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Leimonis

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Palestinian civilians handed this russian guy back to Hamas. Looks like they're the same as hamas.

Israeli hostage briefly escaped Hamas before locals handed him back to terrorists: family

One of the recently released Hamas hostages had previously escaped imprisonment and survived for days in the rubble of Gaza before locals recaptured him, according to a report.

"He tried getting to the border. But he didn’t have the capacity to understand where he was or where he needed to go, so he couldn’t navigate through the open field," Ron Krivoi’s aunt, who spoke about his struggle during an appearance on KAN’s Reshet Bet radio on Monday morning.



Russian-Israeli Krivoi departed Gaza as part of the third group released as part of a cease-fire agreement between Israel and Hamas brokered through Qatar. Both parties agreed Tuesday to extend the cease-fire by two days, conditional on the release of more hostages.

The 25-year-old was working at the Supernova festival on Oct. 7 as a sound technician when Hamas terrorists attacked, according to The Times of Israel. Russian President Vladimir Putin had personally requested Hamas include Krivoi in the second wave of released hostages as part of a separate deal.

No they are just oppressed indigenous civilians who cannot be responsible for their actions as they are victims of occupation!
 

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No they are just oppressed indigenous civilians who cannot be responsible for their actions as they are victims of occupation!
How different is Israel?
For every hostage they let go they just pick up another.
80% of those released were never charged with anything.
 

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Hamas founder's son calls for Israel to kill his father if hostages not released
"Israel must not compromise," stressed the son of the Hamas co-founder.


Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef, called for Israel to set a time limit for Hamas to release the remaining hostages it is holding and to kill Hamas leaders, including his father, if they fail to do so, in a video posted on X on Tuesday.

"Hamas has been waging psychological warfare against humanity...They want to release thousands of mass murderers back to the street in return for the Israeli hostages. Israel cannot afford this, but also humanity cannot afford this, because the release of mass murderers means the death of many other innocent people," said Yousef.


"Israel must not compromise," stressed the son of the Hamas co-founder.

"I understand that Israel had to compromise in the past week or two in order to release children, women, elders, and defenseless civilians. The remaining hostages, especially soldiers, those who failed to defend themselves and defend the civilians in the southern communities when they were captured, should be treated as war prisoners and Israel must shift its priority from a hostage rescue mission to an offensive that focuses on eradicating Hamas."


Yousef warned that Hamas will attempt to stretch out negotiations indefinitely in order to avoid an end to the ceasefire.

Yousef pointed to the Hamas members being held in Israeli prisons, saying "Israel must use this card. This is the time when Israel needs to use Hamas savages in prison to pressure Hamas leadership everywhere to release the hostages."


"Israel cannot continue like this. Prisoners like Ibrahim Hamed and Abdullah Barghouti must be sentenced to death. Hamas must have a timeframe - a month or two or six months - to return the hostages and if they don't return the hostages within the time frame, Israel must execute top Hamas leaders in prison, especially the mass murderers."

"When I say execute top Hamas leaders, I mean no exceptions. That includes my own father, the co-founder of the Hamas movement. In this war, there are no exceptions," added Yousef. "I made a mistake, 10 or 15 years ago when I saved his life many times...He was supposed to die for his actions. I saved his life. Things did not change, things got worse."

"I give the Israeli government permission to execute all Hamas top leaders in prison before we go after them in Gaza and before we go after them in Qatar. Again, I make myself very clear, no exceptions for anyone."

"If this is what Hamas wants, the release of those mass murderers, then in my opinion this is the head of the snake," stressed Yousef. "The head of the snake at this moment isn't in Qatar or in Gaza, it's in the Israeli prisons. If Israel knows how to manage and play this card against Hamas, I guarantee you the return of all the hostages and the defeat of Hamas.

Son of Hamas co-founder calls on Israel to demand Qatar expel Hamas
Yousef additionally called for Qatar not to be used as a mediator as long as it allows Hamas leaders to remain in the country and for Israel to treat Qatar as an enemy state until Qatar kicks Hamas out.

Yousef called on Israel to demand that Qatar kick out Hamas within a month and to carry out assassinations in Qatar if they aren't kicked out.

The son of the Hamas co-founder added that, in Gaza, the IDF should concentrate on Hamas leaders and shouldn't feel under any pressure to complete its goals within a certain timeframe. He added that the IDF should be even more careful than it already is to avoid harming civilians at this stage.

Hamas founder's son calls on Israel to threaten to kill his father - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)
 

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Even worst, Hamas killed children too. Apparently they cut open a pregnant Jewish women, pulled out the baby and decapitated it.

Amazing, show me the proof.
Israeli propaganda is more Nazi than the Nazis.
Weren't Nazis saying that Jews used to use babies' blood for rituals? Is that true Conil?
 
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even al jazeera knows they are convicted criminals
calling them hostages is idiotic and disgustingly dishonest
Your article says they were women and children and the most common charge was throwing stones, which carries a 20 year sentence.
“The main alleged crime for these detentions is stone-throwing, which can carry a 20-year sentence in prison for Palestinian children,” said a report published in July by children’s rights organisation, Save the Children.

