Israel at war

Frankfooter

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Was that attack worth the price that the Gazans have paid since?

You justify the attack. Israel's response is justified, legal and legit. Goose and gander.
If Trudeau's prediction is right than this will lead to the end of zionism and the 75 year occupation.
Is that worth 20-30,000 dead? I'd say no because there were multiple non genocidal ways that peace could have happened yet were blocked by Israel.

Trudeau says Israel’s Gaza campaign puts its own long-term safety at risk

Israel’s strongest friends “are becoming increasingly concerned that … the short-term actions being taken by Israel are actually putting at risk the long-term safety [of] and even support for a Jewish state into the future,” Trudeau told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Oh Phil…..your ADD is at it again. Israel doesn’t have Abrahm tanks and the clip does show destroyed Israeli tanks and bulldozers
I meant Merkava tanks, which also RPG's cant penetrate

the clip does show destroyed Israeli tanks and bulldozers
No it doesnt. It shows a couple of disabled tanks and bulldozers, but not destroyed.
A few lucky Hamas strikes were bound to happen.

Really, thats all you got??!! 😂
 

richaceg

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The purpose of the attack on Israel is not to invade Israel or win. There was no military objective except it was retaliation for settler violence. On the other hand, there was definitely a political objective to bring the world's focus back to the conflict, to disrupt the Israel-Saudi deal, to take hostages and get Palestinian prisoners released from prison and most importantly to disrupt the status quo and create a need for a 2 state solution (although in my opinion it will not happen).




Of course the Israelis do. They sit on the hills of Sderot and watch Gaza being bombed, while sipping tea and cheering and chanting "Baruch Hashem" or some shit like that.



That is what I said. Many of the explosions you see are the Trophy APS and the video Klatuu posted did have a damaged tank being towed away. Am sure that tank didn't blow up by itself. So yes, Hamas is unlikely to inflict significant damage on the Merkavas with their RPGs but the probability of damage isn't zero.
So the purpose is to attack Israel and not expect retaliation well...that escalated in huge proportion...they are really dumb then? Or they just don't care about Palestinians? Which is it? I'd say both....hamas leaders will ever set foot in Gaza....they gonna get lynched by the mob....
 

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So the purpose is to attack Israel and not expect retaliation well...that escalated in huge proportion...they are really dumb then? Or they just don't care about Palestinians? Which is it? I'd say both....hamas leaders will ever set foot in Gaza....they gonna get lynched by the mob....
You think Israel allowing 233 settler terrorist attacks and actively stealing land in the West Bank meant they didn't expect retaliation?
Are they that dumb?
 
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You're too afraid to answer.

Seeing as the price Palestinians are paying in relation to the Hamas attack, do you think that the attack was worth it?
Do you think getting a chance to kill 10,000 Palestinian children and starve 570,000 Palestinians is worth the end of zionism?
 
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Frankfooter

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Mark agitprop 😂 what a source


ag·it·prop
/ˈajətˌpräp/

noun
  1. political (originally communist) propaganda, especially in art or literature.
You mean like Kurt Weill? Great theatre tradition, buddy.

Here's the longer post directly from the WHO.
Read it and either do your own happy dance or realize what you've become.
I know which way you'll go.

 

Leimonis

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You mean like Kurt Weill? Great theatre tradition, buddy.

Here's the longer post directly from the WHO.
Read it and either do your own happy dance or realize what you've become.
I know which way you'll go.

I will try not to go the way of agitprop ahaha


Agitprop is short for agitatsiya propaganda, according to Encyclopedia Britannica. It's a two-pronged approach to political influence inspired by Marxist thinkers: The propaganda part, Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin described, pushes the social and political factors behind an idea; agitation, the encyclopedia said, is "the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby mold public opinion and mobilize public support."
 

Klatuu

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Only the winners get to write history. As such, you're wasting bandwidth.
Then the inescapable conclusion is that the tide is turning and a more accurate history is emerging and it’s not favorable to Israel.
 

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I will try not to go the way of agitprop ahaha


Agitprop is short for agitatsiya propaganda, according to Encyclopedia Britannica. It's a two-pronged approach to political influence inspired by Marxist thinkers: The propaganda part, Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin described, pushes the social and political factors behind an idea; agitation, the encyclopedia said, is "the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby mold public opinion and mobilize public support."
Agitprop is still a thing in theatre, film and tv.
The West Wing was agitprop.

Why am I not surprised that you went there instead of discussing whether its good or bad that 570,000 people in Gaza could starve to death?
 

Leimonis

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Agitprop is still a thing in theatre, film and tv.
The West Wing was agitprop.

Why am I not surprised that you went there instead of discussing whether its good or bad that 570,000 people in Gaza could starve to death?
I will pray to allah to stop hamas from taking civilians food
 
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