Poilievre backs banning trans women from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

[JuanGoodman]

Because a lot of those are not opinions. They are either conspiracy theories, advocacy for oppression or straight up misinformation.

For example, what is mass immigration? How do you define it? In Canada, there is a certain target set for each year, and IRCC meets those targets. So how is meeting a target mass immigration? Righties also attribute rape, crime etc., to immigrants in a bid to demonize them as unwanted people.

Similarly, with COVID, even after the nations health agency, which is responsible for public health makes a recommendation, the righties rely on bogus science they heard on Joe Rogan. That is again not an opinion, that is pushing conspiracy theories and misinformation.

Same with LGBTQ people. Rightie "opinions" on this, is about FORCING people and not allowing them to participate equally in society. Case in point, making a big fucking deal about someone using a bathroom or a change room - the very topic of this thread.

Previously, people used to put up and shut up about it. Today they are no longer going to. Good for them. Straight, white people are not the only ones that matter. And it is precisely for the reasons you brought up "straight white people", in your argument, that rightie politics is just white identity politics. Basically, whatever you accuse the woke left of, is what the righties are doing.

Do you understand how unhinged you sound?

1. What is wrong if kids are taught about straight sex, gay sex and safe anal play? Are you really opposing sex ed on anal play, while naming yourself Mr. Greek on an escort review board?
2. I did not find any article or evidence of Wynn's assistant being charged with pedophilia. But even if that person was, what does that have to do with sex education? Do you think Wynn and her assistant sit at a coffee table to draft up sex ed, or do you think they employ experts to do it?
3. What is wrong if kids are taught in college that gender identity is fluid?

So basically, you want to suppress conversation, so things conform to YOUR IDEA OF WHAT IS NORMAL. This is actually oppressive. This is why righties fail. You can kick, scream, throw a tantrum, yell, shout, march and do whatever you want. The fundamental lack of logic and reasonableness in what you are attempting to push, is why righties lose over and over again. And will continue to do so.

you drive a hard bargain K.

I understand how negotiations work

you go high I go low

we can give you "men can get pregnant" and "woman can have a dick" we will even throw in "men need tampons"

but we are not caving in on Poilievre backs banning trans women from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

 

[JuanGoodman]

Doesn't mean he is going to accomplish anything.

doesn't mean he isn't either

 

[Mr.Gr33k]

@Kautilya I'd like to take a guess here:

You're in your 20's or early 30's, single, never married, no kids. Your parents were very conservative, so now you're rebelling. You have a 9-5 job.

So far so good??

 

[Luna Soleil69]

I do have issues with some trans people like competing in sports when biologically there made stronger and faster.I think when felt strongly against it was when ytansgender were going BOX against other women. Now i feel they candles and get operations and do what they like.Except i believe there needs to be only trans category for sports to compete against the same not other genders.IMO. I did have a trans women who looked like a guy come into my washroom and he peeked over the wall to ask for toilet paper as far as i was concerned he was a fuckin idiot women dont do that this bullshit because there different doesnt mean thre above the law and ive read alot on transgendered they sexually assault women in higher numbers for there group.

 

[JuanGoodman]

PP will say anything to win an election.

just like any other politician out there

 

[Mr.Gr33k]

You'd be better off not trusting that a politician is going to accomplish everything he says he will, than the other way around. PP will say anything to win an election.

Well, I wish I was in my 20s or 30s lol. Single, yes. Not so accurate on the rest. Profiling is not going to help you because I could profile you as a 55+ white guy, who grew up in a white christian neighbourhood, in a small town, but that flatly ignores someone's development over the years that has led them to form the opinions that they have.

Ahh!!! I'm onto something

Still living in your parent's basement? Momma cooking Rogan Josh for lunch?

 

[The Oracle]

Lemme guess you are a 55+ year old, white guy, divorced or in a sexless marriage, pissed off at the world, immigrants and LGBTQ people who you think are holding you and other good, clean, god fearing, Republican white folk back and without whom you reckon you'd have been a multi-millionaire, and are therefore venting on TERB. Would you like me to buy you a Tikki torch?

I'm confused here aren't you over 50 yourself?

 

[The Oracle]

No, lol. I am not THAT old either. Am 40 lol.

So given what you have said on here about your health and all the meds that you take at such a young age.

Do you think it's correct to try to demean others as to why they are on here?

 

[The Oracle]

Where have I demeaned anyone's health or well being on here?

And my health issues aren't that serious either. It's fairly common and managed easily. I am actually very healthy and in shape lol.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1761808458725179613

 

[DesRicardo]

So you gotta have the same gender identity inside and outside that change room. Do you see transwomen, having a different gender identity outside the change room? No. If you claim to have a gender identity, just to get into a women's bathroom or a change room, then you are lying, and that makes you a creep.

