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shack

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Apartheid has existed for 50 years, progressively worsening. [/QUOTE]
Not in Israel. Israel can commit apartheid only in Israel against Israeli citizens. That's how it worked in S. Africa.

Yup, that is why 10,000+ Palestinians are dead.
They are dead because of Hamas' actions AKA, Oct. 7. That is why we always need to talk about Hamas. I know it's convenient for your false narrative to leave them out but it's not possible.


And how kind, in agreeing to only bomb them 20 out of 24 hours in a day.
Like I said. You should be grateful and thank Netanyahu. Beggars can't be choosers. Would it be better if Hamas had as big a mouth as you and say they don't want the 4 hours?
Maybe the Israelis needed a bathroom break. Listen to yourself
No. You should listen to yourself. With retorts like that, you sound like you're in junior high.

Really, your points were much better articulated 4 weeks ago. You are becoming frustrated and angry and defensive and it shows in the quality of your posts, like this one above. It's juvenile.

Maybe that's what happens when you are being hammered in every debate. And that's because you are on the wrong side of morality.
 
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Are you shocked that not everybody is an ideologue? Like you.
Are you shocked that not everybody looks at every issue as being left wing or right wing? Like you.
Are you shocked that some people can look at issues based on their own individual merits? Like you.
Are you shocked that some people can distinguish right from wrong? Like you.
Are you shocked that not all people are filled with hate? Like you.
Are you shocked that not everybody sees any moral equivalence between Israel and white supremacy? Like you do.
Are you shocked that you have not influenced one single person one iota to your cause?
Are you shocked that in the last 4 weeks you've wasted about a week of your life accomplishing nothing?
Are you shocked that as more time goes on there are more and more people on TERB calling you out?
Are you shocked that the Oct. 7 terrorist attack is the cause of death and suffering of Gazans.
Are you shocked that Israel was obeying the ceasefire until Oct. 7.
Are you shocked that everybody realizes more Gazans will die until Hamas surrenders and returns the hostages?
Are you shocked that by not agreeing with that you support the death of more Gazans?
Are you shocked that Israel is kicking Hamas' and will win the war?
Are you shocked that this war will accomplish nothing positive for Hamas or Gazans?
Are you shocked that this war that Hamas started and the ensuing result of death and violence is an exercise in futility?

I could go on but those are already more shocks than somebody receives in the electric chair.

If you are shocked by any of these things, but most likely all, you truly clued out and have your head buried in the sand.....just like the MAGA supporters.
Are you shocked that your hate filled views are only backed by a tiny minority of Canadians?
 

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We clearly both agree that Churchill was a very smart guy, knew what he was talking about and we should learn from what he said. Here's Winnie with David Ben Gurion.
Of course you back a quote that shows Churchill is as racist as you are and think that's smart.
Not a surprise in the least.

I'm sure that you, like Churchill, also think indigenous and black Americans are a lesser race, as he does Palestinians.
 

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Name one particular incident in which Hamas has committed what you consider a war crime and/or terrorism and they should be taken to the ICC for it.
How about Oct. 7? A surprise attack in which they killed 1,400 civilians.

And then do the same for Israel.
I did that weeks ago.

Israel?
They also target civilians but they also get the worst fucking crimes against humanity known to man.
Genocide
Apartheid.

Killing children.
You have yet to even say its wrong to kill children.
Not once have you said its wrong.
Not once.

 

shack

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The debate is about whether or not you support genocide, shack.
Actually, the debate is about the war, not me. Check the title of the thread.

How many people have you had to resort to calling them out for supporting genocide and terror just today? 10? 15? You are a fringe element here. You, kaut and your Little Buddy Klutz. You guys are like the Axis battling the Allies and the ending will look familiar.
 

Frankfooter

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Actually, the debate is about the war, not me. Check the title of the thread.

How many people have you had to resort to calling them out for supporting genocide and terror just today? 10? 15? You are a fringe element here. You, kaut and your Little Buddy Klutz. You guys are like the Axis battling the Allies and the ending will look familiar.
Nobody in my world supports genocide or the war on Palestinians.
Its just here on this board, that skews very right, that its a problem.

