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squeezer

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Except you'd have to attack your overlords to get outside the prison walls.
Then everyone would call you a terrorist.
Ahhh, so you believe the Hamas's mission was a job well done on Oct. 7 and the punished their overlords right??
 

Frankfooter

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Ahhh, so you believe the Hamas's mission was a job well done on Oct. 7 and the punished their overlords right??
If they stuck to military targets, yes.
But they didn't, they attacked civilians and they should be charged for those war crimes.

Oh, I forgot, you don't think Palestinians have any human rights, and most definitely not the right to self defence.
Which, by the way, is not afforded to occupying powers on the people they occupy.
 

Butler1000

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If you accept terrorists are smart enough to hide amongst civilians, then the only way to get rid of all of them is to kill 2.2M people. Would you be okay with that? 1.1M of them are kids. That is genocide.

Every Hamas member and every potential Hamas member need not be taken out. They can target leaders like Yahya Sinwar, Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Marzuk, Mohammad Deif and Khaled Mashal. Point is anything other than carpet bombings.
So as I pointed out earlier where was your outrage when 300000 Yemeni were killed and the ongoing Syrian civil war with over 220000 killed? That's 50x the present toll in Gaza.


This isn't genocide, its a clean up of terrorists who were condoned and allowed to entrench by the general populace. And the Palestinians have clearly shown they are not to be trusted to want peace, or any solution other than the eradication of Israel

Quite simply its the Palestinian people who have set the rules. And I have no sympathy for them when they are losing. You don't get to provoke a war then cry about the injustice.

And yes, life is cheap over there. They consider their own kids to be propaganda tools, and to them the kids dying isn't a tragedy, but a useful service to Islam. They are that backward and enslaved to a death cult that sacrificing their own kids is not frowned upon. Just God's will.

They are losing because, despite what social media is projecting, the Palestinians are the losers of the ME. Their own fellow Arabs consider them at best useful pawns to damage Israel, and on the other end impediments to peace, as well as possible insurrectionists in their own country if allowed in. As proven by deed.
 

Butler1000

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So what if 300K Yemenis were killed in Yemen? Does that justify 10,000+ dead civilians in Gaza? No it does not.

This isn't a clean up of terrorists either. This is about taking land. You said it yourself earlier on how the Israeli strategy works. Oppress -> make sure there is violent reprisal -> use terrorism as a reason to take land -> go back to step 1. That is a) a war crime and b) ethnic cleansing.

The Palestinian people are just innocent civilians. Your motivation for not having sympathy for them, is not terrorism. It is Islamophobia. This is for you to introspect on. As I said earlier, right wing support for Israel has more to do with Islamophobia than anything else.
It means that its sheer hypocrisy. You don't have have a problem with Muslims dying if they are killed in the name of Islamic sectarian violence.

But you do when Jews defend themselves. I reject the notion of Islamophobia the same as I would reject the notion of Naziphobia. They are not an oppressed minority, they are an aggressive, violent expansionist movement and belief system that is a choice. I have no need to reflect. The evidence is clear.
 

shack

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Are you shocked that your hate filled views are only backed by a tiny minority of Canadians?
Too bad that that is not the case.

Just look at TERB. You are being bombarded. Pummelled.

Why are you on a board with so many racists? So many supporters of genocide and terrorism.

Canada and Canadians support Israel and their right to defend themselves against terrorist attacks.

59 percent approve of Canada's support for Israel (only 18 percent disapprove.) At 71%, Liberal voters back Canada's support for Israel most strongly, followed by Conservative voters (67%) and Bloc Quebecois voters (61%).

It seems that your sources lie almost as much as you do. LOL.

What source did you use? Al Jazeera?
 

shack

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I'd like you to first answer my earlier question several pages ago and condemn Israeli, war crimes and acknowledge the indiscriminate bombings.

I'd like to hear you make the statement that Palestinian lives come first. Israeli military objectives come second.

I am yet to hear you express any sympathy or consideration for Palestinian civilians which I asked if you would several pages ago. Let us first hear you say those words.
I'm sure you would but why do you need something when you clearly said that Oct 7 was a terrorist attack, you condemn terrorism and taking hostages is a war crime. It's a no-brainer for someone with so much conviction.

