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Frankfooter

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No I'm looking at it from a common sense political spectrum perspective. Since 2015 the city of Toronto has been governed from a centre to centre left ideology. And for 8 years prior to 2011 it was left wing kook Miller in power. Possibly the worst mayor of all time.
Miller's Transit City was the best transit plan for the last several decades.
Fully funded by the province, fully planned out and all set to go.

That was cancelled by the crackhead and his brother and he gave us a 100 year tax increase to pay for a $2 billion single subway station instead.
 

Anbarandy

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No I'm looking at it from a common sense political spectrum perspective. Since 2015 the city of Toronto has been governed from a centre to centre left ideology. And for 8 years prior to 2011 it was left wing kook Miller in power. Possibly the worst mayor of all time.
Your "common sense political spectrum perspective" is not only not factual, but also seriously askew.

Almost 20 years of Lastman. Rob Ford and John Tory's 0, 1 or 2% property tax increases that has led to underfunded city services, underfinanced state of good repair maintenance, underinvested infrastructure and most importantly fiscally irresponsible mismatching of revenue vs. quality of city life.

Not only has this created a decaying, decomposing city but also an unimaginable $46.5billion funding gap over the next 10 years.

That's quite a legacy of shame and disgrace and it all comes back to the horribly failed, fiscally shambolic policies of the center-right. right-wing majority on council and mayors.

If you are Torontonian, and vote for more of the same, you should have your head examined.
 
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ogibowt

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No I'm looking at it from a common sense political spectrum perspective. Since 2015 the city of Toronto has been governed from a centre to centre left ideology. And for 8 years prior to 2011 it was left wing kook Miller in power. Possibly the worst mayor of all time.
dougie ..im surprised you didnt look further down the line.....to righties John Sewell may of been the worst...
 

K Douglas

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Tory is right wing.
Maybe from your perspective since you are extreme left. But in reality his policies have been centre to centre left. Largely because he has to placate the lefties on council. Here's the council makeup of Tory's first term in office

I count 10 councilors who can be considered right leaning - Crisanti, Ford, Holyday, Nunziata, Minnan-Wong, Crawford, Thompson, Carmichael-Greb, Shiner and DiGiorgio
I count 6 who I'd consider moderate centrists - Pasternak, Bailao, Burnside, Berardinetti, Kelly and Ainslie
The rest are left wing - 28 out of 44 or 64% of council.
 
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K Douglas

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dougie ..im surprised you didnt look further down the line.....to righties John Sewell may of been the worst...
I became a resident of Toronto in 2001. Sewell was before my time. I know little to nothing about the man.
 

ogibowt

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I became a resident of Toronto in 2001. Sewell was before my time. I know little to nothing about the man.
but Dougie you described Miller as the worst mayor of all time.....your words............not the worst of your time living here..............i called you out..hope thats fair
 

K Douglas

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Your "common sense political spectrum perspective" is not only not factual, but also seriously askew.

Almost 20 years of Lastman. Rob Ford and John Tory's 0, 1 or 2% property tax increases that has led to underfunded city services, underfinanced state of good repair maintenance, underinvested infrastructure and most importantly fiscally irresponsible mismatching of revenue vs. quality of city life.

Not only has this created a decaying, decomposing city but also an unimaginable $46.5billion funding gap over the next 10 years.

That's quite a legacy of shame and disgrace and it all comes back to the horribly failed, fiscally shambolic policies of the center-right. right-wing majority on council and mayors.

If you are Torontonian, and vote for more of the same, you should have your head examined.
Property tax increases under John Tory
2015 2.75%
2016 1.30%
2017 2.50%
2018 2.10%
2019 3.58%
2020 4.24%
2021 0.70%
2022 4.40%
2023 7.00%
AVG 3.17%

You can't argue that Tory's increases were too low and that's why we have underfunded city services. There are underfunded city services because left wing kooky policies have driven businesses out of the city.
 

K Douglas

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but Dougie you described Miller as the worst mayor of all time.....your words............not the worst of your time living here..............i called you out..hope thats fair
OK fair enough. The worst mayor since I've been in the city. But still I can't imagine that Sewell could have been worse than Miller, since he only had two years to inflict his damage.
 

dvous11

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Property tax increases under John Tory
2015 2.75%
2016 1.30%
2017 2.50%
2018 2.10%
2019 3.58%
2020 4.24%
2021 0.70%
2022 4.40%
2023 7.00%
AVG 3.17%

You can't argue that Tory's increases were too low and that's why we have underfunded city services. There are underfunded city services because left wing kooky policies have driven businesses out of the city.
What’s the prediction for tax hike percentage if Chow gets in?
 

