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DinkleMouse

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Lmao, your entire pretense in this is asinine. You haven’t offered any viewpoints, perspectives, or suggestions. Just your usual thus far. Almost like someone sitting in the weeds waiting to pounce on something.

What do you suggest DM
Keep chuckling at all the dead civilians. I'm sure everyone thinks it makes you as cool as you think it does. 👍

Why do I have to suggest anything? Someone put forth an argument and I questioned them about it. Are you saying no one argument can ever be challenged?

Half your posts are just you asking inane questions like you know some obvious secret and every else is too stupid to figure it out even when it's you're own arguments you're being questioned about. You're in no position to demand anything.

Back on the ignore list you go, troll. I've yet to see you every contribute anything worth reading.
 

Not getting younger

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Keep chuckling at all the dead civilians. I'm sure everyone thinks it makes you as cool as you think it does. 👍

Why do I have to suggest anything? Someone put forth an argument and I questioned them about it. Are you saying no one argument can ever be challenged?

Half your posts are just you asking inane questions like you know some obvious secret and every else is too stupid to figure it out even when it's you're own arguments you're being questioned about. You're in no position to demand anything.

Back on the ignore list you go, troll. I've yet to see you every contribute anything worth reading.
fine by me. For someone that always says all they want is discourse. Amazing how much you always start by insulting people. Troll and he who runs when challenged.
 

Not getting younger

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Well you literally have no points to make and are just rambling now. Again, par for the course.
Listen Trump boy. If you could read and exercise your brain a bit you’d know I’ve made points.

One being they have shown nothing that suggest they ( Hamas, PIJ, Hezbollah, Iran etc) want peace. Not presently, not historically. In fact that’s been asked if you to point at anything, anything at all and you can’t. Is your brain that dead? That weak that you can’t remember the last dozen or so post. Apparently it is Trump.

Two, I’ve pointed out your hypocrisy with respect to self determination ( amongst other things)

Three, go way back to the beginning I know I can find a quote where I said “ let them be”, at some point Israel will decide ( likely after their ground offensive) and then the pieces can be picked up and they can rebuild.

Now it’s your turn too.
What right do you have to tell Israel what’s right for Israel?

What better suggestions do you have? And don’t say negotiate peace unless you can support that by pointing at some things.

Or are you a coward too.
 

Frankfooter

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The vast majority of people here are denigrating YOU and your views.
You are on the fringes.

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'Vast'?

How many do you have on team genocide?
5?
10?

Its like the protest today. Out in front of Queens Park were about a dozen on team genocide, with Israeli flags. They were guarded by about 20 cops with guns out. Walking by was about 20-30,000 people of all sorts, including lots of 'Jews against apartheid'.

You've become everything you hate.
You knew it was coming and you did nothing.


 
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Not getting younger

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Typical of you Trump boy. Little but bleats and noise. Step around two simple straight forward questions.

This situation is a humanitarian disaster.
yes it is, all wars are welcome to the real world.. Don’t start them.

Two simple questions. What are your answers?
 

Not getting younger

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You call another approach needs to be tried an answer? As someone else said to you Trump boy. People better than you have tried and failed for decades. Maybe that fact should have clued you in a long time ago.

Has it occurred to your small mind there is no answer other than just letting them do what they think is right and picking up the pieces?
 

Not getting younger

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What was it you just said about reading a post?

“Don’t say negotiate peace unless you can support that by pointing at some things”

Yep, your the poster child for Trump. Not only are you as depraved as he is. You have his intelligence too.
 

Not getting younger

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Oh so according to your "big" mind, doing the same shit over and over again, is what is "right". Got it. Aka, you have nothing to actually say. Why was I expecting something different from you? It's par for the course!.
You have nothing do you orange man. You can’t even grasp some of the best Negotiators/ambassadors and more have tried and failed…for decades. So all your left with is bleats.
 
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shack

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retaliatory strikes against a civilian population
They are striking at Hamas, not the civilians. Just because Hamas is using the civilians as shields is not of Israel's doing and as a result is not responsible for what happens to them.

Once the Gazans see how they are being used as pawns, uncaringly manipulated by Hamas, and are finally fed up with the suffering that Hamas brought upon them, there is a chance that they might rise up against their true oppressors. They know full well when Hamas sets up their weapons right in their midst. At some point they will say "enough is enough", hopefully.
 

DinkleMouse

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Its not a retaliatory attack against a largely civilian population, its a retaliatory attack against Hamas who hides amongst a largely civilian population.
Firstly, even though Hamas are embedded in the civilian population, it's still a retaliatory attack against a civilian population. The semantics there don't change it. There is still both a moral and legal issue involved in deliberately targeting civilians.

Hamas deliberately targeted civilians and that's a war crime. Hamas should be tracked down and executed for that. It would be horribly hypocritical of me, or anyone else, to justify Israel doing that exact same thing. Israel believes that are justified because it's in retaliation to the Hamas attack, but Hamas believes they are justified because it's in retaliation to the illegal occupation. So where does it end? An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. Everyone thinks they are right. I don't see a problem with standing up for the civilians and saying I don't care if the attackers think they are justified or not, they are deliberately killing civilians and that's wrong.

And what choice do Israel have though??
They have the choice not to attack civilians.

If they dont try and completely eliminate Hamas there will be many more terror attacks in the future.
So, I'm happy to have a discussion, but I don't want to spend hours if we can't agree on the basic facts, so I'd rather address those first and see where we end up. This was basically my problem with shack's post too... he implied the terrorist attacks could be ended, which I took to mean exactly what you plainly stated: the complete elimination of Hamas.

What do you think the chances are that Hamas can be completely eliminated? I think it's 0%. So you really think it's realistically higher than that?
 
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