Hey xmontrealer. I don't give out personal info on this board.
I understand why the state of Israel was created but think it was faulty logic. The Holocaust is perhaps the most horrific crime against humanity ever, along with the indigenous genocide in North America. The mandate of Palestine had a history of peaceful multicultural coexistence, as did quite a few of the surrounding countries, there was a great read I about an 'Arab Jew', someone who's family was part of the Iraqi Jewish community. I agree that the Jewish people needed protection after WWII but building ethno states out of multicultural states wasn't the way to do it.
If you're Jewish, you should also understand that Toronto has a long history of left wing Jews, from the Christie Pits riot to this day at places like Camp Navelt. I'm friends with that community as I'm also friends with Palestinians and some other Arab communities. Toronto works in a way few places does as a multicultural city. That community does not support zionism and are trying to find a way forward to peace. And not through trying to drive either people into the sea or by using military force to subjugate the other side. That's why I argue for deescalation and the end of apartheid.
But if you support Israel's actions, can you say where you think its going and how you think peace can be achieved?
Non of the Israeli supporters here can.
What is the endgame?
Frankfooter, I wasn't asking for your real name, email address, home address, birth date, SIN, or phone number. Just trying to see if you may have any inherent bias due to your personal background and relationships.
As to an endgame, I don't see any possibility for peace in the Middle East as long as most Muslim children in the Middle East are taught to hate Jews as soon as they are able to understand the concept.
Only by the recognition of all Arab countries of Israel's right to exist in peace as a fundamentally Jewish state can any peaceful and stable 2 state solution be found to the Palestinian issue. And it will be many generations before that is even possible, given the deeply rooted hatred that is ingrained in current generations of most Muslims in the region. I honestly believe that if Israel could trust the Arab states, and a new official Palestinian state, to not try to harm, attack or destroy Israel, there could be a lasting peace in the region. I absolutely believe that the vast majority of Israeli Jews could put the past behind them and and show no aggression towards other Arab states if that were the case.
It behooves me to ask
you what it might take for Israel to trust that the Arab nations will not try to destroy Israel, before Israel can afford to let its guard down completely.
That notwithstanding, there will always be an Israel, as the United States will not allow that part of the world to have no strong American ally.
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