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shack

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Colonial movements don't get to use that word.
Instead, we can use the word WINNERS in the fight against terrorists.

But this link from Rich reinforces that Hamas is losing on the battlefield, in the courts and especially in the halls of power. The world hates terrorists.
 

Frankfooter

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Instead, we can use the word WINNERS in the fight against terrorists.

But this link from Rich reinforces that Hamas is losing on the battlefield, in the courts and especially in the halls of power. The world hates terrorists.
Wow, Israel can beat a concentration camp filled with refugees, with no army, no airforce, no heavy weapons by killing mostly women and children.
So powerful.

You are winning like South Africa in the 1970's.
You are winning like Germany in 1944.

Israel will go on trial for genocide.
You will be forever known as a supporter of genocide.



 

Valcazar

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Surviving the next election?
Right wing ideologues aren't going to change their mind to survive the next election.
They would have to be voted out to make this deal.
But them being voted out means the whole "let's persecute the war in this bloodthirsty manner" becomes moot because they would have already been removed.

The West is unlikely to force Israel to do anything. Israel is an ally of the US and 7 October makes Israel look reasonable and ethical compared to Hamas and the other Arab militias.
Then why are you positing that Israel would have to moderate if you firmly believe that no one in the West or Israel wants to moderate?

This just feels like you wishcasting a result where everyone makes happy and nice magically.
You're whole argument seems to be "everyone will be voted out and then when completely different people are there they will take a completely different strategy".
Which doesn't seem like it deals much with what is actually happening now.
 
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mandrill

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Right wing ideologues aren't going to change their mind to survive the next election.
They would have to be voted out to make this deal.
But them being voted out means the whole "let's persecute the war in this bloodthirsty manner" becomes moot because they would have already been removed.
My understanding is that Bibi's government is already extremely unpopular.

I don't think the war is being "persecuted in a bloodthirsty manner". I think the war is being persecuted in the only way it can be if Hamas is going to be removed. I also think that Labour will persecute the war in the same way. My issue is the nutty extremist rhetoric from Bibi's cabinet and the suggestion that the Israelis might start to settle Gaza.

Then why are you positing that Israel would have to moderate if you firmly believe that no one in the West or Israel wants to moderate?

This just feels like you wishcasting a result where everyone makes happy and nice magically.
You're whole argument seems to be "everyone will be voted out and then when completely different people are there they will take a completely different strategy".
Which doesn't seem like it deals much with what is actually happening now.
See above.
 

Frankfooter

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My understanding is that Bibi's government is already extremely unpopular.

I don't think the war is being "persecuted in a bloodthirsty manner". I think the war is being persecuted in the only way it can be if Hamas is going to be removed. I also think that Labour will persecute the war in the same way. My issue is the nutty extremist rhetoric from Bibi's cabinet and the suggestion that the Israelis might start to settle Gaza.


See above.
Nobody thinks Hamas can be removed, its just Netanyahu's justification for continuing the genocide.
There are 100,000 dead, injured and missing.
70% of them are women and children.
1/5 of the hostages have been killed by Israeli bombings.

Estimates are that 80% of Hamas is still fighting.

Netanyahu is barely hanging on, his people hate him, his government hates and without the war he's done.
Biden has killed his reelection changes.
The ICJ ruling means the sanctions against Israel will multiply.


 

shack

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Wow, Israel can beat a concentration camp filled with refugees, with no army, no airforce, no heavy weapons by killing mostly women and children.
So powerful.
Do you know how stupid you sound saying that? You just admitted that Hamas is fighting a war that they cannot possibly win. All that they are doing is leading the Gazans to the slaughter which was an inevitability from the very start.

So stupid of Hamas to attack on Oct.7, in that case. Don't you agree?

If Hamas had surrendered on Jan.1 how many fewer Gazans would have died. You are an accomplice in those deaths. You are supporting the genocide of Palestinians by Hamas.
How old are those pics? What war did they come from? What country?

I need to ask because you've already admitted that you've posted pics that are years old trying to pass them off as current. As such, nobody can accept the pics you post at face value. That is the reputation that you have created for yourself.

Have you ever lied in the Politics Forum on TERB? Refusal to answer (AKA hiding under covers) is an admission that you have lied. Only guilty people plead the 5th.
 

shack

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Nobody thinks Hamas can be removed, its just Netanyahu's justification for continuing the genocide.
Huh? You just admitted that Hamas is fighting a war that they cannot win. How can they possibly survive?

Frankfooter said:
Wow, Israel can beat a concentration camp filled with refugees, with no army, no airforce, no heavy weapons by killing mostly women and children.
So powerful.


There are 100,000 dead, injured and missing.
70% of them are women and children.
1/5 of the hostages have been killed by Israeli bombings.
How many since Jan.1? They were all avoidable if Hamas had simply surrendered in a conflict that they cannot win.
Netanyahu is barely hanging on, his people hate him, his government hates and without the war he's done.
What is the point of this post? I think that there are very few here, if any, who want him to remain once the war is over. You are reinforcing our hopes.
 

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6 year old Palestinian girl trapped in car with dead relatives now missing, along with rescuers sent to save her.

 

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Doctor treats child shot in back by IDF in Khan Younis.

 
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