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Anbarandy

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Property tax increases under John Tory
2015 2.75%
2016 1.30%
2017 2.50%
2018 2.10%
2019 3.58%
2020 4.24%
2021 0.70%
2022 4.40%
2023 7.00%
AVG 3.17%

You can't argue that Tory's increases were too low and that's why we have underfunded city services. There are underfunded city services because left wing kooky policies have driven businesses out of the city.
I'm sorry, but the actual annual property tax plus the Building Fund Levy increased by an average of 2.23%/year over the total of Tory's 9 budgets.

Now, when removing the Building Fund Levy of 1.5%, because it is not a property tax supported levy that is directed to the city's operational budget for city services, but directed solely to it's capital budget, then the actual average property tax increases to support operational city services drops to 1.5%.

So yes, hell yes Tory certainly did underfund the City of Toronto's operational budget which is directed towards city services over his miserly 2 and 1/8th terms.

Especially appalling as the city's population grew substantially over that time and Tory's operational budgets did not meet the needs of an ever-expanding city, did not account for inflationary growth and did not meet the basics for the quality of life of it's citizens, all of which continued the decay and decomposition of the city started by Mel Lastman, hyper-driven by Rob Ford, for nine effin years and driven to the fiscal and financial abyss by Tory.
 
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fearoffomo

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Maybe from your perspective since you are extreme left. But in reality his policies have been centre to centre left. Largely because he has to placate the lefties on council. Here's the council makeup of Tory's first term in office
It must be hard going through life being this stupid.

Tory didn't placate to the left leaning councillors on council. He basically stacked all the important positions on council, like committees, with right leaning ass kissers so that left leaning councillors barely had a voice at all.

There's nothing "left" about cutting services year over year by under funding them through keeping property taxes at or below inflation.

The only centrist thing about Tory is that he would try and come across as being socially progressive. Talk is cheap however. You can talk about how great equity and inclusion is but if you go on to starve the programs that help marginalized communities live better lives, all that talk means nothing.
 
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Anbarandy

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It must be hard going through life being this stupid.

Tory didn't placate to the left leaning councillors on council. He basically stacked all the important positions on council, like committees, with right leaning ass kissers so that left leaning councillors barely had a voice at all.

There's nothing "left" about cutting services year over year by under funding them through keeping property taxes at or below inflation.

The only centrist thing about Tory is that he would try and come across as being socially progressive. Talk is cheap however. You can talk about how great equity and inclusion is but if you go on to starve the programs that help marginalized communities live a better lives, all that talk means nothing.
Out of the 44 councilors and 1 mayor on Kirk's Wiki link list, I count:

1) 20 hardcore right-wing councilors, all from the inner suburbs and 1 right-wing mayor all of whom always voted as a block except on Tory's stupid "jets at Toronto Island airport" and his right-wing "privatizing all of Toronto's solid waste services". And the only reason why these right-wing assholes lost those 2 votes was because their constituents rose up, gave them a mass earful of shit and promised it would be their last terms as councilors.
2) 10 left leaning councilors.
3) 14 centrist councilors whose votes swung depending on the issues and council vote

I remember the council votes. All the right-wing needed was 2 centrists to join them, while the left needed to convince 13 centrists.

That's how we got these repeated and continuous below inflation property tax increases; a $3billion dollar Scarborugh white elephant subway; a going on to $2billion eastern end of the Gardiner move a few meters north; a scrapping of a fully provincially funded Toronto wide mass transit plan; a decaying a decomposing city ........
 
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Darts

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Get ready for a lefty mayor and much higher taxes and endless debates on street signs.
 

Anbarandy

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Nothing wrong with keeping taxes low. People are already paying through the roof for houses and mortgages what with all the interest rate hikes and you want to jack up property taxes too? In the wake of a possible (some would argue ongoing) recession when jobs are tenuous? What you want people to end up on the streets? This is why left wing nonsense never makes anyone's life better. It is all about "feel good" initiatives and the only people paying for it are the citizens in the form of increased taxation.
So, just who is going to pay for:

a) the $223million budget shortfall for the fiscal year 2022?
b) the $1.2billion budget shortfall in this fiscal year of 2023?
c) for the $46.5billion budgetary shortfall over the next 10 years?

Still believing in the fallacy and failure of right-wing city council and mayoralty rule that we have had for the last consecutive 13 years that caused this mess?

Gotta love these alternate-universe, willfully misinformed, fallacy and ideologically based voters.
 
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Darts

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A major problem is that the City is cursed with closed shop bidding. This means the labour buddies of our lefty friends make off like bandits with no competition for contracts.
 
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