Even here how many Israel supporters are there?
5?
10?

Its only on an anonymous board that someone could go so far as to defend killing 5,000 children.
You're too much of a coward to take your views public.
I'm happy to protest with 10's of thousands in Toronto.

All you've done is turn zionism into the new Nazis.
Congrats.

 

Frankfooter

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Beggars can't be choosers. Take what you can get, frank and thank Netanyahu.
Israel should stop now before they destroy their own country by pissing of the world and suffering sanctions.

You've already likely cost Biden the election. #genocideJoe is trending as is #Shutitdow4Palestine today.
All these people think you are the new Nazis.




 

shack

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Even if they knew, so what ? That gives who the right to kill them? So what if they supported them? It is still a war crime to kill people for their 'support' aka thoughts.
Israel is thinking that they need to protect their populace from terrorism and they are thinking that eliminating Hamas is their best approach. Therefore what they're doing is not a war crime. It's only a thought crime.

By the way support can be given by many more ways than just thoughts. Aiding and abetting, hiding, giving info. Such support for war crimes can be considered a war crime.

Regardless, if we agree that Israel is committing war crimes, is that going to help the Gazans? Will it help you sleep better at night knowing that you defeated the evil Zionist terror supporters?
 

shack

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Israel should stop now before they destroy their own country by pissing of the world and suffering sanctions.
Hamas should surrender and release the hostages now before they destroy their own country by allowing more of their citizens to be killed and for Gaza to continue being turned into rubble.

By the time sanctions kick in how much more death and destruction will occur and you support it. How long will that take.

Surrender provides immediate peace. But you don't support that. Why not?
 
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Warning graphic pictures, don't scroll down if squeamish. Israeli babies burned and killed by Hamas.
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Regardless, if we agree that Israel is committing war crimes, is that going to help the Gazans? Will it help you sleep better at night knowing that you defeated the evil Zionist terror supporters?
Yes.

Only if both sides are held to the law, the occupation and apartheid ended and full human rights given to Palestinians can this cycle of violence end.
Admitting that Israel is no better morally than Hamas, as you just did, is a first start.

You need to embrace your humanity, not your hate.

 

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Surrender provides immediate peace. But you don't support that. Why not?
Surrender just put a pause on the cycle of violence.

Both sides need to ceasefire.
Then investigate both sides and charge them.
End the occupation.
End apartheid.
End the genocide.




 
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Conil

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Talking about Hamas, ISIS and terrorists. Gee she's not allowed to have bomb making material for 8 months

Canada: ISIS bride freed, but can’t possess bomb-making instructions for eight months

B.C. woman who married ISIS fighter, repatriated from Syrian camp granted peace bond


Kimberly Polman must report to a parole officer, remain at her current Squamish address, wear electronic supervision equipment and not leave the province

CHILLIWACK — A judge has placed a terrorism peace bond on a B.C. woman who was repatriated to Canada last year from a Syrian prison camp after she married an ISIS fighter.

Chilliwack provincial court Judge Kristen Mundstock ruled Kimberly Polman must follow several conditions while under bond, including reporting to a parole officer, remaining at her current Squamish, address, wearing electronic supervision equipment and not leaving the province.

The order also includes conditions that Polman have no contact with several people, such as her ex-husband, that she not drive vehicle except an electronic bike and that she not communicate with anyone suspected to be involved in terrorism.

“You must not possess any knives or any other sharp-bladed instrument used, designed to be used, or intended to be used to cut things,” the order said of another condition facing Polman. “The exceptions are: A. You can possess a knife when preparing and eating food. B. You can possess these items inside the place where you live and regularly sleep.

 
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If Israel is making the choice to attack Hamas despite civilians being in the way, then it is a war crime. As it is defined per international law. You can say "no" all day long. But it is a war crime.
So a good way for israel to deal with it would be to accept that they are vulnerable to terrorism because the terrorists are smart enough to hide among civilians. And since James Bond only exists in the movies, covert operations that you’ve been mentioning in some of your posts would never help israel.
So you propose to allow a smaller dog to bleed israel indefinitely.
How the fuck is israel supposed to be okay with that?
 
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