Titanic Submersible

jcpro

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Few seconds before implosions the pression made their eardrums explode to the point of instant complete loss of consciousness. So when their bodies were smashed they were already dead.

What a complete waste of life and money. All while a boat filled with 600 migrants was left to themselves on the coast of Greece... No one to help those poor people.
An implosion moves at milliseconds. The human senses do not register anything at that speed. That's why I said that they had an easy death. One moment you're here and, not even in a blink, you're gone.
 
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jalimon

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An implosion moves at milliseconds. The human senses do not register anything at that speed. That's why I said that they had an easy death. One moment you're here and, not even in a blink, you're gone.
I saw a coverage from a medical expert who did confirm, with a computer model, that they were gone in a millisecond indeed. Yet he explain how they actually died a few second before the implosion as a human body cannot survive the pressure that eventually (few seconds) lead to implosion.
 
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johnd5050

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My thoughts are why raise taxes on rich when they hire tax lawyers
smarter than the tax lawyers that write the tax code so they can avoid taxes?
Find some way to stop tax avoidence

Another thought is you can only make the rich pay taxes to the point they
will take money offshore and to stop that seems impossible as you cannot
tell other counties what to do so you are forced to keep taxes low

Another thought is that it is not at all relevent the percentage of tax you pay
so the rich should stop whinning they pay to much. The only thing that matters
is what you got left


If you made the money by producing stuff and making society richer then you
deserve your wealth, it was your incentive to make society richer, that is human nature
When one gets richer simply because they got wealth and contribute nothing to socity that is wrong
Excellent summary of your thoughts.
Do you have any suggestions to reform the tax code ?
Maybe the middle class should get squeezed more for taxes to supplement the tax cheats and the government.
 

explorerzip

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The guys here are the "wanna be" rich guys.
I see the same guys posting reviews every other day.
I am happy for the wealthy guys who have assets and no debts in Toronto, which I seriously doubt.
The super rich invest money to make money, not spend it on MP, SC or escorts.
That is a wonderful happy ending. Maybe ??
My point went completely over your head.
 
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richaceg

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If I have that kind of money. I'd invest on a drone that could capture the titanic wreckage full HD wide in my living room with 2 of the best SPs for the full day or
 

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The newest in adventure tourism! All new experimental submersible takes you to BOTH the wreck of the Titanic and the debris of the Titan implosion! Two for the ridiculously exorbitant price of one🤑💰💰💰
 

John Wick

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The stresses and strengths of materials are well understood and routine engineering.
Designing a submersible that can descend to more than 35K feet is 'routine engineering'? And a guy like James Cameron who holds no post-secondary education in any discipline whatsoever, let alone engineering, would have enough understanding of complex stresses and strength of materials to design the vehicle himself? Sure, that could happen. C'mon man....really?
 

Zoot Allures

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a guy like James Cameron who holds no post-secondary education in any discipline whatsoever, let alone engineering, would have enough understanding of complex stresses and strength of materials to design the vehicle ?
Agree. But it has been reported, by non terbs, that adequate testing was never done after each dive checking for stress fatique.
 
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There's a grieving mother of a 19 year old who didn't even want to go. The US coast guard knew the outcome 4 days before oxygen ran out and they still had a 4 day futile search.
 
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The newest in adventure tourism! All new experimental submersible takes you to BOTH the wreck of the Titanic and the debris of the Titan implosion! Two for the ridiculously exorbitant price of one🤑💰💰💰
and you get to go in an exact replica of the Titan and place bet with Vegas. If you implode they keep money if you dont you win. It is international waters so you cannot stop them and desperate people would borrow against everything they own. Make a good reality show
 

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Agree. But it has been reported, by non terbs, that adequate testing was never done after each dive checking for stress fatique.
We're talking about a different submersible vehicle (Deepsea Challenger) that Cameron piloted to the bottom of the Trench, not specifically about the Titan
 

Robert Mugabe

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I understood Cameron was the submersible pilot, and took part in testing of the craft, but pretty sure he wasn't the brainchild behind the actual design, engineering and build of the craft. Very few people exist on the planet with those type of credentials.
Probably. I thought I heard him say he had a part in designing it. I could be wrong.
 

John Wick

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Probably. I thought I heard him say he had a part in designing it. I could be wrong.
I suspect he was a principal visionary in getting the initiative setup and moving forward, and provided a lot of what I would term 'end user input' all through the process. But the lead technical engineer was Ron Allum, an Aussie engineer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Allum
 
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shakenbake

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Designing a submersible that can descend to more than 35K feet is 'routine engineering'? And a guy like James Cameron who holds no post-secondary education in any discipline whatsoever, let alone engineering, would have enough understanding of complex stresses and strength of materials to design the vehicle himself? Sure, that could happen. C'mon man....really?
As an engineer, I concur with Danny’s comment. There are also many self-taught individuals who can put educated engineers to shame.
 

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As an engineer, I concur with Danny’s comment. There are also many self-taught individuals who can put educated engineers to shame.
Having worked in aerospace engineering at a very senior level for many many years, I'd say the instances of what you're talking about do occur, but typically in much less complex or sophisticated situations/contexts. Designing a bridge or designing a robotic assembly plant is very different from designing a space vehicle or a deep sea submersible.
 

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Having worked in aerospace engineering at a very senior level for many many years, I'd say the instances of what you're talking about do occur, but typically in much less complex or sophisticated situations/contexts. Designing a bridge or designing a robotic assembly plant is very different from designing a space vehicle or a deep sea submersible.
You are correct. However, we should not discount the possibility. My experiences are from working across many disciplines, academic, private sector and government, for the last 46 years. We might have even crossed paths at some point in time. 😀
 
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