You don't need any declaration from me. You are as much of a coward as frank.

But just to call your bluff, I condemn any war crimes that Israel has committed.

Now you MUST call for Hamas to release the hostages.
 

Leimonis

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If protecting their citizens is the motive behind this mass murder, then I can assure you this will only serve to create more terror.
Name a way to break that vicious circle that hasn’t been tried before
 

Frankfooter

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Too bad that that is not the case.

Just look at TERB. You are being bombarded. Pummelled.

Why are you on a board with so many racists? So many supporters of genocide and terrorism.

Canada and Canadians support Israel and their right to defend themselves against terrorist attacks.

59 percent approve of Canada's support for Israel (only 18 percent disapprove.) At 71%, Liberal voters back Canada's support for Israel most strongly, followed by Conservative voters (67%) and Bloc Quebecois voters (61%).

It seems that your sources lie almost as much as you do. LOL.

What source did you use? Al Jazeera?
Here's the poll.
Note that I have one and am not just making up numbers.

You really think you that Israel has popular support right now?
Are you really that clueless?

There were two protest for Israel, one had about a dozen people with Israeli flags standing by Queens Park guarded by about 30 cops with guns. The other was a convoy of cars, about 90 cars/people, that drove from Bathurst downtown. Of course they were afraid to get out of their cars.

Last week there were about 25,000 peaceful people on the streets to call out your hate.

Today they shut down Union Station and a few political offices.
This weekend will be bigger.

You are afraid to say you support Israel in public now, you'd never dare do it in public.
Its all changed, nobody is afraid to call out Israel anymore.

Go ahead, coward.
Bring your Israel flag out on Sunday.

 

Frankfooter

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But just to call your bluff, I condemn any war crimes that Israel has committed.
Start with killing children.
Clearly children are civilians and should not be killed, neither targeted nor the victims of disproportionate response.
This should be an easy one.

Say you call out Israel's war crimes of killing children.

 

shack

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Of course you back a quote that shows Churchill is as racist as you are and think that's smart.
Not a surprise in the least.

I'm sure that you, like Churchill, also think indigenous and black Americans are a lesser race, as he does Palestinians.
If he's so racist and you have such high standards why would you ever quote him? That is beneath you.

Evidently, you support the opinions of a racist. You quoted him and using you as my moral compass, I quoted him as well.

But once one of his quotes doesn't align with your racism, HE becomes the racist. You are too easy to ridicule. Aside from Krautilya and Klutz you are ridiculed.
 

Frankfooter

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If he's so racist and you have such high standards why would you ever quote him? That is beneath you.

Evidently, you support the opinions of a racist. You quoted him and using you as my moral compass, I quoted him as well.

But once one of his quotes doesn't align with your racism, HE becomes the racist. You are too easy to ridicule. Aside from Krautilya and Klutz you are ridiculed.
I also quote you and reply to your posts.

Will Biden kill his chances at reelection just to enable Netanyahu's genocide?

 

shack

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Of course you back a quote that shows Churchill is as racist as you are and think that's smart.
Not a surprise in the least.

I'm sure that you, like Churchill, also think indigenous and black Americans are a lesser race, as he does Palestinians.
If he's so racist and you have such high standards why would you ever quote him? That is beneath you.

Evidently, you support the opinions of a racist. You quoted him and using you as my moral compass, I quoted him as well.

But once one of his quotes doesn't align with your racism, HE becomes the racist. You are too easy to ridicule. Aside from Krautilya and Klutz you are ridiculed.
Not. You did not mention Oct. 7 as a terrorist attack. Your typical lies that everybody sees through. You have zero credibility. You have zero shame. You have zero integrity.
 
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shack

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NGO monitor is an Israeli propaganda organization, nice try.
The fact remains that:

South Africa created it and set the terms. It was discrimination of their own citizens based on skin colour. In ANY country of the world no non-citizens get the same rights as legitimate citizens do.

Are Gazans treated differently than Israelis? Sure. But come up with another term because "by definition" it is not apartheid.

Oh! And by the way, the fact that Israel has instituted measures against Gaza that are oppressive DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM (Back at ya'.). Rockets were being fired from Gaza.
 
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