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Where were the Jays concerning LGBTQ a few years ago ? Or Bud Light or Target or anyone else that is now
LGBTQ friendly?

They were silent but it has become good for business to be LGBTQ friendly so they jump on the bandwagon,
and then THEY BURY BASS FOR QUOTING THE BIBLE. Bass has a right to state his non violent opinion
even if you do not agree. If Bass thinks they demoted him for stating an opinion that is politically
incorrect then he should sue

HYPOCRITES
Before making posts like this you should learn how baseball rosters and contracts work. You clearly do not. Who exactly would you have demoted to keep Bass around?

This was a baseball decision that was made easier by.Bass performance on the field and his inability to go more than an inning. If you are claiming this was not a baseball decision why didn’t the Jays designate him earlier when he made his transgressions? Why was it only done to accommodate a necessary player move?

The Jays called up Mitch White because they needed some length out of the pen with Manoah out. Do you not understand the implications of playing a few bullpen day gamrs, and having too many 1 inning relievers like Bass?

Mitch White 30 day rehab stint was nearly over. At that point he MUST get called up or placed on waivers. Do you not understand what a 30 day rehab stint implies after a 60 day DL stint?

Mitch White is not really good. Neither is Bass. But at least White serves a role that the Jays currently need .. a reliever who can multiple inings.. .. a low leverage reliever like Bass who can’t go multiple innings does not serve a role right now.

If you are the Jays who do you demote instead of Bass?

What team would spend 3m this year and next, to claim Bass?

What exactly is Bass going to sue for? He is going to get his full contract this year even if released plus the 1m buyout next year. He does not get any money withheld .. so again what is the basis for his lawsuit?

since nobody claimed him off waivers is he also going to sue MLB? Hard to argue that when a team can find a replacement player level at $600,000 that will do just as well as Bass at $3,000,000. When you suck on the field, and it’s easy to argue the decisions to demote / not claim you how the hell can you sue.. especially when the team kept you around until you were demoted because a baseball decision needed to be made.

But please tell us what baseball decision would have been smarter for the Jays than demoting Bass?
 
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Where were the Jays concerning LGBTQ a few years ago ? Or Bud Light or Target or anyone else that is now
LGBTQ friendly?

They were silent but it has become good for business to be LGBTQ friendly so they jump on the bandwagon,
and then THEY BURY BASS FOR QUOTING THE BIBLE. Bass has a right to state his non violent opinion
even if you do not agree. If Bass thinks they demoted him for stating an opinion that is politically
incorrect then he should sue

HYPOCRITES
Wont work because Jays will just claim he was released because of poor pitching performance (which is partially true).

Other then that I agree with your post, players should never have to apologize for their beliefs
 
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Before making posts like this you should learn how baseball rosters and contracts work. You clearly do not. Who exactly would you have demoted to keep Bass around?

This was a baseball decision that was made easier by.Bass performance on the field and his inability to go more than an inning. If you are claiming this was not a baseball decision why didn’t the Jays designate him earlier when he made his transgressions? Why was it only done to accommodate a necessary player move?

The Jays called up Mitch White because they needed some length out of the pen with Manoah out. Do you not understand the implications of playing a few bullpen day gamrs, and having too many 1 inning relievers like Bass?

Mitch White 30 day rehab stint was nearly over. At that point he MUST get called up or placed on waivers. Do you not understand what a 30 day rehab stint implies after a 60 day DL stint?

Mitch White is not really good. Neither is Bass. But at least White serves a role that the Jays currently need .. a reliever who can multiple inings.. .. a low leverage reliever like Bass who can’t go multiple innings does not serve a role right now.

If you are the Jays who do you demote instead of Bass?

What team would spend 3m this year and next, to claim Bass?

What exactly is Bass going to sue for? He is going to get his full contract this year even if released plus the 1m buyout next year. He does not get any money withheld .. so again what is the basis for his lawsuit?

since nobody claimed him off waivers is he also going to sue MLB? Hard to argue that when a team can find a replacement player level at $600,000 that will do just as well as Bass at $3,000,000. When you suck on the field, and it’s easy to argue the decisions to demote / not claim you how the hell can you sue.. especially when the team kept you around until you were demoted because a baseball decision needed to be made.

But please tell us what baseball decision would have been smarter for the Jays than demoting Bass?
Well Mitch White was absolutely getting destroyed in buffalo and he got lit up today. This move wouldn't be questioned if he was at least performing to some level of competency.

 

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Rumor is the players arent happy how Schneider, Atkins and Shapiro treated Bass, and now there's a rift in the clubhouse
 
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Well Mitch White was absolutely getting destroyed in buffalo and he got lit up today. This move wouldn't be questioned if he was at least performing to some level of competency.

Its not like Anthony Bass was performing or trusted either.

Here are the facts:
1. Mitch White either had to be called up or placed on waivers -- and he would have certainly been claimed on waivers given his minimum contract of $743,000. There was no third alternative such as placing him on Buffalo. Given that the Jays needed a long reliever it was logical to not waive him and give him a shot and hope he figures it out.
2. Anthony Bass was not going to get claimed with $4m left on his contract (whether the Jays consider bringing him back after 10 days)
3. The Jays needed relievers with length due to Manoah's issues.,

Analyzing it by looking at what White did today, or even before doesn't really make sense. Yes White sort of stinks, but so does Bass, and White makes more sense for the next 10 days and is a waiver risk unlike Bass.
 

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Well Mitch White was absolutely getting destroyed in buffalo and he got lit up today. This move wouldn't be questioned if he was at least performing to some level of competency.

