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Poilievre backs banning trans women from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

Valcazar

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not everybody has your level of political sophistication

average voter is a fickle mistress

Conservatives already had two limp noodles as candidates (Scheer and O'Tool)

who tried to be all to all people

that didn't work

maybe a strong leader is what they need now

even if he comes across as a bigot
I get it.
It's a tactic they've seen work in the US and they think can work here.
It's cynical and ugly and I'm glad to see that you admit it is just about motivating people and manipulating those you think "unsophisticated".
But I don't like it and in the thread about what we expected if PP wins, this is what I said and what I was worried about.

And here we are.
 

JuanGoodman

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If you resist the current government, why are you focusing on this issue?
issue of "wokeness" is the foundation of the shit show we are in at present moment

It kind of gives the game away when you keep bringing something up and then claim it isn't your fault you keep doing that.
I have no idea what you mean

Exactly. It's just about getting votes by stoking outrage.
Drumming up divisive identity issues to try and get more votes instead of focusing on real problems is what I don't want to see happen here.
That kind of cynical bullshit doesn't lead anywhere good.
will this be your first election?

this method has been always used in pretty well every election

to get the votes

See, there you go.
This is exactly the cynical US style bullshit I was afraid of.
why is my opinion bullshit?
 

JuanGoodman

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I get it.
It's a tactic they've seen work in the US and they think can work here.
It's cynical and ugly and I'm glad to see that you admit it is just about motivating people and manipulating those you think "unsophisticated".
But I don't like it and in the thread about what we expected if PP wins, this is what I said and what I was worried about.

And here we are.
why are you worried?

what do you think will happen?
 

Mr.Gr33k

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@Valcazar at the moment, the issue of transgenders in women's sport, dressingrooms and bathrooms doesn't affect a lot of people. However, it is a very big problem at the core. We, as society, are enabling mental disorder by putting biological women in a compromised situation. Cancel culture is very strong today and majority of people with jobs/businesses are afraid to speak out because of potential harm it may cause. Our freedoms, rights and democracy are being put to the test.

Every single epidemic or an outbrake started with a single case, then spread out. If we do not act, we will be overwhelmed down the road. Trans people and LQBT members are people and have just as many rights or more than the rest of us. They, however, cannot infringe on the rights of the rest to get ahead.

Sensible government should've been on the case long ago. Thankfully, the measures many governments, states and provinces are taking, finally catching up to the big issue.
 
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Valcazar

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@Valcazar at the moment, the issue of transgenders in women's sport, dressingrooms and bathrooms doesn't affect a lot of people. However, it is a very big problem at the core. We, as society, are enabling mental disorder by putting biological women in a compromised situation. Cancel culture is very strong today and majority of people with jobs/businesses are afraid to speak out because of potential harm it may cause. Our freedoms, rights and democracy are being put to the test.

Every single epidemic or an outbrake started with a single case, then spread out. If we do not act, we will be overwhelmed down the road. Trans people and LQBT members are people and have just as many rights or more than the rest of us. They, however, cannot infringe on the rights of the rest to get ahead.

Sensible government should've been on the case long ago. Thankfully, the measures many governments, states and provinces are taking, finally catching up to the big issue.

Well, you're clearly a lost cause on this and have bought the identity politics hook, line, and sinker.
 
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If this is true, you should be willing to have sex with a transgender SP, as long as she identities as a woman. Genitals don't matter.
Who says he isn't? He won't explicitly confirm or deny his attraction to them. 😐
 

JuanGoodman

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Politics will get uglier, more divisive, and nastier.
Like what has happened in the US, where this tactic has been thoroughly adopted.
politics is always ugly and divisive

it's left against right

everywhere not only US

the problem is that once the politician gets his or her vote

they just forget about all the promises and go about their business of enriching himself or herself and their friends
 

JuanGoodman

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Your arguments resemble this:
I agree, you brought up really good points and he dismissed them all with one phrase

that's what the woke politicians are doing too

so no wander that they are surprised at the level of backlash they are getting
 
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Mr.Gr33k

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The percentage of young people who identify as trans or non-binary in Canada is increasing at an alarming rate. This is a huge indoctrination problem!!!

I know a couple who's youngest son was accepted to a university about 2-3 years ago. Now, they have a daughter! Hormone therapy etc. This is real!

I'd love to share some statistics year by year, but can't find anything recent. Stats only go as far as 2021 and even those numbers are alarming. In Canada, over 100K trans and non-binary people in 2021 as per Stats Canada. I'm certain those numbers are much higher or else how can you have 5 trans players among 2 volleyball teams??
 

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Today's right wing politics is all about the culture wars. It is about demonizing immigrants, non white people, intellectuals, LGBTQ people etc., in a desperate bid to return to "normalcy" - which righties think, that they can define for everybody else.
The righties didn't demonize them. The woke left created issues that demonized those with different opinions. Immigration is not a problem but illegal immigration and mass migration is. The woke left politics demonize straight white people and speaking about intellects anyone with a different opinion on the covid narrative was censored and silenced. And just for the record the real gays and lesbians hate the LGBTQ community more than the righties do. Therw ouldn't be a culture had the wokies not created them.
 

Mr.Gr33k

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When Kathlyn Wynn was an Ontario Premier, they introduced new sex education in middle schools. Kids now got to learn about straight and gay sex, anal play etc. Wynn's assistant who helped develop sex ed was later arrested and charged with pedophilia by the way.

When kids graduate, they go to colleges/universities where they're now taught they can be whatever sex they want.

This is systematic. Some people don't have the capacity to see the issue. They need to see 1 peace of puzzle at a time with instructions on what that puzzle represents and what to believe.
 

JuanGoodman

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When Kathlyn Wynn was an Ontario Premier, they introduced new sex education in middle schools. Kids now got to learn about straight and gay sex, anal play etc. Wynn's assistant who helped develop sex ed was later arrested and charged with pedophilia by the way.

When kids graduate, they go to colleges/universities where they're now taught they can be whatever sex they want.

This is systematic. Some people don't have the capacity to see the issue. They need to see 1 peace of puzzle at a time with instructions on what that puzzle represents and what to believe.
add to this today's cancel culture

"sunny days my friends, sunny days"
 
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