Israel at war

Frankfooter · Oct 16, 2023

shack said:
Oh those aren't hate speech. They're just hollow words and lies.

But I wasn't referring to that particular post.

Hate speech is your "love language" in general. And everybody knows it. Not just me.

What I love shack is that you admit that all I call for is for deescalation, peace, respect, rule of law and equal rights.
And the response is all the same, people getting pissed off for daring to call out both sides.

All you're doing is make my argument stronger.
There is nothing I've said or argued that is anything but respectful of both peoples (excepting the stupid leadership on both sides0.

People are outraged that I don't support apartheid and genocide.
I'm ok with that.
Never Again, buddy, Never Again.

Frankfooter · Oct 16, 2023

Kautilya said:
Why should I define the line? And who even argues provocation is terrorism? Only those who apologize terrorism.

Hamas is a terror group who target civilians and massacre them - that is terrorism.

Israel responding to terror and in the process civilians dying as collateral damage, is not.

Israel targeting civilians is terrorism.
Israel withholding food, water and power is terrorism.
Israel bombing hospitals and schools is terrorism.
Israel shooting reporters is terrorism.
Israel targeting fleeing civilians is terrorism.

Frankfooter · Oct 16, 2023

basketcase said:
Cart, horse.

Israel invaded southern Lebanon explicitly because of terrorism

That's what Hamas says too.
They attacked because of Israeli terrorism.
You are just the same.

Frankfooter · Oct 16, 2023

basketcase said:
UNRWA put out the original statement about Hamas stealing aid supplies. It has happened many, many times over the years.

Are you posting this to try to justify Israeli terrorism in the form of bombing UNRWA food warehouses?
I find that very disgusting.

Its one thing to block all water, food and power and bomb the shit out of Gaza.
Its another whole level of evil to intentionally take out the limited food for refugees in Gaza.
Fucked.

Kautilya · Oct 16, 2023

Frankfooter said:
Israel targeting civilians is terrorism.
Israel withholding food, water and power is terrorism.
Israel bombing hospitals and schools is terrorism.
Israel shooting reporters is terrorism.
Israel targeting fleeing civilians is terrorism.

It isn't terrorism. Its war. Israel isn't targeting civilians or reporters. Israel isn't bombing schools and hospitals for fun, but because Hamas hides in them. Same with withholding power and water. Its war. I agree it is brutal. I agree a lot of it amounts to war crimes. But it is not terrorism.

shack · Oct 16, 2023

Frankfooter said:
And the response is all the same, people getting pissed off for daring to call out both sides.

Ah, but you most certainly did not and never have. The fact that you pretend otherwise is why you are reviled by TERB.

Repeat after me and do not add anything extra. Do not provide any justification or context.

"I condemn Hamas' attack on Israeli civilians last Saturday as a terrorist attack."

squeezer · Oct 16, 2023

It really is a very reasonable question

“I’m Asking You A REASONABLE Question!” | Julia Hartley-Brewer GRILLS Palestinian Journalist

Frankfooter · Oct 17, 2023

Kautilya said:
It isn't terrorism. Its war. Israel isn't targeting civilians or reporters. Israel isn't bombing schools and hospitals for fun, but because Hamas hides in them. Same with withholding power and water. Its war. I agree it is brutal. I agree a lot of it amounts to war crimes. But it is not terrorism.

You sound just like Hamas.

Frankfooter · Oct 17, 2023

shack said:
Ah, but you most certainly did not and never have. The fact that you pretend otherwise is why you are reviled by TERB.

Repeat after me and do not add anything extra. Do not provide any justification or context.

"I condemn Hamas' attack on Israeli civilians last Saturday as a terrorist attack."

Once more:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/the-dark-side-of-roger-waters.829457/post-8127425

Followed by:

You refuse to denounce:
Israeli apartheid
Israeli occupation of Palestine
Israeli blockade of Gaza
Israeli targeting of civilians
Israeli collective punishment withholding food, water, power
Israeli genocide.

That is a massive list of the most evil crimes against humanity, shack.
Why can't you say you are against those?

Kautilya · Oct 17, 2023

Frankfooter said:
You sound just like Hamas.

Of course you'd know how they sound. You sympathize with terrorists.

Frankfooter · Oct 17, 2023

Kautilya said:
Of course you'd know how they sound. You sympathize with terrorists.

Sigh.
I say take them all to the Hague.
That's not very sympathetic.

You excuse apartheid, terrorism and genocide based on race.

Kautilya · Oct 17, 2023

Frankfooter said:
Sigh.
I say take them all to the Hague.
That's not very sympathetic.

You excuse apartheid, terrorism and genocide based on race.

Terrorists are not given legitimacy and taken to court, that too a kangaroo court like the ICC. Hamas terrorists need to be taken out, that is the appropriate response. You perhaps say this because you are out of touch and come from a country where there are no terrorist threats. But people from countries that have suffered terrorism have very different perspectives.

Frankfooter · Oct 17, 2023

Kautilya said:
Terrorists are not given legitimacy and taken to court, that too a kangaroo court like the ICC. Hamas terrorists need to be taken out, that is the appropriate response. You perhaps say this because you are out of touch and come from a country where there are no terrorist threats. But people from countries that have suffered terrorism have very different perspectives.

That's what Hamas said before they attacked.
The only difference is that Israel has $3.8 billion in US weapons and is going full on genocidal.

Kautilya · Oct 17, 2023

Frankfooter said:
That's what Hamas said before they attacked.
The only difference is that Israel has $3.8 billion in US weapons and is going full on genocidal.

The Hamas is a terrorist group that does not care about Palestinians. Hamas and the Israeli govt. are not remotely the same. To equate them is beyond ridiculous.