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Your approval of the terrorist attack of Oct. 7 says otherwise. You admittedly knew that there would be reprisals, yet you continually justified the attack.

Ergo, you approved of Gazans being killed. There is no other logical conclusion.
 

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Your approval of the terrorist attack of Oct. 7 says otherwise. You admittedly knew that there would be reprisals, yet you continually justified the attack.

Ergo, you approved of Gazans being killed. There is no other logical conclusion.
The wife beater's defence.
She knew that if dinner was cold you'd break her face ergo she expected her face to be broken and approved having her face broken.

That is the total sum of your morality.

More polls, in the UK only old people back Israel.



They also see their media as heavily biased.

In the US:
 
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The wife beater's defence.
She knew that if dinner was cold you'd break her face ergo she expected her face to be broken and approved having her face broken.
Failed logic.

You are describing a scenario where only 2 parties are involved and that is not the case with what we are discussing. There are 3 parties involved once you include the Gazans. They are the ones getting punished.

A proper analogy would be if she knew that he'd be angry if dinner was cold and she also knew that he'd take it out on the kids. So if she (Hamas) intentionally and provokingly let her husband's (Israel) dinner get cold and the kids (Gazans) subsequently suffered, yeah sure, she'd be deserving of plenty of blame for the children's suffering. And by the way, it doesn't have to be with violence. Maybe they had to go to bed hungry.

Sorry pal. You need to try again. You need an appropriately analogous situation. The dynamic is very different when 3 parties are involved instead of just 2.

But let's really complete the scene. Let's add a 4th party. You, frank, knew the family and you knew how the husband would take things out on the kids. But seeing as you wanted to bang the wife and wanted a wedge driven between husband and wife, you were happy that she left his dinner cold and it didn't bother you at all that the kids had to go to bed hungry for something that they had no control of. That's the kind of person you are. That's the sum of your morality.

Thanks you so much for providing that partial analogy for me. It made it so easy for me to paint you into a corner and you can't use your political false narratives and rewritten history to dip and dodge because it's a domestic situation, not a geopolitical one. You can't outlogic me. All you can do is gaslight.
 

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Failed logic.

You are describing a scenario where only 2 parties are involved and that is not the case with what we are discussing. There are 3 parties involved once you include the Gazans. They are the ones getting punished.
There are only two parties, Palestinians and Zionists.

The wife beater controls everything the wife is allowed to do. She can't leave, she gets no money and if she tries he beats her.
So she makes dinner and hopes he doesn't find fault as he'll take away more of her freedom, break her face and tell her its for her own good.

You want to erase all Palestinians so you won't even use that word. You've erased Palestinians the way you've erased Palestine from the map.
Instead you call them all 'Hamas' in order to justify killing 1524 children and 1400 women.
If you identified them as human you'd have to admit you are evil, so you have to call them 'Hamas' and say they deserved to be killed.

When you see this don't you say 'terrorist', don't you say 'Hamas' and that they needed to be 'erased'?

 
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Frankfooter, are you unemployed or retired? I note your last post yesterday was at 11:49 pm.

Then as far as I can see your first post today was at 10:08 am, and you were constantly posting throughout the day even up until a few minutes ago at 11:55 PM this evening.

I also have to admire your finger stamina unless you are doing "speech-to-text".

Just curious. No offense intended.

On the other hand, as Winston Churchill is reputed to have said: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. You must be the change you wish to see in the world. Change will not come if if we wait for some other person or some other time".
 

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There are only two parties, Palestinians and Zionists.
Sorry buddy. I nailed you 100%.

It's funny how you talk about Zionists, not Israel, yet you mention Gazans and refuse to mention Hamas. It's so easy to rip your posts because they are so biased.

Do you have any reviews that you've posted? Have you commented on other people's reviews?
 

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There are only two parties, Palestinians and Zionists.
Wait. So you're saying it was Palestinians, not Hamas, that crossed the border and killed 1,400 people including the Zionist babies that they beheaded/killed?

Thanks for clarifying what really happened.
 

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Frankfooter, are you unemployed or retired? I note your last post yesterday was at 11:49 pm.

Then as far as I can see your first post today was at 10:08 am, and you were constantly posting throughout the day even up until a few minutes ago at 11:55 PM this evening.

I also have to admire your finger stamina unless you are doing "speech-to-text".

Just curious. No offense intended.
Dollars to donuts. There's an old expression,lol....Anyways, dollars to donuts this isn't the only board he is on. Let that sink in for a minute.
 

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There have been about 55 UN resolutions against Israel, all of which were vetoed by the US. If the Palestinians have no recourse it will just lead to more terrorism and with the advent of cheap drones it will get worse as time goes on.

