Court has ruled Emergencies Act during Trucker convoy was unconstitutional

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So when I saw the fuel dumps on the street I knew it was time to ask about safety, especially when the idiots with butts in their mouths were standing nearby.

Add in the protest wasn't on govt property or in anyway impeded govt business. It did however take place on residential streets and in front of businesses just trying to open again.

And Sloly royally fucked up and let them get entrenched. At that point mob rules overtook reasonableness and the big guns had to be implemented.

I agree a major issue of freezing bank accounts needed to be addressed and that power curbed. The rest however was just about clearing streets. They didn't sent in the water cannons, truncheons or mass arrests(like the G20). And at least now there are better guidelines that can be used in the future.
But the PM himself as well as the premier and other Liberal MPs are on record as saying it was organized by a far right movement trying to overthrow the government which it clearly wasn't
 

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But the PM himself as well as the premier and other Liberal MPs are on record as saying it was organized by a far right movement trying to overthrow the government which it clearly wasn't
It started as a legit grassroots. But the so called leaders who set up the go fund me were in fact a combination of grifters and were looking at forming a new Western Right wing party. The money was going to be siphoned off for personal use and to do that, not for the Truckers.

I agree the Liberals hyperbole was stupid and pandering to their own myopic base. Thats what politicians do. And lets face it, some of the yahoos at the protest were using that language. I saw it live.

The whole thing was an unneeded cluster fuck as lockdowns were basically over. But there were idiots on both sides. And I agree Trudeau was one of them. As was Sloly. And several of the protesters. No one was in the right here imo.
 

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It started as a legit grassroots. But the so called leaders who set up the go fund me were in fact a combination of grifters and were looking at forming a new Western Right wing party. The money was going to be siphoned off for personal use and to do that, not for the Truckers.

I agree the Liberals hyperbole was stupid and pandering to their own myopic base. Thats what politicians do. And lets face it, some of the yahoos at the orotest were using that language. I saw it live.

The whole thing was an unneeded cluster fuck as lockdowns were basically over.
I would suggest had they packed up and left a little earlier. Message delivered. Had the politicians handled it differently rather than their usual rhetoric, and fear mongering and profiling. Say as with Greta..Given them the time of day. They are shitty jobs but someone has to do them. And they were thrown under the bus saving everyone else’s asses.

I also tend to think they fell victim to just how large the ground swell grew. Probably didn’t expect it to be as popular and big as it was.

For the time being a federal judge has settled those debates
 
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It started as a legit grassroots. But the so called leaders who set up the go fund me were in fact a combination of grifters and were looking at forming a new Western Right wing party. The money was going to be siphoned off for personal use and to do that, not for the Truckers.
But does forming a party make you a terrorist or anti government radical. And what does far right or even far left mean anyway. Just cause I disagree with a lot that has been done by our politicians during this scamdemic doesn't make me a far right wing lunatic.
 

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But does forming a party make you a terrorist or anti government radical. And what does far right or even far left mean anyway. Just cause I disagree with a lot that has been done by our politicians during this scamdemic doesn't make me a far right wing lunatic.
Of course not. But as I noted stockpiling fuel illegally on public streets does make you public danger. Especially with kids running around and refusal to remove it.

Now imagine if you saw Muslims doing it over Israel. Are you going to support it?
 

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But there were idiots on both sides. And I agree Trudeau was one of them. As was Sloly. And several of the protesters. No one was in the right here imo.
Don't forget the idiot that was ski-dooing and burying his head in the snowbank for 2 weeks.

He only was prompted to act when his constituents, private corporations, started complaining that the Ambassador Bridge freedumb convoy nutjobs were impacting their business. He rose to action there like a corporate puppet that he is to shut down the blockade, while still turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the freedumb carnage in Ottawa.

Ottawa, a creature of the province, where the province has ultimate and sole jurisdiction over, including the police and other levers of provincial gov't at his disposal to deal with the freedumb nutjobs.

Why you have such adoration and fealty for the Ford nutjob brothers certainly is a world leading, pretzel twisting feat of incomprehensibility.
 
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Don't forget the idiot that was ski-dooing and burying his head in the snowbank for 2 weeks.

