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Poll: Who gets your vote

If a federal election were held tomorrow who would get your vote

  • Pierre Pollievre's Conservative Party

    Votes: 41 67.2%
  • Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party

    Votes: 13 21.3%
  • Jagmeet Singh's New Democratic Party

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • Elizabeth May's Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maxime Bernier's People's Party

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

shane4

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I have a question about the Dental Plan. If elected as PM what will Pierre Poilievre's Conservative Party do with it?
 

Dutch Oven

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We cannot continue with the indefinite use of fossil fuels forever!!
Here's where we agree. I don't think fossil fuel is the power source of the future. For one thing, it's not efficient enough to get us to other planets and solar systems, and that is a necessary next step in our transportation needs. But neither is electricity (especially when inefficiently generated by wind or solar). However, fossil fuels are the best energy source we have at the moment for land or air transportation (and most water transportation).

A sensible person works with what they have until something better comes along, and it always does, unless you bankrupt yourself in the meantime on stupid developments (like wind and solar).
 

Frankfooter

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A sensible person works with what they have until something better comes along, and it always does, unless you bankrupt yourself in the meantime on stupid developments (like wind and solar).
Wind and solar are already cheaper.
 

omegaphallic

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How did this thread become about the Ontario provincial issue?

For the recorded I'd simply confiscate the 407 without compensation, 99 year contract was pure corruption and they've abused the fuck out of it. Ban them from sueing over it too and if they try and fight it, pull their business licience as well.

Those pieces of shit spent years trying to collect from my dad mother and they repeatedly scammed my father.

Anyways electorally the NDP may not do well federally, but Jagmeet has achieved more then any NDP leader since Ed Broadbent, maybe even Tommy Douglas.

1. National Free School Lunches
2. Dentalcare
3. The first beginning stage of Pharmacare
4. Funding For Affordible Housing (folks did not realize this was part of the agreement).
5. Reforms to antitrust legislation to prevent future monopolies.
6. And more I'd have to go look up the rest

Meanwhile Pierre has gotten *checks notes* nothing beyond some none binding motions passed with Jagmeet's help, then voted IN FAVOUR OF MORE TAXES on home heating (its true, Jagmeet backed Pierre on a motion calling for removing the carbon tax on home heating, but then voted in favour of keeping the HST on home heating when Jagmeet wanted to push to have it removed from home heating).

JT does almost nothing unless forced to by public anger and the NDP. If he doesn't want Pierre to win he should retire, he's the lightening rod for all the anger. Hopefully we can push the Liberals to elect someone who will support REAL electoral reform before the next election.

Jagmeet for all his flaws deserved to be the Prime Minister, he's worked hard and unlike Pierre he's actually earned it.

Which I suspect if the media did its job and actually reported on all his achievements most folks would agree with. Sadly its like with Merit Styles, the credit never seems to go where its deserved and earned, instead it gets handed over to a NEPO baby who doesn't deserve it.
 
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DesRicardo

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Anyways electorally the NDP may not do well federally, but Jagmeet has achieved more then any NDP leader since Ed Broadbent, maybe even Tommy Douglas.

1. National Free School Lunches
2. Dentalcare
3. The first beginning stage of Pharmacare
4. Funding For Affordible Housing (folks did not realize this was part of the agreement).
5. Reforms to antitrust legislation to prevent future monopolies.
6. And more I'd have to go look up the rest
Whoa whoa, wait a minute here. Most of these policies are hollow and were only implemented to stop the NDP from forcing an election.

1. This most likely will be axed in 2 years.
2. A hollow plan that most dentists haven't and will not signed up for.
3. This fell way short from what they promised.
4. It was actually Poilievre that got this going. Justin had to address this or he would have been done.
5. More hollow policies that don't do or change anything.
6. The only thing missing is being Justin's tool. That he accomplished 100%

You can't say Poilievre isn't working hard. Pressing Trudeau is what got him off his ass.

Look how long the Liberal-NDP coalition has been going on and nothing got done.
 
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bver_hunter

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Here's where we agree. I don't think fossil fuel is the power source of the future. For one thing, it's not efficient enough to get us to other planets and solar systems, and that is a necessary next step in our transportation needs. But neither is electricity (especially when inefficiently generated by wind or solar). However, fossil fuels are the best energy source we have at the moment for land or air transportation (and most water transportation).

A sensible person works with what they have until something better comes along, and it always does, unless you bankrupt yourself in the meantime on stupid developments (like wind and solar).
If Wind and Solar are useless better inform The Ford Government ASAP about it:

 
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Frankfooter

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Whoa whoa, wait a minute here. Most of these are hollow and where only implement to stop the NDP to force an election.

1. This is most likely be axed in 2 years.
2. A hollow plan that most dentist haven't and will not signed up for.
3. This fell way short from what they promised.
4. It was actually Poilievre that got this going. Justin had address this or he would have been done.
5. More hollow policies that don't do or change anything.
6. The only thing missing is being Justin's tool. That he accomplished 100%

You can't say Poilievre isn't working hard. Pressing Trudeau is what has gotten him off his ass.

