"I don't want more interventions than are necessary" is perfectly anodyne and is what every single person on all sides of the debate say they are in favor of.
What model are you actually suggesting people follow?
Its offical : Transphobia is here to stay!
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What model are you actually suggesting people follow?
No. They are some, and I even have them as friends, who actually think it should be diagnosed and started before puberty. Its how this came about because of my gay friends commented and posted about this. And the fights started. With memes posted about this opinion is an attempt to divide the LBGTQ community to hurt it.
And Trans people who support this view being labeled "gender traitors". And right wing. Believe me they aren't.
I'm not kidding. I think with some trans people they actually have an agenda this will mainstream it and will promote it just to gain attention and "new" recruits to justify their own decisions.
Yes its an easy common sense opinion I posted. And its being attacked in the public sphere as homophobic. That's the point.
Wait.
The existence of trans people is an attempt to divide the LBGTQ community?
Or the existence of gender affirming treatment?
You have to clarify that because that is just weird the way you've phrased it.
What is "this opinion" here?
That being trans should be "diagnosed" (interesting medicalization jargon there) before puberty?
What view?
That it should be "diagnosed"?
That gender affirming care should exist?
That Watchful waiting is more appropriate?
What?
That's some batshit paranoia you have going there.
Right to "the transgender recruitment agenda" I see.
Why do you think this?
Just because some people disagree with you about treatment options?
How is your incredibly boring and uncontroversial opinion being attacked as homophobic?
Oh wait... your opinion is actually this one?
" In the case of kids and adolescents its wrong to start puberty blocking or make any diagnosis at that age. "
This is the opinion you claim the gay people you know support?
And you wonder why people are giving you side-eye?
Let's break this down then...
What is an adolescent to you?
What is a "diagnosis" to you?
Wow. Im just so indifferent to this post. Go back and try again. Its quite clear.
What you have to realize is that the suicide rates for those who identify themselves as transgenders is very high as I stated in one of my previous posts. How do you come up with that false statement that one is filling the heads of kids with "false diagnosis". You are no expert in that respect, and these kids need proper guidance and counselling to live their normal lives without harassment and bullying. The ones coming up with extremes are the likes of MTG and her QAnon Conspiracy theories where she labels the Democrats as "pedophiles". The majority of parents that comets realize that their kids are not going to change their habits are the ones that want some sort of adaptations to their children needs. In fact the hospitals do not carry out any procedures on minors except those around 16 years of age or so where the parents are the ones pushing for it as they want their children to have their choice of being transgenders!!
Not about shaming JC, but he is a bit hypocritical in the manner in which he is bashing these transgenders procedures etc based on a false pretext. Those pre-ops with boobs are a transgenders choice when they reach the age of consent. The Republicans and someone like Trump at the helm actual passed laws discriminating against these transexuals in the military and other armed forces. The fact is that a sizeable section of the Republicans just want them banned altogether if they can get their way with it. But equating these killings by blaming the mental minds of the transgenders is despicable. Again the surgery and hormones are a choice for the transgenders and not yours or mine. If they are minors and the parents push for such procedures and medications as they feel that otherwise the mental state of their child makes them suicidal then in those extenuating circumstances they will give their consent. Why are the right politicizing it?
Lay off the kids for christs sake.....
This sums up why the right wingers are all for anti-transgender rights:
www.theguardian.com
Yes, they love the transphobic rhetoric by an Indicted criminal of an individual!!
Anti-trans rhetoric took center stage at CPAC amid hostile Republican efforts
Republicans are pursuing a barrage of new restrictions related to healthcare and human rights for transgender people
www.theguardian.com
Yes, they love the transphobic rhetoric by an Indicted criminal of an individual!!
As I said. Its fellow LGBTQ who are questioning it. From the standpoint of personal experiences.
These people need to be locked away....What madness.
You may have a handful of them that were wrongly treated. But that does not mean that the vast majority of LGBTQ do not appreciate the present status and their freedoms to decide their own destination in life!!
You really didn't read anything I said did you?
Here.....
Members of the gay community are speaking up saying that people saying they are trans as youths may well just be confused and gay. That they may be mistaking simple feminine traits in men as gender disphoria when they are just plain ol' gay. And that its better to wait until adulthood when they have had a chance to experience sex and life before going so far as to prescribe puberty blockers and hormones which will make things worse.
As well it should be noted the surgery does pretty much sterilize people. And is irreversible. So far better to wait and get it right.
So it has nothing to do with gay rights or status. Its about common sense. Coming from people who have been there.
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