In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

basketcase

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Here's their most recent polling on that specific topic.
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Why (other than the obvious racism) would you reject A Two State peace because it only has 33% support while still pushing a farce supported by only 23% of Palestinians (and why you think Palestinians will accept being forced into it)..


p.s. Still waiting for an explanation on why you consider Israel shooting back and killing 8 armed gunmen is a massacre but killing a bunch of Jews walking out of a synagogue is just "an expected response"? Why can't you even admit that the attack at the synagogue was terrorism?
 

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Good post, but way too nuanced for this discussion.
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By nuanced you mean ridiculous? Of course you like it mainly because it dives into clearly antisemitic tropes by claiming AIPAC is not a lobby group made up of Americans but is rather a "foreign influence operation".

Keep pushing the racist idea of Jews controlling America for nefarious purposes while also pretending to condemn the Holocaust.
 

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Why (other than the obvious racism) would you reject A Two State peace because it only has 33% support while still pushing a farce supported by only 23% of Palestinians (and why you think Palestinians will accept being forced into it)..
The two state would have been best, but that plan is dead.
Killed by settlements and your and Israeli attitudes that say you'd never give the land back.
The one state apartheid solution is already here and sanctions and divestment will end apartheid like it did in South Africa.

As you said:
There should be a negotiated two state peace but there is no giving "back" land.
Which means there will never be a two state solution.


p.s. Still waiting for an explanation on why you consider Israel shooting back and killing 8 armed gunmen is a massacre but killing a bunch of Jews walking out of a synagogue is just "an expected response"? Why can't you even admit that the attack at the synagogue was terrorism?
I'm still waiting for you to check the threads. I told I posted on that when it happened last week.
Do your homework, otherwise you sound just like shack with demands that you will never accept have been met.
 

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By nuanced you mean ridiculous? Of course you like it mainly because it dives into clearly antisemitic tropes by claiming AIPAC is not a lobby group made up of Americans but is rather a "foreign influence operation".

Keep pushing the racist idea of Jews controlling America for nefarious purposes while also pretending to condemn the Holocaust.
AIPAC should register under FARA.

Speaking of polls, 76% of Arabs identify Palestinian resistance as their cause. 56 years into the occupation.

And 40% of Americans think what you support and Israel is doing to Palestinians is like Germany. So much for 'never again'.

The world is recognizing Israeli apartheid and the occupation for what it is.
And still you and Israel have no clue and no plan other than giving out more guns to settlers.
 

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next on anti-jewish terrorism files....



(January 30, 2023 / JNS) Sixty-eight percent of antisemitic discourse on social media originates from Palestinian or pro-Palestinian progressive circles, a report presented by Israeli Minister of Diaspora Affairs Amichai Chikli shows.

The report was presented at the weekly Cabinet meeting on Sunday, in conjunction with International Holocaust Remembrance Day. It provides a comprehensive analysis of the state of antisemitism in the Diaspora, including data on the number and geographic distribution of incidents.

68% of online antisemitism comes from Palestinians or progressives - JNS.org






 

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The two state would have been best, but that plan is dead.
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Yes, killed by repeated rejections by Arafat and Abbas and Hamas' refusal to discuss peace.

But I notice that you proudly reject a Two State peace because only 33% of Palestinians support it while demanding a One State peace that only 23% support. Just makes it more evident that your only interest is harm to Israeli jews.
 

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AIPAC should register under FARA.
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And more antisemitism claiming that because those Americans are Jewish they must be putting Israel's welfare ahead of their own country.



Speaking of polls, 76% of Arabs identify Palestinian resistance as their cause. 56 years into the occupation.
And you think that a huge amount of Palestinians thinking violence is a solution is a good thing?


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Instead of trying to pretend racist violence is a solution, how about pushing "both sides' to engage in meaningful negotiations under the UN and Arab league?


p.s. According to many Palestinians it's 104 years into the Jewish occupation.
 

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And more antisemitism claiming that because those Americans are Jewish they must be putting Israel's welfare ahead of their own country.




And you think that a huge amount of Palestinians thinking violence is a solution is a good thing?