Look how long the Liberal-NDP coalition has been going on and nothing got done.
Maybe, but campaigning on cutting cheap daycare, dental, drug coverage and taxes on the rich will be a hard sell.
 

JohnLarue

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Jan 19, 2005
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How did this thread become about the Ontario provincial issue?

For the recorded I'd simply confiscate the 407 without compensation, .
for the record you would also kiss good bye any future private investment in the province

Jagmeet for all his flaws deserved to be the Prime Minister, he's worked hard and unlike Pierre he's actually earned it.
he has placed locking in his MPs pension ahead of the interests of Canadians by supporting the corrupt liberals
Jagmeet has not earned diddy squat, but he will get paid

Which I suspect if the media did its job and actually reported on all his achievements most folks would agree with. Sadly its like with Merit Styles, the credit never seems to go where its deserved and earned, instead it gets handed over to a NEPO baby who doesn't deserve it.

too funny
if your hero Jagmeet had any guts , we would have had the election to remove the corrupt trust fund moron from the PMs office
that might have earned him some respect.

instead he thinks he is extorting the corrupt trust fund moron into spending more taxpayers money , which he already does

the question now is which party is going to lose offical party status the NDP or the liberals
House of Commons: minimum 12 seats:

why your lot punted Tom Mulcair for deadmeat is a bewilderment
 

DesRicardo

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So what are Poilievre's Policies?
Off the top of my head.
1. Tougher on crime and harder sentences.
2. Shrinking the size of government to lower the budget.
3. Aggressively target inflation.
4. Axing the Carbon tax. Invest in green technology.
5. Working with all levels of government to build homes.
6. Probably will lower immigration back to controllable levels.
 

Frankfooter

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Apr 10, 2015
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Off the top of my head.
1. Tougher on crime and harder sentences.
2. Shrinking the size of government to lower the budget.
3. Aggressively target inflation.
4. Axing the Carbon tax. Invest in green technology.
5. Working with all levels of government to build homes.
6. Probably will lower immigration back to controllable levels.
You're making that up, he hasn't announced any of that.
 

Skoob

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You were just destroyed by bvr filling out your argument to show how much cheaper transit is and now you're trying to argue you can't include all auto costs when you calculate auto costs?



You did prove the existence of skoobitity.
Ummmm not quite despite your knack for failing miserably at following an argument or logic for that matter.
You forgot to factor in time and the fact that someone is bound to a train schedule. Time is money. Convenience is money.
Go Train can't get you to the specific location. It gets you to a general location bound to where the stations are located. How about additional fares?
What if you need to go to several places in a particular time span? More fares. More time.
What if you need to take extra passengers? Go Train doesn't have a 5-for-1 fare do they?

When you factor all of that in transit isn't always cheaper considering the constraints.
 

Skoob

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Hold on, we are now discussing about the Go Train costs. Did you forget that? You claimed that:



Hence, the need of a proper Public Transport Infrastructure like they have in Amsterdam and London, as a sizeable number of Toronto residents do not either own cars or can afford the costs of that daily commute by cars especially when using the 407ETR!!
Here's the same response I gave your buddy FF:


Ummmm not quite despite your knack for failing miserably at following an argument or logic for that matter.
You forgot to factor in time and the fact that someone is bound to a train schedule. Time is money. Convenience is money.
Go Train can't get you to the specific location. It gets you to a general location bound to where the stations are located. How about additional fares?
What if you need to go to several places in a particular time span? More fares. More time.
What if you need to take extra passengers? Go Train doesn't have a 5-for-1 fare do they?

When you factor all of that in transit isn't always cheaper considering the constraints.
 

JohnLarue

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I have a question about the Dental Plan. If elected as PM what will Pierre Poilievre's Conservative Party do with it?
if the Dental Plan going to costs hundreds of millions of taxpayers dollars to administer and less than 1% of the dentists are eager to participate, then he should scrap it

And according to the Nova Scotia Dental Association, a non-profit that represents more than 500 dentists in the province, nearly all of them have yet to do so. The association's president, Dr. Juli Waterbury, said Tuesday that only four dentists in the province had signed up.
obviously the dentists do not like the plan
a dental office will likely need to hire incremental staff to deal with the paperwork required by govt, without any incremental appointments/ revenue
can you say money pit?
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
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Ummmm not quite despite your knack for failing miserably at following an argument or logic for that matter.
You forgot to factor in time and the fact that someone is bound to a train schedule. Time is money. Convenience is money.
Go Train can't get you to the specific location. It gets you to a general location bound to where the stations are located. How about additional fares?
What if you need to go to several places in a particular time span? More fares. More time.
What if you need to take extra passengers? Go Train doesn't have a 5-for-1 fare do they?

When you factor all of that in transit isn't always cheaper considering the constraints.
You know what's way cheaper?
Living downtown and walking, biking or TTC.
 
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