Toronto Mayoral Candidates
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They resort to these robocalls in the home stretch.I got one from John Tory for Ana Bailao
Is it legal to mass robocalls political endorsement?
You don't know your ward or former ward councilor Justin Di Ciano very well.
He served on council for 1 term from Dec 2014 - Dec 2018. Rob Ford served from Nov 2010 -Nov 2014. They were never in the same council/mayoral term together.
Please tell us how many times and on which council votes did he vote with "left leaning councilors" against Ford?
Wait you aren't required to answer that question, because we already have the answer. ZERO times.
When I look at which council members are left, center, right or any other derivative thereof, I look at their voting record. On regarding your list above, they voted with John Tory and his center-right agenda the vast, vast majority of the time.
Jon Burnside, John Campbell, Norm Kelly, Jim Hart are/were as centrist as Rob Ford was a left-wing radical.
Mitzi Hunter is a good choice.
Hope you are aware that she has stated she champions a 6% property tax increase for her first proposed budget which kind of blows your "low tax because people are financially struggling with affordability" narrative to smithereens.
But, but .... won't that make life so unaffordable for the millions of Torontonians struggling with affordability, drive business and investment out of the city and cause fear and panic throughout the boundaries of Toronto?
And what about all these multi-property residential investors, who have monetized housing for their own personal greed, won't they be doubly, triply, quadropoly, nthly traumatized?
If you want more John Tory then Ana is your choice.
Nobody else is willing to do DoFo's work for him.
I misspoke meant to say Tory. However Rob Ford was a councilor for all of 2015 before his passing in 2016. His nephew Mike took over his seat on council in 2016 and voted the same way.
Voting record is only one thing to look at because many of the votes are for items that are generally of a non partisan nature.
Bottom line is that I proved that your methodology is flawed that there weren't close to 20 hardcore righties on Council from 2014-2018. Care to look at 2018-2022 next?
Olivia Chow is very likely to be the next Mayor of Toronto and it isn't going to be close. The downtown progressives have flocked in droves to the early polls while the burbs have trickled in.
I don't see total voter turnout being much more than it was in the fall of 2022.
I don't see total voter turnout being much more than it was in the fall of 2022.
You didn't "misspoke", you tried to narrate that Justin Di Ciano as a left-wing ideologue who voted 'opposed to' Rob Ford's council voting issues. When called out, you did a Wiki search to whitewash your narrative.
I didn't look at voting records regarding minor issues, such as "Joe's patio wants to add an extras 2 square meters of space", which are the most prolific type of issues voted on in council, but on major issues. And the record is clear, the councilors that I listed voted as center-right/right-wing the majority of the time.
I did not state anywhere that this center-right/right-wing voting bloc that dominated city council were all hardcore wingers, you just formulated it in your mind that I did, because it did not fit your narrative, which is nonsense by the way.
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No I misspoke. And I never tried to portray Di Ciano as a left wing idealogue. I just said that he voted with the left wing councilors on several occasions. As you can see here he did. He was also absent for votes quite frequently.
Toronto City Council Scorecard, Updated September 19, 2018
You said there were 20 hardcore right wingers on council (out of 44). I showed you that several of your picks were just wrong. Toronto is a lib left city it would be impossible to have even half of council be centre right to right wing.
I think the anyone but Chow vote has been waiting for the frontrunner to appear. And so will be voting on Monday.
Chow is polling pretty much where she did the first time around. And that may be close to her ceiling. The polling doesn't take into account nor tell really the percentage of undecided, which in this election I think isi bigger than normal.
I guess person's opinions of left/right/center and all of the other labels a person attaches to a politician and his leanings/votes depends on where on the political spectrum that person resides.No I misspoke. And I never tried to portray Di Ciano as a left wing idealogue. I just said that he voted with the left wing councilors on several occasions. As you can see here he did. He was also absent for votes quite frequently.
Toronto City Council Scorecard, Updated September 19, 2018
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You said there were 20 hardcore right wingers on council (out of 44). I showed you that several of your picks were just wrong. Toronto is a lib left city it would be impossible to have even half of council be centre right to right wing.
That said, though I don't agree with you, I applaud your knowledge of City of Toronto politics, which I find is very rare on this board.
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You are displaying a lot of faith on but a few hours on but one day.
They don't call you The BUT-ler in vain I note.
The anger/panic from DoFo, PeePee and Ana B only cements the fact that Chow is the candidate for change.
Saunders is a charlatan. And while I agree he would be a better choice than Chow, he's pretty much another Tory. Remember this guy was the head of the TPS when it was being dismantled and what did the coward do - he left his post 8 months before his contract expired. The going got tough and he got going. Weak leadership.
I will be sticking with my original choice Blake Acton, a former police officer who has integrity. No more bike lanes on major arteries and a return to law and order in the city.
I appreciate the compliment. Yes it does seem these days that the political spectrum is partially dependent upon one's personal opinion. You can see that with Vote Compass as it is clear that whoever designed that platform had a left wing bias. For example here is where I would put selected city councilors on the political spectrum
Far left - Gord Perks, Paula Fletcher
Left - Mary Fragedakis, Kristyn Wong-Tam
Centre left - Josh Colle, Maria Augimeri
Centre- Ron Moeser, Ana Bailao
Centre right - Denzil Minnan-Wong, David Shiner
Right - Rob Ford, Stephen Holyday
Far right - no one
Your opinion on his board has about as much worth as a Zimbabwean dollar.
