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Frankfooter said:
Yes, we all know that Israel will kill as many Palestinians as they think they can get away with.
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Moronic.

Hamas openly targets civilians with their thousands of rockets and their abductions. Israel hits Hamas targets even though civilians may also die in the strikes. Israelis actions in this are war, Hamas' are war crimes.


p.s. You know very well that a huge number of the dead Palestinians in past conflicts (and likely these numbers as well) were the Palestinian combatants. You always include dead attackers in these numbers and in the last Gaza war, Hamas, PFLP, and PIJ claimed over half of the dead as their fighters. Sadly at the same time you try to pretend that every dead Jew is somehow a legitimate target.
 
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basketcase said:
Yes we will get more war as long as Palestinians are led by people who think violence is a solution.

What they don't get is unlike insurgencies like Afghanistan, Israel is the only home most Israelis have ever known and they have nowhere to flee to. All that terrorism and war crimes from Hamas do is make the lives of Palestinians worse. Sadly people like you don't give a shit about that, as long as you have an excuse to spew your bile about Jews.
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In 2018 Palestinians in Gaza marched to the borders to protest for freedom and basic human rights.
Israel shot them.
So the went and protested again the next week.
Israel shot them.
So the went the next week and every week for a year.
Israel shot them.

200 dead
36,000 injured

Don't tell me they didn't try peaceful protest. You still refuse to call out Israel for shooting the indigenous population for protesting.
75% of the people of Gaza are refugees. They have nowhere to go because Israel stole their homes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710595221640102120
 
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basketcase said:
Moronic.

Hamas openly targets civilians with their thousands of rockets and their abductions. Israel hits Hamas targets even though civilians may also die in the strikes. Israelis actions in this are war, Hamas' are war crimes.


p.s. You know very well that a huge number of the dead Palestinians in past conflicts (and likely these numbers as well) were the Palestinian combatants. You always include dead attackers in these numbers and in the last Gaza war, Hamas, PFLP, and PIJ claimed over half of the dead as their fighters. Sadly at the same time you try to pretend that every dead Jew is somehow a legitimate target.
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Israel does exactly the same.
If Palestinians are terrorists so are Israelis.
Israel just has nukes, tanks, jets, drones to do it with.
 
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Frankfooter said:
In 2018 Palestinians in Gaza marched to the borders to protest for freedom and basic human rights.
Israel shot them.
So the went and protested again the next week.
Israel shot them.
So the went the next week and every week for a year.
Israel shot them.

200 dead
36,000 injured

Don't tell me they didn't try peaceful protest. You still refuse to call out Israel for shooting the indigenous population for protesting.
75% of the people of Gaza are refugees. They have nowhere to go because Israel stole their homes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710595221640102120
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www.theguardian.com

Gaza Strip protesters received bullet wounds to ankles, medics report

Influx of injuries may suggest deliberate targeting by Israel’s army, which human rights groups say is unlawful
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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Frankfooter said:
Israel does exactly the same.
If Palestinians are terrorists so are Israelis.
Israel just has nukes, tanks, jets, drones to do it with.
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In far greater numbers and far more often. The illegal military occupation, by its very definition , targets Palestinian civilians.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Yes, we all know that Israel will kill
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And Hamas knows as well that Israel will seek retribution.

Yet they choose to have this inflicted on their people because of their own actions. Not too smart and not too concerned about their own citizenry.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Israel does exactly the same.
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You are completely full of shit.

I know you think every Jew in Israel is a legitimate target but Hamas openly gunned down hundreds of civilians in their homes, on the streets, and at a festival. Israel's targeting isn't perfect but their policy isn't just to shoot or kidnap anyone they see like Hamas just did.
 
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basketcase said:
Hmm. Why is it you don;t want to talk about this weekend/ Are you running out of ways to defend Hamas' massive act of terrorism?
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If you're so passionate about your cause, get on a plane to Israel now and fight.
Typing does nothing.
 
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Adam_hadam said:
If you're so passionate about your cause, get on a plane to Israel now and fight.
Typing does nothing.
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Wow that's a moronic stance. Do you really think it's strange that someone would criticize an attack that killed 600+ civilians in cold blood? And sorry but international pressure on both sides to negotiate peace is the only way forward.


p.s. Your post makes it seem like you want to join Hamas
 
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