024.

Will some people draw the lesson "We should have been tougher on Israel"?
Sure.
But the idea that this is the obvious conclusion is ludicrous, because "what were the voters actually saying" is rarely clear.
Think about how many people still disagree about what drove voting shifts in 2016 and 2020? (And what lessons the GOP debated learning from losing in 2012 as well?)
They are learning this lesson right now.
Democrats 'freaking out' over Joe Biden's chances in 2024 election
 
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Keep lying so you can maintain your status as hate-mongerer-in-chief.
I'm not lying, Nikki.
You keep trying to argue that all Jews are genocidal, hate spewing zionists.
I keep pointing out that there are lots of great Jews, groups like IJV Canada.
At the march a couple of days ago there were lots with 'not in my name' signs, they are warmly welcomed at the anti genocide marches.

You should take your walker and your Israeli flag and get outside and find out .


 
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