Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

Leimonis

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The Palestinians will, on account of their suffering being very real and right there in front of everybody to see.

But again, the audience also matters. Overall, I'd say the Palestinians will.
Massive and nearly indiscriminate killing? Infrastructure returned to the stone age? It's a WAR, historians can declare a winner when decades have passed, but right now nobody wins...
 

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why bother with protests? As Turks say, the dogs bark, but the caravan goes on.
Let's just hope and pray the IDF will do their job!
Israel will be the end of Biden's presidency.
Protests are showing him that.

Without the US backing Israel would never be able to get away with genocide.

 
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Your world gets smaller and smaller each day.
Nobody wants to support genocide.

Gaza has had the equivalent of two Hiroshima's in US funded bombs dropped on it. It now likely beats out Cambodia as the most heavily bombed place on this planet. So much peace and love from the chosen people.

 

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richaceg

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Palestine is losing the PR war?
You are such an idiot that you didn't even notice that the NP is referring to the same Mainstreet poll that the NCCM commissioned.
The very same poll where these numbers come from.

What you just did was confirm that you trust these findings.

Hamas winning the PR war...Via AP, Reuters and CNN.....looks like they've become a joke...
 

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The Palestinians will, on account of their suffering being very real and right there in front of everybody to see.

But again, the audience also matters. Overall, I'd say the Palestinians will.
It is crazy how many people on here support hamas and the Palestinians. They must have missed the attack on the innocent Jewish people attending a music festival. Barbaric.
 
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Your world gets smaller and smaller each day.
Nobody wants to support genocide.

Gaza has had the equivalent of two Hiroshima's in US funded bombs dropped on it. It now likely beats out Cambodia as the most heavily bombed place on this planet. So much peace and love from the chosen people.

If you care about Hamas so much, why don't you go join the fight my man?!
 
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Israel will be the end of Biden's presidency.
Protests are showing him that.

Without the US backing Israel would never be able to get away with genocide.

Good. The USA needs a strong president in Trump.

We now have a war in Ukraine and the Middle East under that mush head Biden. His administration is single handedly leading us to World War.
 

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Good. The USA needs a strong president in Trump.

We now have a war in Ukraine and the Middle East under that mush head Biden. His administration is single handedly leading us to World War.
You know a year ago, Franky put Biden at top 5 POTUS history....but because Biden wants to eradicate Hamas....they're no longer bffs....he'll probably vote Peepee now that Justin aligns with "nazi" Jews now..... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yes it was barbaric. What is equally barbaric are the Israeli war crimes against the Palestinians. People also do not support Hamas. They support Palestinians, who are civilians.
Israeli is helping Gazans evacuate...what does Hamas do? they put Gazans in the ine of fire with their stupidity...they have no regard for civilian lives...Hamas held the gazans hostage by not letting most of them leave the area....
 

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Who cares when a racist says he's not racist?
The reports are clear.
Israel is apartheid.




Great sources. All from anti-Israeli groups. Here are some articles for you.

Do you know more about apartheid than a black man who lived through it?

Is Israel an apartheid state? A narrative's origins in South Africa - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

In answering this question, one turns to the views of black South African parliamentarian Kenneth Meshoe, president of the African Christian Democratic Party who, on regular visits to Israel, expressed his admiration for the Jewish state and explained why it was inaccurate to call it an apartheid state. Meshoe and his daughter, Olga Meshoe-Washington. are battling the narrative supported by the BDS movement that the Jewish state is an apartheid regime. Meshoe asserts that such a view is wrong, inaccurate and malicious.

Having lived through the apartheid years in South Africa, Meshoe, who is now 68, said: “Those who know what real apartheid is, as I do, know that there is nothing in Israel that looks like apartheid. Calling it such is an empty political statement that does not hold any truth. In Israel, you see people of different colors, backgrounds and religions interacting with each other every day. The BDS movement is a real pain. It is not a democratic movement but a movement of intimidation.”

“Those who know what real apartheid is, as I do, know that there is nothing in Israel that looks like apartheid. Calling it such is an empty political statement that does not hold any truth. In Israel, you see people of different colors, backgrounds and religions interacting with each other every day. The BDS movement is a real pain. It is not a democratic movement but a movement of intimidation.”
Kenneth Meshoe
Humpty Dumpty was right. We are the masters of our language – language is not our master. Those who seek to be masters use the word “apartheid” in a way that suits their malicious and underhand purposes. They have decided that the word means what they choose it to mean – neither more nor less.

It is their way of trying to undermine the State of Israel, a pernicious form of modern antisemitism, and it is time to combat their disingenuous, immoral and intellectually dishonest campaign.


Do you know more than the French parliament?

French parliament declares Israel not an apartheid state- The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

Habib called the accusation that Israel is an apartheid state “the biggest fake news of the 21st century” and “the fuel that drives all of the antisemites in the world.”

The biggest lie of the decade - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)


When I visited the Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem, I saw Palestinian patients from Gaza receiving life-saving treatments from Israeli Jewish doctors, and I saw Palestinians from East Jerusalem working as doctors and nurses. There is thriving business cooperation between Israeli and Palestinian businesses. This is not what apartheid looks like.
Calling Israel an apartheid state is an insult to the suffering of black people and undermines the definition of apartheid.

A poll conducted in 2021 by “Palestine News Network” found that 93% of the Palestinians in East Jerusalem prefer to live under an Israeli government rather than a Palestinian one. This is the strongest answer to apartheid - even Palestinians themselves prefer the so-called “Israeli apartheid.” Because they know the truth - they know that Israel is a paradise for them, where they can make the “American dream” come true.

Do you know more than Palestinians who live in Israel under "Israeli apartheid"?
 

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Because politicians can see when they are losing votes and when they need to stop what they are doing.
And universities and anti-Semitic politicians will lose their funding and donations.

There's a lot of Jewish dollars that can buy a lot of votes. Undoubtedly you agree with the classic trope of "the Jews control everything in America like the banks and Hollywood". There are HUGE dollars there, Fringefooter. HUUUGE.
 

shack

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Palestine is losing the PR war?
Incomplete quote because you can't prove me wrong!!! Instead you sleazily post a different poll.

I said that they are losing the PR war IN CANADA based on the National Post. Your tactics are an admission that you know that you are losing the debate.

You are such an idiot
Name calling. The classic sign of and admission that you are losing the PR battle on TERB. I think you should calm down a bit. You seem to be getting frustrated and worn down having to battle so many TERB members without convincing a single one.
 

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Hamas winning the PR war......looks like they've become a joke...
The piece said Israel has destroyed 130 tunnels so far.

I don't know how long it will take, but Israel may have to infiltrate the tunnels under the hospitals and destroy them internally. Dangerous work.
 

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Israeli is helping Gazans evacuate...what does Hamas do? they put Gazans in the ine of fire with their stupidity...they have no regard for civilian lives...Hamas held the gazans hostage by not letting most of them leave the area....
Gazans are seeing the truth 1st hand. I think a couple of hundred thousand have left in the last 2 days and they see Israel clearing the roads for them and even handing out road maps/directions. They wanted to leave earlier but they also saw that Hamas would not let them move.

I think Hamas may be losing the PR war in Gaza, of all places.
 
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shack

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It is crazy how many people on here support hamas and the Palestinians. They must have missed the attack on the innocent Jewish people attending a music festival. Barbaric.
Actually, it's just a few, but they are filled with so much hate for Israel/Jews that they post incessantly and make it seem like they are a lot.

But on TERB, they are a fringe element and are getting hammered here every day.
 
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