Frank likes to think that a report commissioned by a bunch of dictators on the supposed Human Rights Council and written by someone who believes the 'Jewish lobby has subjugated America' is the absolute truth. He also thinks groups like Amnesty should be applauded as absolute truth tellers when the condemn Israel while arguing exactly the opposite to distract from their criticism of Palestinian factions.
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Standards change, you need to prove that saying 'Jew food' was racist when it happened.
It is now, but was it then?
You do have a tendency to shout 'antisemitism' a lot, back up your claims.
After all, Zionists used to acknowledge both the existence of Palestine and that Palestinians are indigenous.
But now you won't recognize them even as human and deserving of basic human rights and equality.
Are you saying the Israeli B'tselem is run by a bunch of dictators because they came to the same results?
Or are you arguing that Amnesty and HRW are all dictators?
Its hard to keep track of which ones you think are dictators and which ones you think are just antisemites.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
www.amnesty.org
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
Apartheid
The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...
By the way, please stop claiming you know what I think or that you know what Palestinians think.
You back apartheid and seem to think everyone else likes it.
Clearly you have no clue.
The following are members of the Human Rights Council:Are you saying the Israeli B'tselem is run by a bunch of dictators because they came to the same results?
Or are you arguing that Amnesty and HRW are all dictators?
Its hard to keep track of which ones you think are dictators and which ones you think are just antisemites.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...www.hrw.org
Apartheid
The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...www.btselem.org
Algeria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Chile, Costa Rica, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Maldives, Morocco, Romania, South Africa and Viet Nam.
How many are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause or rely heavily on such commodities as Arab oil, and their biases may be a reflection of this?
Just because you claim an organization is
Algeria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Chile, Costa Rica, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Maldives, Morocco, Romania, South Africa and Viet Nam area members of the Human Rights Council. How many of these countries are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause or are heavily reliant on Arab oil and their voting pattern reflect on this? Is there enough for a consistent pro-Palestinian voting pattern?Are you saying the Israeli B'tselem is run by a bunch of dictators because they came to the same results?
Or are you arguing that Amnesty and HRW are all dictators?
Its hard to keep track of which ones you think are dictators and which ones you think are just antisemites.
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians
Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
Apartheid
The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...
Just because you agree with these reports doesn't make them well researched and unbiased. Just like someone might say a report by the Jewish Defence Forces is well researched and unbiased because that person agrees with everything the JDF does.
Do the reports of these organizations give both sides of the story, whether or not someone agrees with them? If so, then they are well researched and biased. Otherwise, they're a reflection of your biases.
Your argument is weak. The reports come from 2 incredibly well respected human rights organizations and one Israeli human rights organization as well as the UN report. Trying to argue that because the UN represents all countries it therefore is biased and therefore Amnesty, HRW and B'tselem's reports are biased is incredibly faulty logic. Even trying to argue that because there are countries on the UN HRC that the report, which was commissioned and completed by internationally respected lawyers, is biased is weak.
You can't debate the facts or the charges. Its incredibly weak that you are just trying to attack the messenger while ignoring the fact that there are multiple and very well respected other messengers.
My argument is weak? HAHA. Who says it's weak? You? Who are you? Who says they are well respected human rights organizations? People who are anti-Israel? Who "incredibly well respects" them? Answer my questions about these reports before criticizing me. Give me proof other than just what you say.
Start with B'tselem, an Israeli human rights report.
Read their report and tell me where the bias lies.
A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid
More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...
Tell me what in that report is biased.
He won’t provide anything. He doesn’t have the intellectual horsepower. How could he? It’s irrefutable.Start with B'tselem, an Israeli human rights report.
Read their report and tell me where the bias lies.
A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid
More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...
Tell me what in that report is biased.
Megalomaniac. Raking in multi millions over the last 20 years of touring. Has not had a good song since "What God Wants". He used to be a mysterious
character, but he plays every shed in North America regularly. Oh well.
character, but he plays every shed in North America regularly. Oh well.
Of course you won't agree with these because the organizations are not as unbiased as B'tselem.Start with B'tselem, an Israeli human rights report.
Read their report and tell me where the bias lies.
A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid
More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...
Tell me what in that report is biased.
