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Can you? Because you didn't. Those weren't terrorist attacks. That's like saying Israel's strategy will work because Rome conquered Italy.

I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
But he’s also right. Just depends on how it’s viewed. What clearly hasn’t worked, and would be insane to keep trying is peace negotiations. What did buy some measure was declaring war. And 1967.

Also worked with Al Qaida. Don’t hear much from them anymore.

Seriously. what does anyone suggest?. And what right does anyone have to think they have the right and authority to tell Israelis what to do. They will do, what they deem right for themselves. For a bunch of people to go incessantly about self determination but be so eager to stick their noses in Israel’s business is almost comical.

And in some ways, that too is a root problem in the Mid East. The west thinking it’s our business, and trying to force our values on them. But that too, is also a liberal trait these days.
 
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But he’s also right.
He's not right and your entire dissertation trying to explain it is asinine. You can't claim Israel's defeat of Egypt in a conventional war is the same as retaliatory strikes against a civilian population in an attempt to turn them away from supporting terrorists. There is no "point of view" which is both sensical and where those can be equated. They are entirely separate strategies against entirely different types of belligerents that achieved an entirely different objective, which are the only 3 points involved in the argument I'm making.

Edit: Al Qaïda grew in strength while the US was bombing civilians and only diminished since the coalition's announced withdrawal. So your own example disproves your argument.
 

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He's not right and your entire dissertation trying to explain it is asinine. You can't claim Israel's defeat of Egypt in a conventional war is the same as retaliatory strikes against a civilian population in an attempt to turn them away from supporting terrorists. There is no "point of view" which is both sensical and where those can be equated. They are entirely separate strategies against entirely different types of belligerents that achieved an entirely different objective, which are the only 3 points involved in the argument I'm making.
Lmao, your entire pretense in this is asinine. You haven’t offered any viewpoints, perspectives, or suggestions. Just your usual thus far. Almost like someone sitting in the weeds waiting to pounce on something.

What do you suggest DM
 

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Can you? Because you didn't. Those weren't terrorist attacks. That's like saying Israel's strategy will work because Rome conquered Italy.

I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
Its not a retaliatory attack against a largely civilian population, its a retaliatory attack against Hamas who hides amongst a largely civilian population.

And what choice do Israel have though??
If they dont try and completely eliminate Hamas there will be many more terror attacks in the future.
War sucks, but sometimes you have no choice
 

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Lmao, your entire pretense in this is asinine. You haven’t offered any viewpoints, perspectives, or suggestions. Just your usual thus far. Almost like someone sitting in the weeds waiting to pounce on something.

What do you suggest DM
Keep chuckling at all the dead civilians. I'm sure everyone thinks it makes you as cool as you think it does. 👍

Why do I have to suggest anything? Someone put forth an argument and I questioned them about it. Are you saying no one argument can ever be challenged?

Half your posts are just you asking inane questions like you know some obvious secret and every else is too stupid to figure it out even when it's you're own arguments you're being questioned about. You're in no position to demand anything.

Back on the ignore list you go, troll. I've yet to see you every contribute anything worth reading.
 

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Keep chuckling at all the dead civilians. I'm sure everyone thinks it makes you as cool as you think it does. 👍

Why do I have to suggest anything? Someone put forth an argument and I questioned them about it. Are you saying no one argument can ever be challenged?

Half your posts are just you asking inane questions like you know some obvious secret and every else is too stupid to figure it out even when it's you're own arguments you're being questioned about. You're in no position to demand anything.

Back on the ignore list you go, troll. I've yet to see you every contribute anything worth reading.
fine by me. For someone that always says all they want is discourse. Amazing how much you always start by insulting people. Troll and he who runs when challenged.
 

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Well you literally have no points to make and are just rambling now. Again, par for the course.
Listen Trump boy. If you could read and exercise your brain a bit you’d know I’ve made points.

One being they have shown nothing that suggest they ( Hamas, PIJ, Hezbollah, Iran etc) want peace. Not presently, not historically. In fact that’s been asked if you to point at anything, anything at all and you can’t. Is your brain that dead? That weak that you can’t remember the last dozen or so post. Apparently it is Trump.

Two, I’ve pointed out your hypocrisy with respect to self determination ( amongst other things)

Three, go way back to the beginning I know I can find a quote where I said “ let them be”, at some point Israel will decide ( likely after their ground offensive) and then the pieces can be picked up and they can rebuild.

Now it’s your turn too.
What right do you have to tell Israel what’s right for Israel?

What better suggestions do you have? And don’t say negotiate peace unless you can support that by pointing at some things.

Or are you a coward too.
 

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The vast majority of people here are denigrating YOU and your views.
You are on the fringes.

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'Vast'?

How many do you have on team genocide?
5?
10?

Its like the protest today. Out in front of Queens Park were about a dozen on team genocide, with Israeli flags. They were guarded by about 20 cops with guns out. Walking by was about 20-30,000 people of all sorts, including lots of 'Jews against apartheid'.

You've become everything you hate.
You knew it was coming and you did nothing.


 
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Typical of you Trump boy. Little but bleats and noise. Step around two simple straight forward questions.

This situation is a humanitarian disaster.
yes it is, all wars are welcome to the real world.. Don’t start them.

Two simple questions. What are your answers?
 

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You call another approach needs to be tried an answer? As someone else said to you Trump boy. People better than you have tried and failed for decades. Maybe that fact should have clued you in a long time ago.

Has it occurred to your small mind there is no answer other than just letting them do what they think is right and picking up the pieces?
 

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What was it you just said about reading a post?

“Don’t say negotiate peace unless you can support that by pointing at some things”

Yep, your the poster child for Trump. Not only are you as depraved as he is. You have his intelligence too.
 
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