 
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Intelligence soldier's warning of invasion in July dismissed as 'imaginary' (msn.com)

Senior defense officials dismissed alerts ahead of October 7 massacre
The dismissed warnings of the NCOs and officers join additional reported warnings and alerts that were issued and ignored in the IDF and other arms of the defense establishment in the months leading up to the October 7 massacre.

In recent weeks, multiple reports have been published in Israeli media detailing how IDF lookouts operating along the Gaza border repeatedly warned their commanders that they had seen unusual activity near the border and that Hamas appeared to be planning a large attack.

The lookouts' concerns were dismissed and, according to N12, in at least one instance one of the lookouts went to a senior commander and was told "I don't want to hear again about this nonsense. If you all bother us again with these things, you'll be court-martialed."

Sounds about right from upper management.
 
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Intelligence soldier's warning of invasion in July dismissed as 'imaginary' (msn.com)

Senior defense officials dismissed alerts ahead of October 7 massacre
The dismissed warnings of the NCOs and officers join additional reported warnings and alerts that were issued and ignored in the IDF and other arms of the defense establishment in the months leading up to the October 7 massacre.

In recent weeks, multiple reports have been published in Israeli media detailing how IDF lookouts operating along the Gaza border repeatedly warned their commanders that they had seen unusual activity near the border and that Hamas appeared to be planning a large attack.

The lookouts' concerns were dismissed and, according to N12, in at least one instance one of the lookouts went to a senior commander and was told "I don't want to hear again about this nonsense. If you all bother us again with these things, you'll be court-martialed."

Sounds about right from upper management.
Sure it was dismissed by upper management...ceasefire was in place and Hamas broke it...and now we are here...
 

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Sure it was dismissed by upper management...ceasefire was in place and Hamas broke it...and now we are here...
What official ceasefire are you talking about?

There were 233 terrorist settler attacks before Oct in 2023.
This all started after settlers stormed the Al Aqsa, is that part of a ceasefire or just normal Israeli terrorism?

Was this before or after Operation Breaking Dawn?

Was this ceasefire after or before the 2021 attacks?
 

richaceg

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What official ceasefire are you talking about?

There were 233 terrorist settler attacks before Oct in 2023.
This all started after settlers stormed the Al Aqsa, is that part of a ceasefire or just normal Israeli terrorism?

Was this before or after Operation Breaking Dawn?

Was this ceasefire after or before the 2021 attacks?
What official ceasefire are you talking about?

There were 233 terrorist settler attacks before Oct in 2023.
This all started after settlers stormed the Al Aqsa, is that part of a ceasefire or just normal Israeli terrorism?

Was this before or after Operation Breaking Dawn?

Was this ceasefire after or before the 2021 attacks?
"Stormed" nice play on words...there was no "stormed"
The official ceasefire was decades ago and Hamas violated it multiple times....you know everytime they get their ass kicked...ceasefire resumes...until they thought they have enough rockets....they will never learn....just like you...
 
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No matter what the cause of death, he was taken against his will, put him in a stressful condition, exposed him in basically a war zone...brought to you by Hamas...
Which war zone is that?
The one created by IDF occupying Palestinian territories? Imposing embargos, cutting off electricity, water, medicine, bombing hospitals, medical vehicles, murdering journalists, that war zone?
 

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"Stormed" nice play on words...there was no "stormed"
The official ceasefire was decades ago and Hamas violated it multiple times....you know everytime they get their ass kicked...ceasefire resumes...until they thought they have enough rockets....they will never learn....just like you...
You are ridiculous.
The only side that has ever had a ceasefire in the last decade has been Hamas, and a voluntary one at that.
There were attacks in 2008, 2011, 2014, 2018, 2021 and 2022.

And 'stormed' is how it has been reported in the press multiple times.
Your denial is just so sad at this point.

Why don't we start by refreshing your memory with parts of Amnesty's 2022 report.

ISRAEL AND OCCUPIED PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES 2022
Israel’s continuing oppressive and discriminatory system of governing Palestinians in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) constituted a system of apartheid, and Israeli officials committed the crime of apartheid under international law. Israeli forces launched a three-day offensive on the occupied Gaza Strip in August during which they committed apparent war crimes. This compounded the impact of a 15-year ongoing Israeli blockade that amounts to illegal collective punishment and further fragments Palestinian territory. Israel escalated its crackdown on Palestinians’ freedom of association. It also imposed arbitrary restrictions on freedom of movement and closures that amounted to collective punishment, mainly in the northern West Bank, ostensibly in response to armed attacks by Palestinians on Israeli soldiers and settlers. The year saw a rise in the number of Palestinians unlawfully killed and seriously injured by Israeli forces during raids in the West Bank. Administrative detentions of Palestinians hit a 14-year high, and torture and other ill-treatment continued. Israeli forces demolished al-Araqib village in the Negev/Naqab for the 211th time. A further 35 Palestinian-Bedouin towns in Israel were still denied formal recognition and residents faced possible forcible transfer. Authorities failed to process asylum claims for thousands of asylum seekers, and imposed restrictions on their right to work.
 
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