Israel at war

dirtyharry555

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From someone that's lived it:


My family comes from Croatia, and as non-Croats we left the country during the nationalist frenzy of the early 1990s, which the late Dubravka Ugrešić described in her work as the fight for “pure Croatian air”.

The Gaza Strip, already impoverished by occupation and an unlawful 16-year blockade, whose population is made up of 47% children is being carpet-bombed by the most powerful army in the Middle East with the help of the most powerful allies in the world. More than 4,600 Palestinians lie dead and many more face death in the absence of a ceasefire, because they can’t escape bombardment or lack access to water, food or electricity. The Israeli army claims that its offensive, now being stepped up is a “war on terror”; UN experts say it amounts to collective punishment.

These are all facts. Yet even the mention of the word “Palestine” in Germany risks getting you accused of antisemitism. Any attempt at providing context and sharing facts on the historical background to the conflict is seen as crude justification of Hamas’s terror.

Germany’s unwavering official support for the Israeli government’s actions leaves scant room for humanity. It is also counter-productive, serving to spread fear, Islamophobia and, yes, antisemitism. Having grown up in the shadow of collective guilt for Nazi war crimes, many German intellectuals seem almost to welcome an opportunity to atone for ancestral sins. The atonement, of course, will fall on the backs of Palestinian children.

It should come under the “stating the obvious” category, but still has to be underlined: historically, Islamophobia has only led to more terrorism. Having grown up in Bosnia, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the vicious circle is never-ending. There is always another dead body to be weaponised.

The white saviourist hypocrisy we are witnessing in Germany today will, in the long run, benefit white Germans only.Either you are against fascism in all its forms, or you’re a hypocrite. You condemn a terrorist organisation as well as the terrorism committed by a government.

I am appalled by Hamas’s actions and offer my thoughts for their victims, but I have no say in what they do. None of my taxes go to the funding of Hamas. Some of my taxes, however, do fund the bombing of Gaza. In the period between 2018 and 2022, Israel imported $2.7bn-worth of weapons from the US and Germany.

Living in Germany, I see it as my human responsibility to call it out for its one-sidedness, its hypocrisy and its acquiesence in the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Walking by Lucie’s stone every day, I am reminded of that responsibility. I am reminded of what silence can do and how long it can haunt a place and a people. I come from a silent place soaked in blood. I never thought I would feel that same silence in Germany.
 
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morningbliss

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This entire situation is ridiculous. We are all forgetting they innocent people are dead in both sides. No need to continue to bomb and kill civilians there must be a better way.
 
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richaceg

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This entire situation is ridiculous. We are all forgetting they innocent people are dead in both sides. No need to continue to bomb and kill civilians there must be a better way.
There's always a solution but it's not an easy one...remove Hamas....they inflict damage to both palestinians and israeli civilians....the "asked" palestinian civilians to ignore the warnings of Israel...I don't believe they asked civilians...Hamas is known to terrorize palestinian who doesn't follow their mandate....so yeah...Palestinians are trapped in Gaza not because of Israel....they're being used as body shields....
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Israel set to release video of Hamas killing (beheading?) babies to prove to the world it did happen.
I wont be watching that video, but other people will and I trust they'll verify if its legit or not

 
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Dutch Oven

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This entire situation is ridiculous. We are all forgetting they innocent people are dead in both sides. No need to continue to bomb and kill civilians there must be a better way.
"Innocent" civilians bear some responsibility for the leaders they empower. Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. Gazans have done nothing to remove them from power, and most Gazans support the terrorist tactics of Hamas. This is a war. There will be civilian casualties. Although, unlike Hamas, that will not be the objective of the Israelis.

Civilians who truly do not want to be seen as supporting Hamas have been warned to evacuate. Able bodied citizens who choose not to are either insane, wish to martyr themselves, or are acting in support of Hamas.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Supposedly journalists have already been shown the murdered babies video and will report on it later.
In the meantime IDF has released new video of Hamas murdering innocent civilians

 

Klatuu

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Supposedly journalists have already been shown the murdered babies video and will report on it later.
In the meantime IDF has released new video of Hamas murdering innocent civilians

That looks like what routinely happens to Palestinians in the West Bank.
 

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And 6 billion the US gave to Iran recently.
And after thy got the 6 billion the entire Iranian congress chants death to Israel and USA?!


I'm following this war very closely since it started. There are no easy answers. They are brothers at war sadly and I hope one day peace will be upon that Region.

🙏 ing for peace in the middle east.
The money is frozen by US and Quatar.
 

Not getting younger

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That is why it is important not to demonize people and call them savages, vermin etc, as some posters here have called. Then the one guy I called out threw a hissy fit over it. The same goes for how you talk about non-white immigrants to Canada (especially Muslim immigrants).

If you’re referring to me. It’s because you can’t read English, nor grasp context and comprehension. In your rush to project and label people as racist.

Watch the video, especially the intentional slaughter of babies. What else would you call it but. Sick, Barbaric, animalistic..
 
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