Taking the politics purely out of it though, the lack of organizational depth the Jays have in their pitching ranks is a real issue for them. White is bad, Bass is bad, and the other alternatives are bad.
They are lucky they really have not had any injuries in the starting rotation, and only limited injuries in their pen.
 

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but Richards can go more innings which they need since they will be going with some bullpen starts the rest of the mo
He pitched 3 solid innings tonight.
 

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Where were the Jays concerning LGBTQ a few years ago ?

They were silent but it has become good for business to be LGBTQ friendly so they jump on the bandwagon,
Where were you? The Jays have been having Pride Weekend for 4 or 5 years now. You just noticed now? Is it now just because you support Bass' opinion?

THEY BURY BASS FOR QUOTING THE BIBLE. Bass has a right to state his non violent opinion
even if you do not agree. If Bass thinks they demoted him for stating an opinion that is politically
incorrect then he should sue
He exercised his right. However he is a Blue Jays employee and if he is publicly saying things that the team feels do not represent their views they also have a right to deal with him as they see fit. Keep in mind that Atkins has stated that the demotion was mainly performance related, and only minorly due to the comments.

Bass is a self-consumed asshole. It was a short while ago that he felt the need to complain on social media that a flight crew made his wife clean up a horrendous mess their kids made on a flight. God forbid that he and/or his family be held accountable for their actions. The outrage.

HYPOCRITES
They've taken stands on social issues before. They dumped Osuna's ass pretty quick.
 
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Rumor is the players arent happy how Schneider, Atkins and Shapiro treated Bass, and now there's a rift in the clubhouse
Where'd you hear that from? What is your source for these rumours?

That sounds like BS. Something that trump would say in a debate. Totally unsubstantiated.
 

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Where were the Jays concerning LGBTQ a few years ago ? Or Bud Light or Target or anyone else that is now LGBTQ friendly?
Hatred of the LGBTQ community runs deep on this board. The reality is The Gay Pride parade is a big money maker for this city...money talks, Mein Kampf walks.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence, Anthony Bass has the IQ of a snow pea. He broke the cardinal rule, never embarrass your employer. An apology doesn't cut if it's not sincere. He has a sharp sense of entitlement, first the airplane incident, now this, hopefully the Giants pick him up.

The ecstasy of hatred.

 
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Where did you come across this rumor? Because without legit sources, it's just that...a rumor

From the front office to the communications strategy surrounding Bass’ rather prominent anti-LGBQT+ stance, the team has handled it abysmally and the players in the clubhouse are not pleased as a result.

Not everyone on the team appreciated Bass’ attention-seeking social media activity this season that has been a nuisance on more than one occasion. But that doesn’t mean some weren’t thrilled with the way Bass was left to wither in front of the media on Thursday, an appearance in which he stuck to his beliefs prompting his swift dismissal the following day.
 
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He exercised his right. However he is a Blue Jays employee and if he is publicly saying things that the team feels do not represent their views they also have a right to deal with him as they see fit.
By that logic, if Bass supported Mark Saunders for Toronto mayor and the Blue Jay organization supported Olivia Chow should they have the right to discipline him for that?
 

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By that logic, if Bass supported Mark Saunders for Toronto mayor and the Blue Jay organization supported Olivia Chow should they have the right to discipline him for that?
No because it's not hate speech. Although he could not voye in a Canadian election, Gibby supported Harper.
 
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From the front office to the communications strategy surrounding Bass’ rather prominent anti-LGBQT+ stance, the team has handled it abysmally and the players in the clubhouse are not pleased as a result.

Not everyone on the team appreciated Bass’ attention-seeking social media activity this season that has been a nuisance on more than one occasion. But that doesn’t mean some weren’t thrilled with the way Bass was left to wither in front of the media on Thursday, an appearance in which he stuck to his beliefs prompting his swift dismissal the following day.
ehhh...kind of a murky article on what really happened. I also love how it's "Imagine what Vlad.Jr's agent is thinking". Really?? You aware of his current numbers?? His numbers right now are very pedestrian and that might generous.
 

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ehhh...kind of a murky article on what really happened. I also love how it's "Imagine what Vlad.Jr's agent is thinking". Really?? You aware of his current numbers?? His numbers right now are very pedestrian and that might generous
Vladdy is having an off-year. That often happens to young players.
If the Jays were hesitant about signing Vladdy long-term I guarantee you there would huge lineup of other MLB teams ready to sign him.

BTW Jays are 0-2 since the release of Bass
 
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The video Bass liked was a boycott on Target for selling provocative clothing for underage little kids. How is that hate speech??

https://nypost.com/2023/05/28/target-loses-10b-following-boycott-calls-over-lgbtq-friendly-clothing/
Filippo if you're going to make a point use actual newspapers not tabloids. Corporations have been sexualizing children for decades, it was part of the manufactured Madonna phenomenon, huge profits were made. The GOP could have defended the rights of children for the last 40 years, they went along with it for money and power. Now that companies like Budweiser and Target are promoting human rights, they take exception, don't confuse the two. Unless you have concrete proof that pedophilia is rife in the LGBTQ community.

Who actually defended the rights of children, the GOPs Great Satan herself: Hillary Rodham Clinton.
 
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Bass did exactly what Blue Jay brass asked of him to make amends. Bass was even willing to submit to simulated sexual submission innuendo as "catcher" to a gay activist "pitcher" last Friday which Blue Jay brass thought might appease. They likely figured it's a popular fantasy for gay men to want to fuck a hetero- especially a Christian. There was backlash instead that the PR stunt proposed was mocking the lgbts.

So Bass did everything that was asked of him to bend the knee and was fired anyway.
 
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