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Instead of trying to pretend racist violence is a solution, how about pushing "both sides' to engage in meaningful negotiations under the UN and Arab league?


p.s. According to many Palestinians it's 104 years into the Jewish occupation.
There have been no peace talks for a decade. Two decades of 'peace talks' before that produced only 'facts on the ground'.
You call BDS 'terrorism'.
You are against going to the UN.
You support shooting Palestinians when they protest.

And then you're surprised when they turn to their right to self defence against an illegal occupation and support violent resistance?
 

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There have been no peace talks for a decade. ...
Hard to have peace talks when the PA doesn't want to engage and when Hamas rejects the concept.

And then you're surprised when they turn to their right to self defence against an illegal occupation and support violent resistance?
And then you go back to promoting terrorism and violence instead of pushing for both sides engage in talks.

Sorry but "armed attacks Israeli civilians inside Israel" as supported by 50% of Palestinians polled are not " their right to self defence ".
 

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Hard to have peace talks when the PA doesn't want to engage and when Hamas rejects the concept.



And then you go back to promoting terrorism and violence instead of pushing for both sides engage in talks.

Sorry but "armed attacks Israeli civilians inside Israel" as supported by 50% of Palestinians polled are not " their right to self defence ".
Is there a reason why you used an old poll, a partial quote and no links, basketcase?

You didn't want to link to the more recent poll:
(5) Palestinian-Israeli Relations, the Peace process, and the decision to go to ICJ:

10 years no peace talks but 3 attacks on Gaza and somehow you're surprised that armed resistance to the illegal occupation you back is gaining popularity.
You really can't link settler colonialism, apartheid and the illegal occupation to the anger of the native population, can you?

The solution is easy if you really want peace.
End the occupation or end apartheid.
 

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how will this help the Palestinian people?




A mobile Jewish education and social services center in New York City was vandalized Thursday evening with the word “Palestine,” three months after an almost-nearly identical incident at the same location.

The “Mitzvah Tank” which is operated by the Chabad Jewish movement was parked Broadway Avenue in New York’s SoHo district when it was vandalized. The New York City Police Department is investigating and reviewing video surveillance.

On Nov. 1, the same Mitzvah Tank at the same location was also vandalized with the word “Palestine”

A Mitzvah Tank is a vehicle used by Chabad to educate the public about Judaism and provide social services such as feeding the poor.

“Our Mitzvah Tank was once again hatefully vandalized,” said Chabad Rabbi Yehuda Pevzner on Twitter. “@NYPD detectives are investigating and we hope that this case is taken very seriously. For more information, please reach out to info@mitzvahtank.nyc #LoLefached”

“Whenever darkness strikes we realize we need to work even harder to light up the world,” Pevzner told The Algemeiner.

More antisemitic incidents were recorded in New York than in any other state, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reported in April, noting that it tallied 416, which “accounted for an astounding 15 percent of the total reported antisemitic incidents across the country.”

 

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Is there a reason why you used an old poll, a partial quote and no links, basketcase?
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Back to that bullshit again? The polling I posted was the actual questions from the poll you mentioned.

But whatever excuse you need to avoid admitting that some Palestinians support terrorism.
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franky defending an anti-jewish hate crime vandalism
You're pushing antisemitic tropes, according basketcase's definition.
Claiming criticism of Israel is an attack on the Jewish people is antisemitism.

Besides, more than 2/3's of Canadians share my views.

 

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How is that anti Jewish? It’s demonstrably pro Palestinian. It doesn’t say anything negative about Jews.

so you have no problem spray painting "FREE IRAN" on Shia Mosques?
 

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You're pushing antisemitic tropes, according basketcase's definition.
Claiming criticism of Israel is an attack on the Jewish people is antisemitism.

Besides, more than 2/3's of Canadians share my views.




franky's defense of terrorism and ant-semitic crimes





justifying terrorists attacks against israeli and jewish civilians












supports the anti-jewish vandalizing of a business owned by a Jewish man and making excuses for it



promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the region.






apologist for hamas the terror group






defending the PLFP terror group



defends hamas claiming that it is islamophobic to call hamas terrrorists




defending an anti-semitic terror supporting rally




defending a terrorist attack against a security guard(security guards are civilians)

 
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