Israel at war

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My very first sentence was that provocation is not a terrorist attack. So am not sure what premise you are going on about.

Actual acts of terror are when innocent civilians are targeted and killed. That is a sufficient and widely accepted definition.
No it’s not.
Kids /civilians are targeted and killed plenty of times.
some terms that get used are.
Patricide
Murder/suicide
Crimes of passion
Pedophiles
Mass murders in schools
More

Those are never deemed terrorist
 

basketcase

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Yes, hamas as sending soldiers to kill more than a thousand civilians in cold blood in a well prepared and well coordinated slaughter is a textbook case of genocide.

Hamas has never hidden that their goals is at best ethnic cleansing of millions of Jews because their warped version of Islam.
 
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So Hamas you think are guilty of 'genocidal intent' for their charter.
But Israel, who has actually wiped Palestine off the map and not just called for but enacted Palestine's destruction are innocent?
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Yes your posts are really fucked up. Palestine was never 'wiped from the map' unless you consider Jordan stealing the Palestinian part of the Mandate.
 

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People have a right to express themselves and peacefully protest for views the believe in. Immigration does not mean they should forget their people or their cultures. To say so is contrary to the freedom of expression right wingers usually purport to love. Dearborn (along with Windsor) has a large Arab population, so they support Palestinians. Big deal.
Of course they have a right to protest as long as they are not pushing hate speech.
 
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What? This seriously undermines the Israeli narrative.
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Holy fuck. Hamas openly admits their attack on Jewish civilians in towns, openly admits surrounding and gunning down youth at a festival, and openly admit to holding 200+ civilian hostages and your only excuse is to pretend those 1000+ dead were all killed by Israel?

Your views and promotion of hatred are fucking disgusting.
 

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Beirut? How many times was Lebanon invaded by Israel? Hezbollah came to power the same way Hamas did, in reaction to aggressions.
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Cart, horse.

Israel invaded southern Lebanon explicitly because of terrorism using Lebanon as a safe harbour. Iran used this to violate Lebanese sovereignty by setting up a non-governmental military that has control over Southern Lebanon.

p.s. In your normal double standard, I see you don't mention the Syrian invasion of Lebanon which started well before Israel' and lasted much longer.
 
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basketcase

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Frank say Israel is committing terrorist attacks, when he clearly doesn’t understand what a terrorist is. Maybe he will find the back bone for his conviction to answer 1 simple question.

Can Frank name a single, just one. Occasion when terrorist have warned civilians to leave the area before attacking?

Just one.
To be fair, the IRA did at times. Of course unlike Hamas, their goal was to make a statement with property damage, not butcher civilians.
 
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Biden to visit Israel on Wednesday, Blinken says
"If Hamas blocks humanitarian aid from reaching civilians, we'll work to prevent it from happening again," the Secretary of State said.
2000 Marines heading to Israel.


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Frankfooter

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Oh those aren't hate speech. They're just hollow words and lies.

But I wasn't referring to that particular post.

Hate speech is your "love language" in general. And everybody knows it. Not just me.
What I love shack is that you admit that all I call for is for deescalation, peace, respect, rule of law and equal rights.
And the response is all the same, people getting pissed off for daring to call out both sides.

All you're doing is make my argument stronger.
There is nothing I've said or argued that is anything but respectful of both peoples (excepting the stupid leadership on both sides0.

People are outraged that I don't support apartheid and genocide.
I'm ok with that.
Never Again, buddy, Never Again.
 

Frankfooter

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Why should I define the line? And who even argues provocation is terrorism? Only those who apologize terrorism.

Hamas is a terror group who target civilians and massacre them - that is terrorism.

Israel responding to terror and in the process civilians dying as collateral damage, is not.
Israel targeting civilians is terrorism.
Israel withholding food, water and power is terrorism.
Israel bombing hospitals and schools is terrorism.
Israel shooting reporters is terrorism.
Israel targeting fleeing civilians is terrorism.
 
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Frankfooter

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UNRWA put out the original statement about Hamas stealing aid supplies. It has happened many, many times over the years.
Are you posting this to try to justify Israeli terrorism in the form of bombing UNRWA food warehouses?
I find that very disgusting.

Its one thing to block all water, food and power and bomb the shit out of Gaza.
Its another whole level of evil to intentionally take out the limited food for refugees in Gaza.
Fucked.
 
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