Mr. Trudeau Going Full Adolph

[Not getting younger]

Some people don't understand how government works and that all parties vote on the speaker, who does not act on behalf of a party or the PM.
Then they repeat direct lies from the party that pushes disinformation and are stunned when they find out how things really work.

How clueless is Franky?
I suppose that explains and excuses the world laughing at us, at the liberals, at JT, at you, for your undying and unwavering support.

All the headlines in the world, are pointing the finger at Rota. Not!! Franky and die hard liberals here are right, the world is wrong. Again, a simple answer. “Forest for the trees”

Try to find another excuse will you, for not grasping what it means to be a leader, never mind a head of state.

 

[DesRicardo]

Calling Anthony Rota an independent is like calling Andrew Scheer an independent when he was speaker.

 

[DesRicardo]

 

[richaceg]

JT finally folded...he knew

That's just stupid partisanship.



According to rich, 98 year old Nazi vets are more of a threat to Canada than active neo Nazis and Nazis.

You don't think Nazi's shouldn't pay for the atrocities they commited 80 years ago? Let's round up all the neo Nazis you know and have evidence and put them in jail...why isn't Trudeau doing anything about 'em?

 

[nottyboi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706735451648774601

Well I guess what he really means is Putins assertions about Ukrainian nazis is NOT propaganda, and we have seen it, all the nazi worship. marches. commemorations of Bandera. the Azov batallion.

 

[nottyboi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706750236239044631

Well telling another out and out lie is not helpful. The Speakers office is autonomous and non-partisan. The speaker was elected by parliament and the Libs do not have a majority. So Parliament elected him, and he represents parliament. So blaming the house leader for this is stupid and decitful.

 

[richaceg]

Well telling another out and out lie is not helpful. The Speakers office is autonomous and non-partisan. The speaker was elected by parliament and the Libs do not have a majority. So Parliament elected him, and he represents parliament. So blaming the house leader for this is stupid and decitful.

So what's the purpose of Trudeau giving an apology? just to appease the opposition? That's not like him...

 

[nottyboi]

Nothing like taking responsibility for your actions

Why is it a Liberal action? Do you understand how the Speakers is selected and how his office operates?

 

[mellowjello]

I will never understand why people make these "technical" arguments. This is a cop out.

When someone from lets say, Cambodia, sees this, what do you think they see or think? They see that "Canada invited a Nazi to the Parliament". That is what they see. Who represents Canada ? Its Trudeau. Not the speaker.

How the speaker's office works, therefore, is irrelevant.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think the optics in Cambodia or anywhere else should override our own process for fairly holding people accountable.

 

[Frankfooter]

How clueless is Franky?
I suppose that explains and excuses the world laughing at us, at the liberals, at JT, at you, for your undying and unwavering support.

All the headlines in the world, are pointing the finger at Rota. Not!! Franky and die hard liberals here are right, the world is wrong. Again, a simple answer. “Forest for the trees”

Try to find another excuse will you, for not grasping what it means to be a leader, never mind a head of state.

I know the office of the speaker acts independently. This is not about how the Canadian government works. That is irrelevant.

Why is it a Liberal action? Do you understand how the Speakers is selected and how his office operates?

NGY, do some basic reading please.

Speaker of the House of Commons (Canada) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

 

[Dutch Oven]

What kind of socks do you wear to a Nazi reception? I guess the press buried those pictures!

 

[richaceg]

NGY, do some basic reading please.

Speaker of the House of Commons (Canada) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

It doesn't shield Trudeau from what happened. Was this intentional? Heck No...I don't think JT or Pee pee wanted this to happen....but it happened... it isn't because there is some sort of nefarious intent...shines light on the incompetence...but of course you don't see this....

 

[mellowjello]

They definitely should. This was not just about optics.

And holding Trudeau accountable, is how leadership works.

Your argument was about what " they see".
If it's about absolute right or wrong and culpability, what anyone sees from outside our country is irrelevant.

 

[mellowjello]

Both are important. What is right or wrong is important. How other countries view Canada is also important. I was using "what they see" to stress the point that the PM is responsible for representing Canada and therefore should take responsibility for the mistake.

Even if he wasn't responsible and the Speaker is independent of any party?

 

[DesRicardo]

 

[JuanGoodman]

Why is it a Liberal action? Do you understand how the Speakers is selected and how his office operates?

Who cares about the Speakers office

He invited the guy to attend but it was Trudeau's and Liberals responsibility to check everybody that was on the list of invited people!

It's not the Speaker who is suppose to provide security for a foreign dignitary in Canadian Parliament, it's the party in power and the prim minister and every security department that's involved

Liberal followers are such dimwits that it's enough to tell them "The Speaker did it" and they believe it blindly.

The speaker issued the invitation, the goverment suppose to check everybody before they were allowed to enter

 

[mandrill]

JT finally folded...he knew

You don't think Nazi's shouldn't pay for the atrocities they commited 80 years ago? Let's round up all the neo Nazis you know and have evidence and put them in jail...why isn't Trudeau doing anything about 'em?

Richie, you don't just "round people up". You need proof.

This shit happened 80 years ago. All the witnesses have died of old age.

 

[mandrill]

How long are you guys gonna run with this?

A mistake was made. Apologies were given. Let's face it..... All of you geniuses would have made exactly the same mistake, right? You knew nothing about this issue before The Sun figured it out for you.

Probably just me, Xmontrealer and maybe Dcotor would have guessed what the guy's background is.

And hey - geniuses!!! - read that Wiki article. The Canadian government gave the 14 SS Division a clean bill of health 50 years ago. They're going to do fuck now. Neither would the Tories.

You know what's REALLY important??!!..... The Trump fraud trial in New York.

And no. No one's going to extradite a 98 year old. Hate Nazis all you want. But the old fucker's 98 years old. It ain't going to happen. And no one would trust the Polish government to do a fair prosecution in any event. Plus all the witnesses are long dead.

I'm going to count how many pages you guys have your "Fuck Trudeau!" fest on this one!!!

 

[JuanGoodman]

How long are you guys gonna run with this?

A mistake was made. Apologies were given. Let's face it..... All of you geniuses would have made exactly the same mistake, right? You knew nothing about this issue before The Sun figured it out for you.

Probably just me, Xmontrealer and maybe Dcotor would have guessed what the guy's background is.

And hey - geniuses!!! - read that Wiki article. The Canadian government gave the 14 SS Division a clean bill of health 50 years ago. They're going to do fuck now. Neither would the Tories.

You know what's REALLY important??!!..... The Trump fraud trial in New York.

And no. No one's going to extradite a 98 year old. Hate Nazis all you want. But the old fucker's 98 years old. It ain't going to happen. And no one would trust the Polish government to do a fair prosecution in any event. Plus all the witnesses are long dead.

I'm going to count how many pages you guys have your "Fuck Trudeau!" fest on this one!!!

just because you belong to 'Suck Trudeau" group doesn't mean that most normal people are not pissed at what happened and that out prince is diverting the blame that squarely falls on him

yet again

 

[mellowjello]

Who cares about the Speakers office

He invited the guy to attend but it was Trudeau's and Liberals responsibility to check everybody that was on the list of invited people!

It's not the Speaker who is suppose to provide security for a foreign dignitary in Canadian Parliament, it's the party in power and the prim minister and every security department that's involved

Liberal followers are such dimwits that it's enough to tell them "The Speaker did it" and they believe it blindly.

The speaker issued the invitation, the goverment suppose to check everybody before they were allowed to enter

Which foreign dignitary are you talking about?