He only was prompted to act when his constituents, private corporations, started complaining that the Ambassador Bridge freedumb convoy nutjobs were impacting their business. He rose to action there like a corporate puppet that he is to shut down the blockade, while still turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the freedumb carnage in Ottawa.

Ottawa, a creature of the province, where the province has ultimate and sole jurisdiction over, including the police and other levers of provincial gov't at his disposal to deal with the freedumb nutjobs.

Why you have adoration for Ford nutjob brothers certainly is a world leading, pretzel twisting feat of incomprehensibility.
Atleast he paid for his own vacation and wasn’t at $10k/day spa. Nor was he shitting on the constitution with head up his arse ignoring the people you all threw overboard to save your sorry asses.

is that too hard for you to grasp? And you wonder why PP is going to steamroll right over him, and you. Cause and effect not Liberal strong suits
 
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He is asking, as best you might to compare relative populations. And while lockdowns may have been effective. What did you do for the small business owners or those that lost jobs or significant meagre savings.. Other than “we are all in same boat and will one day make it to shore”

But please no body look at or remember those we threw overboard and sacrificed to save ourselves. And as best you might….do keep in mind, the demographics thrown overboard.

I’ll say this much. At least during WWWii all Canadians volunteered they weren’t just thrown overboard. Those that sacrificed and those that bought war bonds.
The fact is that the infection and death ratios were around twice as compared to the whole of Canada. Well those are the ones that Florida sacrificed just to keep the economy open!!
 

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Atleast he paid for his own vacation and wasn’t at $10k/day spa. Nor was he shitting on the constitution with head up his arse ignoring the people you all threw overboard to save your sorry asses.

is that too hard for you to grasp? And you wonder why PP is going to steamroll right over him, and you. Cause and effect not Liberal strong suits
You know what?

When I think about it through your very unique lens, you're right!

Doug was too preoccupied to "shit on the constitution because he was too busy:

1) Shitting all over the Greenbelt
2) Shitting all over Ontario Place
3) Shitting all over the OSC
4) Shitting all over LTC
5) Shitting all over Health Care
6) Shitting all over Education
7) Shitting all over Universities and Colleges
8) Shitting over nurses, doctors, teachers, public servants
9) Shitting all over regions, municipalities, towns, villages, burgs and hamlets
10) And yes, shitting all over the Constitution by using the "notwithstanding clause" willy-nilly and against public sector workers and then having the courts throw it right back in his face
 
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Of course not. But as I noted stockpiling fuel illegally on public streets does make you public danger. Especially with kids running around and refusal to remove it.

Now imagine if you saw Muslims doing it over Israel. Are you going to support it?
What's happening in the Middle East has been happening for decades. The Freedom Convoy was a one time thing with no history of violence.
 
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What's happening in the Middle East has been happening for decades. The Freedom Convoy was a one time thing with no history of violence.
I meant if Muslims showed up en masse to Ottawa, stayed for weeks to protest the official stance on the war, and were seen to be disrupting businesses, keeping residents up at all hours, and then stockpiles of fuel were being collected in the streets.

Would you say let them be?
 
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I meant if Muslims showed up en masse to Ottawa, stayed for weeks to protest the official stance on the war, and were seen to be disrupting businesses, keeping residents up at all hours, and then stockpiles of fuel were being collected in the streets.

Would you say let them be?
I've stated this before about them protesting. What they are protesting has nothing to do with this country. The truckers were protesting the restrictions and mandates that our government was imposing.
 

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You mean that were ENDING.
Do you think if Israel decides they’ve softened up or flattened gaza enough or put a big enough dent in Hamas that they can back off or agree to a ceasefire that will be the end of the protest? Should they?
 
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.As far as this topic goes, lol…
And no doubt all the privileged lefties here would be just perfectly fine with any cop that just puts hands on them…or cuffs on them without meeting the legal threshold to use force….and…infringed on their charter rights by seizing or freezing money/assets.

Some threads are funny.
but not
 
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Do you think if Israel decides they’ve softened up or flattened gaza enough or put a big enough dent in Hamas that they can back off or agree to a ceasefire that will be the end of the protest? Should they?
By ending I mean the lockdowns.

As For the war yes I do.
 
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