Strong words from Jerry Howarth.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseb...howarth-rips-rogers-for-ben-wagners-dismissal
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseb...howarth-rips-rogers-for-ben-wagners-dismissal
Blue Jays Off-Season Moves
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Whenever I think of Jerry Howarth, I always picture him saying “Steib works” or “Ward works…..swing an a miss he struck him ouuuut” or “Mosby rounding third….he scooores” on a hot summer day in my dad’s car, while my father eats from an open bag of sunflower seeds on the centre console. I’m pretty sure I saw advertisements for New Coke in the background too.
It feels like the whole free agent market is frozen until Ohtani signs somewhere.
Philip
Nice memories. I always think of his famous "...and there she gooooooes".
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I love that with his nasally voice. I think of summertime, 80s, Flemington Park…. where my grandmother and father lived. Off-topic, but they are planning on moving The Science Centre down to Ontario Place, That’s weird. I had my first date there with my first real girlfriend.
Philip
As far as I am aware Bo would not be permitted to have a trade clause in his contract.
1. He is not a 10/5 player who gets an automatic veto to any trade. A 10-5 player is any players with over 10 years of MLB experience, and 5 on that team.
2. He did not sign an extension that extended into his post-arbitration eligibility years which would have allowed him to negoti a no trade list. If his extension had went into 2026 he could have one. But since his extension ends in 2025 (which would be his last arbitration eligible year), he could not negotiate one.
Does anyone else get the feeling the Blue Jays are being used as a negotiating chip?
I don't think so. I don't think the Jays can be outbid, and I mean the guys going to get like 500 million so I don't know that his agent is pushing that agenda. I think the Toronto is a genuine attractable club for him, but I think he ultimately signs with the Dogers.
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I have gotten really wrapped up in this whole “Ohtani sweepstake.” Blue Jays Today, Jays Digest etc etc all these YouTube podcasts I watch, that’s all they talk about…. I think this type of signing would light a fire under Guerreros ass. That kind of thing I’m excited for. And then bring back Teoscar Hernandez along with a new hitting coach, and I’m good lol.
Philip
I think the hitting coach issue has been addressed. They fired Hudgens, the "hitting strategy coach" and given Mattingly a second role on top of bench coach, the "hitting or offensive? co-ordinator". At this point I don't think any of the other hitting coaches have been fired. If they do or don't I think it's Mattingly's call.
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I know they addeessed the hitting coach issue: Where is that Martinez guy now? Wasn’t he reassigned?
Philip
I think he's still here, but I think he'll need to embrace Mattingly's philosophy.
The latest rumour has it that the Jays are the leaders in the Juan Soto sweepstakes.
Blue Jays New Favorites to Land Juan Soto in Trade from Padres (msn.com)
Blue Jays New Favorites to Land Juan Soto in Trade from Padres (msn.com)
Yeah I mean I believe the Jays are making it a difficult decision for him, but I just can't see the Jays landing him.
This is a hard trade to pull off. Soto gets about 30 million in arbitration, and he isn't going to resign so he's a one year rent a player. Teams are hesitant to give up there big prospects these days for rent a players.
I honestly cannot see the Jays winning the Ohtani sweepstakes. Could the Jays afford to spend on him? Yes, but will they? Probably no. I feel like this (and the Soto trade rumours) are either being spread by the Jays to get the fanbase excited or forgiving for the unmitigated disaster of the post season, or by other execs/agents to build up the price for whomever wins the bidding for Ohtani or Soto...I'm very cynical about this. But, I would love to see the Jays actually win something like this. It would make a huge splash in the game!
