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Frankfooter

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So does boycotting Starbucks work? 😂
Yes, their sales are down.
Boycotts and sanctions ended apartheid in South Africa.
After the ICJ all countries will not be legally allowed to sell Israel weapons.

Israel's only hope is that the US vetoes an ICJ ruling, but that trial won't happen before Biden is out of office.
 

Leimonis

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I wonder how many lives would have been saved if Hamas had surrendered a month ago instead of perpetuating a campaign that they have no chance of winning.

You can be sure that frank doesn't bother wondering about that. He supports as many Palestinian deaths as possible so it can be used for propaganda. He, along with Hamas, considers the Palis worthless pawns. They are simply lesser humans. At least he's consistent in his message.
naivete and idealism is definitely through the roof. I think this is actually why team hamas is underrepresented here - because most people on this board are pragmatic and understand simple things, such as:
1.according to the polls Palis can't be happy until Israel exists. Too many of them are radicalized, and they have been engaging in killing Israeli civilians for decades via bombings, stabbings, rockets etc.
2. Eliminating Israel "occupation" from the river to the sea (as they would like) would inevitably lead to ethnic cleansing of insane proportions and likely to a genocide. So Israel is hanging on thinking about day-to-day solutions rather than childish dreams about bright future in which wolves and sheep live happily together, as they cannot afford idealism while dealing with terror.
 

Frankfooter

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naivete and idealism is definitely through the roof. I think this is actually why team hamas is underrepresented here - because most people on this board are pragmatic and understand simple things, such as:
1.according to the polls Palis can't be happy until Israel exists. Too many of them are radicalized, and they have been engaging in killing Israeli civilians for decades via bombings, stabbings, rockets etc.
2. Eliminating Israel "occupation" from the river to the sea (as they would like) would inevitably lead to ethnic cleansing of insane proportions and likely to a genocide. So Israel is hanging on thinking about day-to-day solutions rather than childish dreams about bright future in which wolves and sheep live happily together, as they cannot afford idealism while dealing with terror.
So you think you have to genocide away because you think the occupation has made Palestinians too mad?
 

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shack

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Colonial movements don't get to use that word.
Instead, we can use the word WINNERS in the fight against terrorists.

But this link from Rich reinforces that Hamas is losing on the battlefield, in the courts and especially in the halls of power. The world hates terrorists.
 

Frankfooter

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Instead, we can use the word WINNERS in the fight against terrorists.

But this link from Rich reinforces that Hamas is losing on the battlefield, in the courts and especially in the halls of power. The world hates terrorists.
Wow, Israel can beat a concentration camp filled with refugees, with no army, no airforce, no heavy weapons by killing mostly women and children.
So powerful.

You are winning like South Africa in the 1970's.
You are winning like Germany in 1944.

Israel will go on trial for genocide.
You will be forever known as a supporter of genocide.



 

Valcazar

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Surviving the next election?
Right wing ideologues aren't going to change their mind to survive the next election.
They would have to be voted out to make this deal.
But them being voted out means the whole "let's persecute the war in this bloodthirsty manner" becomes moot because they would have already been removed.

The West is unlikely to force Israel to do anything. Israel is an ally of the US and 7 October makes Israel look reasonable and ethical compared to Hamas and the other Arab militias.
Then why are you positing that Israel would have to moderate if you firmly believe that no one in the West or Israel wants to moderate?

This just feels like you wishcasting a result where everyone makes happy and nice magically.
You're whole argument seems to be "everyone will be voted out and then when completely different people are there they will take a completely different strategy".
Which doesn't seem like it deals much with what is actually happening now.
 
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