Should we halt Immigration until we can get it under control.
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Immigration has always been and will always be controlled. Otherwise
China and India would be happy to send us a good proportion like 10 to
20 percent of their population to us. It is well-thought and prudent immigration
policies we should strive for. At present I think we have more to worry about
rising cost of health care, uncontrolled deficit spending and unaffordable
housing than not being able to bring in sufficient number of immigrants.
So much misinformation in this response. The USA is doing it right. Canada is taking in way too many immigrants. I'm a homeowner so it is great for my home equity but man oh man is the GTA congested.
I was waiting for you to call me racist. Typical immigrant calling existing Canadians and the system racist. That's not good sir.
Also, I can see you've been reading the liberal globe. Try to convince people who can't afford a home or groceries that record immigration is good. There needs to be balance and people are getting to a breaking point.
Pretty sure I linked one of these already.
Immigration numbers going back to around 1990 have been fairly steady, maybe around 125,000 with small incremental increases. Eventually hitting around 300,000 when the Liberals took power in 2016. With about 70% each year heading to the GTA.
Not hard to figure out why so many go to the GTA
www.globenewswire.com
So now look at house prices historically. And ask the very simple question. What years did house prices start their meteoric rise. 2005-2006??? And then seriously in 2011??? What was happening before and during….
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To blame it all on immigration is just wrong. Prior to taking off, immigration……not much impact….Kind like some were pointing the fingers at foreign investors for a long time and not supply/demand.
The other key thing, few talk about is net migration within Canada. Cough cough people leaving province A and going to province B. Again, what was happening just before prices took off.
If we want want to blame something. Blame McGuinty/Wynne and people that didn’t give two shits (aka the gta) about sooooooooooooooo many lost jobs…
Immigration numbers going back to around 1990 have been fairly steady, maybe around 125,000 with small incremental increases. Eventually hitting around 300,000 when the Liberals took power in 2016. With about 70% each year heading to the GTA.
Not hard to figure out why so many go to the GTA
GTA welcomes 77 per cent of Ontario’s immigrants – why that’s a concern
Ottawa, ON, Aug. 29, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Ottawa, ON – August 29, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) – As economic and fiscal pressures loom in Ontario,...
So now look at house prices historically. And ask the very simple question. What years did house prices start their meteoric rise. 2005-2006??? And then seriously in 2011??? What was happening before and during….
Greater Toronto Housing Market: 25-Year Comparison
Price and sales gains in Greater Toronto housing market are being fuelled by rapid population growth, land scarcity and low interest rates.
blog.remax.ca
To blame it all on immigration is just wrong. Prior to taking off, immigration……not much impact….Kind like some were pointing the fingers at foreign investors for a long time and not supply/demand.
The other key thing, few talk about is net migration within Canada. Cough cough people leaving province A and going to province B. Again, what was happening just before prices took off.
If we want want to blame something. Blame McGuinty/Wynne and people that didn’t give two shits (aka the gta) about sooooooooooooooo many lost jobs…
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Hundreds lining up to apply at Ontario McDonald's shows reality of job market for some
Multiple videos are going viral on TikTok this week for shedding light on the fierce competition people seeking entry-level jobs in Ontario are curre…
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"Immigration to the country is also at an all-time high....."Hundreds lining up to apply at Ontario McDonald's shows reality of job market for some
Multiple videos are going viral on TikTok this week for shedding light on the fierce competition people seeking entry-level jobs in Ontario are curre…
Yeah, but the other poster will say we don't see the millions of immigrants who are rich and/or hold jobs with 6 figure salaries.
he told you what his concern is
it is a legitimate concern & has nothing to do with race
While this isn’t really related to immigration and labour forces it’s more a hand in hand kind of thing.
It’s worth mentioning somewhere. It’s never or or rather only rarely talked about in the media, and virtually never by politician. The latter likely for a good reasons. They don’t want to look bad.
Anytime, there is a recession, or similar downturn in economic activity. For reference 2003-2006 manufacturing in small town Ontario…again in 2008 (the financial crises) , again in 2011( Oil prices crashing) and most certainly 2019-2021. Two things.
Politicians will make noise about the unemployment rate. Whether as a barb to score political points when it “high”…, or when it recovers to Pat themselves on the back and convince their blind loyal followers they are doing good…..They never talk about what data generates that rate ( just those looking for work and reporting to EI ) nor do they talk about the quality of work.