Once again, you are burying yourself in every post by saying unintelligent things that you think are clever. They are not. But that is on you and how you wish to present yourself to everyone else.

Well that's not fair. My gender identity(s) is/are as valid as any other and my gender expression shouldn't be discriminated against.

This sounds like discrimination to me, buddy. Why do you think it's ok for you to be so bigoted and intolerant?

 

[richaceg]

Lemme guess you are a 55+ year old, white guy, divorced or in a sexless marriage, pissed off at the world, immigrants and LGBTQ people who you think are holding you and other good, clean, god fearing, Republican white folk back and without whom you reckon you'd have been a multi-millionaire, and are therefore venting on TERB. Would you like me to buy you a Tikki torch?

Is it just me or this statement sounds racist to me...and no I'm not White. I'm a 39 yr old Asian....You should look in the mirror when saying this out loud and see how proud you are of yourself....LoL

 

[DesRicardo]

I am intolerant towards creeps who in an attempt to get into women's change rooms, assume an identity just for that moment, which is what you are proposing. Transwomen aren't doing that, they are transwomen always. So tell me, are a transwoman always?

I don't think that's right. What if I just feel comfortable being a man in an open public area, but in private spaces like a change room I'm more comfortable as a woman? Why would you attack and discriminate the trans community like that?

 

[DesRicardo]

So you are not a transwoman. There you go, you answered it yourself.

Why do you feel the need to mis-gender me? I don't think that's right. When I'm at Goodlife Fitness I feel like a woman. Why are you discriminating against me?

 

[DesRicardo]

Why are you blaming me for something you did?

Because you are mis-gendering me.

Gender fluidity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I've explained the situation in full, but you continue to be bigoted towards me. Why do you think it's ok for you to hate a gender fluid person?

 

[richaceg]

I know you are Asian. Finally, look someone in my age group! lol. I thought you said you were 59 though. I am super proud because it is not racist at all. The guy profiled me, so I profiled him back. lol.

Well bro, I didn't know if that's how it works....I wouldn't know people race based on what they believe in...

 

[DesRicardo]

You said:

You also said, you pretend to be trans, because you want to assault women in their locker rooms, which is illegal. That is criminal intent, not gender fluidity. So am not discriminating against you.

I'm gender fluid. I explained it to you clearly.

I don't think that's right. What if I just feel comfortable being a man in an open public area, but in private spaces like a change room I'm more comfortable as a woman? Why would you attack and discriminate the trans community like that?

If someone is trans, or non-binary, or gender fluid, I support it, but I will not support criminal intent to sexually assault anybody, that you have openly displayed here multiple times.

Why do you continuously misquote me or accuse trans people of committing sexual assault? You're not unethical are you?

 

[DesRicardo]

But you admitted you are not gender fluid by saying that you only pretend to be trans, in order to gain access to women's change rooms, so you could sexually assault or otherwise misbehave with women. That is not gender fluidity. That is criminal intent. You also backed out of your earlier claim that you were trans and said, that you are a man. I did not do anything here, you did it yourself. So blame yourself for having unethical intentions, not someone who is just hearing you out.

Well now you're contradicting yourself here. You tried to misquote me saying I was just a man, but now you admit I did say I identify as a woman at times. Then you have falsely claimed I assault people. I mean, wouldn't that be pretty unethical?

What if a cisgender man lives his life as a man, but on the weekends he books a hotel room with an escort and for 2 hours he tries on women's clothing and requests to be called Sharon? No sex is involved, just female activities.Then after, he tells the escort thank you and goes back to being Kautilya? So why are you discriminating? You can't gate-keep Gender expression.

 

[dvous11]

Being gender fluid and “pretending” are the same thing.

 

[Frankfooter]

Being gender fluid and “pretending” are the same thing.

But pretending so you can creep washrooms isn't.

 

[DesRicardo]

You claimed all those things. I did not. You first said you were trans and then walked it back out of shame saying you pretend to be trans when you go into the women's bathroom or change rooms because you want to engage in illegal activities. When called out you googled up gender fluid even though that further discredited you because pretending to be trans to sexually assault or ogle or do whatever creepy stuff is basically criminal intent and not gender expression. Now you are here trying to defend yourself. Sorry this is your own doing. As I mentioned before you shot yourself in the dick on this one.

But now you're just lying. My full statement is below, I'm gender fluid. Why would you lie like that? And now you're talking about me getting shot in the dick. Are you always this aggressive and threatening towards trans people?

I don't think that's right. What if I just feel comfortable being a man in an open public area, but in private spaces like a change room I'm more comfortable as a woman? Why would you attack and discriminate the trans community like that?