From the “River to the Sea”: B’Tselem’s Demonization Crosses the Line - ngomonitor
On January 12, 2021, the Israeli NGO B’Tselem launched a high-visibility international campaign, under the headline, “A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid,” escalating its political and ideological condemnations that go far beyond...
www.ngo-monitor.org
B’Tselem – Less Reliability and Credibility, More Politics
B’Tselem’s reliance for its funding & sources of information on partisan political organizations places organization’s credibility & reputation in question.
jcpa.org
You can't criticize what is in the report so the best you can do is to quote from two right wing Israeli sources?Of course you won't agree with these because the organizations are not as unbiased as B'tselem.
From the “River to the Sea”: B’Tselem’s Demonization Crosses the Line - ngomonitor
On January 12, 2021, the Israeli NGO B’Tselem launched a high-visibility international campaign, under the headline, “A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid,” escalating its political and ideological condemnations that go far beyond...
B’Tselem – Less Reliability and Credibility, More Politics
B’Tselem’s reliance for its funding & sources of information on partisan political organizations places organization’s credibility & reputation in question.
You need to pick a non Israeli source if you are claiming it to be unbiased.
NGO Monitor:
NGO Monitor (Non-governmental Organization Monitor) is a right-wing non-governmental organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO activity from a pro-Israel perspective.[4][5][6][7]
The organization was founded in 2001 by Gerald M. Steinberg under the auspices of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, before becoming a legally and financially independent organization in 2007.[
JCPA:
The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (JCPA) is an Israeli think tank specializing in public diplomacy and foreign policy founded in 1976.[4] Describing itself on its website as "The Global Embassy for Israel", it publishes the biennial journal Jewish Political Studies Review alongside other content.
The JCPA is considered to be politically neo-conservative.[5] It was at one point financed to a large degree by Sheldon Adelson.[6]
You have yet to answer any of my comments lol. Anyway, enough of your garbage. Time to put you and your nonsense on ignore.
You argued that the most respected human rights organizations in the world are biased and used Israeli propaganda as your evidence.
See you, enjoy backing apartheid.
For B’Tselem, here you are. Now post the international awards that your chosen “sources” have received.
“In more than 30 years of work, B'Tsele has earned a place of honor in the local and international human rights community, and has received various awards, including the Carter-Menil Award for Human Rights (1989, jointly with Al-Haq); the Danish PL Foundation Human Rights Award (2011, jointly with Al-Haq); the Stockholm Human Rights Award (2014); and the Human Rights Award of the French Republic (2018, jointly with Al-Haq). B’Tselem’s video project has also received various awards, including the British One World Media Award (2009) and the Israeli Documentary Filmmakers Forum Award (2012).”
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Wow. your defences for antisemitism sure are getting desperate. I guess we can take away your progressive card.
I find it amazing that you are willing to call out Republican types for using veiled antisemitic tropes yet refuse to do so for OVERT racism. You're a fucking joke.
I love the way you try to use Israeli groups to 'prove' how despicable Israel is.
And it's funny that you quote rights groups while rejecting their claims. All of those groups say a Jew ssimply being in the West Bank is not a legitimate target. You on the other hand explicitly said that some Jews being violent makes every jew a valid target because in your own words, "you can't tell them apart".
As always, you see a thread about antisemitism and want to distract it into your anti-Israel obsession but you've gone far, far further as you usually just try to distract instead of in this case you are fully on board with Water's antisemitism. It's just like your defence of the alleged investigator who claimed Jews have subjugated America.
unlike you, I actually pay attention to what Palestinians say and hold them just as accountable as everyone else when they transgress my opinion. You still keep the Victorian mindset that they need to do what you say despite them hating it and you pretend they have no agency. It's obvious that to you, Palestinians are just a tool for you to vent your bile about Jews.
But Palestinian supremacists demanding a Jew free Palestine from the river to the Sea doesn't bother you in the slightest.Start with B'tselem, an Israeli human rights report.
Read their report and tell me where the bias lies.
A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid
More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...
Tell me what in that report is biased.
And even more hypocritical while happily living in a country with ensconced white supremacy
Franky only listens to Jews (or Palestinians) when he likes what they say. Otherwise he dismisses them as not being worthy of considering.Of course you won't agree with these because the organizations are not as unbiased as B'tselem.
From the “River to the Sea”: B’Tselem’s Demonization Crosses the Line - ngomonitor
On January 12, 2021, the Israeli NGO B’Tselem launched a high-visibility international campaign, under the headline, “A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid,” escalating its political and ideological condemnations that go far beyond...
B’Tselem – Less Reliability and Credibility, More Politics
B’Tselem’s reliance for its funding & sources of information on partisan political organizations places organization’s credibility & reputation in question.