The US needs to stop vetoing and let the UN do its job to relieve some of the stress of the pressure cooker.

In the long term, the land has to be repartitioned with the border running along the latitude so it is short, and a DMZ put in place. Ideally, it would be a 50/50 split but given the powerlessness of the Palestinians, 70/30 with the 70 going to Israel would be reasonable.
That’s actually not that bad. But how do you propose and what do you propose if, as history has shown.

Hamas
IJ
Hezbollah
Or any other Arab state or Arab group not keep the peace.

What good is a DMZ against rockets and drones? We already know, they have little trouble getting money from Canada and other countries in the world. As well as weapons.

More land?
More hugs and peace talks?
 
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Frankfooter, are you unemployed or retired? I note your last post yesterday was at 11:49 pm.

Then as far as I can see your first post today was at 10:08 am, and you were constantly posting throughout the day even up until a few minutes ago at 11:55 PM this evening.

I also have to admire your finger stamina unless you are doing "speech-to-text".

Just curious. No offense intended.

On the other hand, as Winston Churchill is reputed to have said: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. You must be the change you wish to see in the world. Change will not come if if we wait for some other person or some other time".
I find it after looking through your posts all you have done is contributed mass media propaganda in this thread. Simply just copying and pasting what your being brainwashed with from Zionist backed media. Then post a Winston Churchill quote about "change" that applies to himself because he's too lazy to critically think and differentiate facts from false propaganda.


Obsession with Hamas but the pro Israel posters in this thread will never condone or scrutinize attacks like this? I wonder why.....
 
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I find it after looking through your posts all you have done is contributed mass media propaganda in this thread. Simply just copying and pasting what your being brainwashed with from Zionist backed media. Then post a Winston Churchill quote about "change" that applies to himself because he's too lazy to critically think and differentiate facts from false propaganda.


Obsession with Hamas but the pro Israel posters in this thread will never condone or scrutinize attacks like this? I wonder why.....
In response to that.Various news sites are saying around 20 dead.
Pay attention to the 2nd photo, compare it against the “Israeli air strike against a Hospital that killed 500”.

And pay attention to this from Al Jazeera
Explaining the damage done to the church, the Israeli military claimed: “Hamas intentionally embeds its assets in civilian areas and uses the residents of the Gaza Strip as human shields.

I’m curious how relying on Twitter is any more credible or any less spreading propaganda?


Reality? Who really knows, and maybe people should think twice before starting wars.
 
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Wait. So you're saying it was Palestinians, not Hamas, that crossed the border and killed 1,400 people including the Zionist babies that they beheaded/killed?

Thanks for clarifying what really happened.
Where is the video and evidence of the above mentioned? I will wait for you to post one reputable non western media source claiming this as factual with evidence.


In response to that.Various news sites are saying around 20 dead.
Pay attention to the 2nd photo, compare it against the “Israeli air strike against a Hospital that killed 500”.

And pay attention to this from Al Jazeera


I’m curious how relying on Twitter is any more credible or any less spreading propaganda?


Reality? Who really knows, and maybe people should think twice before starting wars.
I can ask you the same to explain why CNN, Fox and NBC do not post about Palestinian civilians being murdered past 3 days? Why the focus is on Hamas and zero ridicule for IDF launching attacks in public places where civilians are getting killed.

In fact the Whitehouse refuted any claims of kids being beheaded which mass media ran with last week.

Where are the hostages the media was claiming Hamas had? Zero mention of it from Biden in 2 of his speeches.
 
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Where is the video and evidence of the above mentioned? I will wait for you to post one reputable non western media source claiming this as factual with evidence.




I can ask you the same to explain why CNN, Fox and NBC do not post about Palestinian civilians being murdered past 3 days? Why the focus is on Hamas and zero ridicule for IDF launching attacks in public places where civilians are getting killed.

In fact the Whitehouse refuted any claims of kids being beheaded which mass media ran with last week.

Where are the hostages the media was claiming Hamas had? Zero mention of it from Biden in 2 of his speeches.
possibly a few reasons, not the least of which is they know it’s war and bad shit happens and that the likes of Hamas uses people as shields.

“Hostages” who knows. Are you really so naive to believe Hamas would invite western reporters in to see them?

and I do hope your smart enough to know that like Facebook, Twitter has algorithms that force feeds you what you see..based on your… ..

My Advice
Don’t pay attention to people that post a lot of crap from twitter. If anything that tells you where they waste their time “seeking knowledge”.Don’t give anything on Twitter much mind.

Do yourself a favor and read reports from both sides, and when possible as with this, elsewhere. Like the bbc. In short help yourself find signals to noise.
 
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