Statistical fact.
Following mass layoffs, people have mouths to feed, and bills to pay, EI or CERB only last so long (as well as what meagre savings they might have). The vast majority of people that get laid off, end up long term, in jobs that are far lower paying than the ones they lost…..Many never get back to where they were….An actual race to the bottom.
See above. And a mile long line of people looking for anything that will keep the wolves at bay…Or more accurately in this case, anything that will keep them afloat.
But politicians, the blind. They don’t see that. They point at “the unemployment rate”…oh, look at us, we’ve recovered 500,000 jobs. Or for those that think people are lazy, should be able to get “better” paying jobs….Bzzzz wrong. The stats say so, that’s not how it works.
“Good for you Chrystia, the only people you are fooling are your loyal followers and those that don’t follow economics. Woot woot, 900,000 good/decent jobs thrown overboard, replaced with 900,000 part timers, at McDonalds”…Plus or minus all those newcomers ( about 1.8million since 2018 or 4x 300k and 1x 500k ) looking for work, and a place to hang their hats…
And maybe also worth mentioning. Anywhere……..where there is……opportunity
It’s worth mentioning somewhere. It’s never or or rather only rarely talked about in the media, and virtually never by politician. The latter likely for a good reasons. They don’t want to look bad.
Anytime, there is a recession, or similar downturn in economic activity. For reference 2003-2006 manufacturing in small town Ontario…again in 2008 (the financial crises) , again in 2011( Oil prices crashing) and most certainly 2019-2021. Two things.
Politicians will make noise about the unemployment rate. Whether as a barb to score political points when it “high”…, or when it recovers to Pat themselves on the back and convince their blind loyal followers they are doing good…..They never talk about what data generates that rate ( just those looking for work and reporting to EI ) nor do they talk about the quality of work.
Statistical fact.
Following mass layoffs, people have mouths to feed, and bills to pay, EI or CERB only last so long (as well as what meagre savings they might have). The vast majority of people that get laid off, end up long term, in jobs that are far lower paying than the ones they lost…..Many never get back to where they were….An actual race to the bottom.
See above. And a mile long line of people looking for anything that will keep the wolves at bay…Or more accurately in this case, anything that will keep them afloat.
But politicians, the blind. They don’t see that. They point at “the unemployment rate”…oh, look at us, we’ve recovered 500,000 jobs. Or for those that think people are lazy, should be able to get “better” paying jobs….Bzzzz wrong. The stats say so, that’s not how it works.
“Good for you Chrystia, the only people you are fooling are your loyal followers and those that don’t follow economics. Woot woot, 900,000 good/decent jobs thrown overboard, replaced with 900,000 part timers, at McDonalds”…Plus or minus all those newcomers ( about 1.8million since 2018 or 4x 300k and 1x 500k ) looking for work, and a place to hang their hats…
And maybe also worth mentioning. Anywhere……..where there is……opportunity
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don’t let common sense and logic hurt your brain. And if you haven’t learned by now, do you not realize I don’t assert much unless I can back it up..
Such a fool. Hopefully I don’t have to waste much time on you and add a dozen studies links that you could exercise your brain finding/reading.
and 1 suffices. I’ll save you some technical headache. Skip to the good part.
Layoffs in Canada
could add more studies that look at wage losses by demographics ( age, class etc)
Hopefully don’t need to.
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Well if you engage Franky, you will soon learn all of this, is Doug Ford's doings...even the problems in Alberta and BC....don’t let common sense and logic hurt your brain. And if you haven’t learned by now, do you not realize I don’t assert much unless I can back it up..
Such a fool. Hopefully I don’t have to waste much time on you and add a dozen studies links that you could exceedyour brain finding/reading.
and 1 suffices
Layoffs in Canada
www150.statcan.gc.ca
You are amazing!
Do you even realize that you linked to an article about layoffs in 2007 that was written in 2010?
I love the fact that every time you try to find a source its something that's really old, irrelevant and very clear that you haven't read yourself.
And you call me a fool?
and Jack squat that supports that argument.
lmao. I’ll settle for two economists that agree with you……
Income Loss Persists Long After Layoffs (Published 2009)
It can take years for income to bounce back after a layoff, and even longer in a recession, if at all, economists say.
Edit hate doing this on a phone.
“Ford”
1) he is a politician, never forget that. He wants to wear the crown. What were the majority of red Toronto, everyone in healthcare screaming for?
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