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Jordan Peterson says Ontario psychologist licence may be suspended over public statements

WyattEarp

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He won't do remedial training when he can make a ton of cash crying censorship.

Frank, you always post external material that neither enlightens or adds anything new to the conversation. What are we to suppose to get from this bland and unspecific missive from the College of Psychologists?
 

WyattEarp

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That's why I asked earlier if he was misrepresenting the case against him.
It's a no-brainer for him to milk it as censorship - that's what his fan base wants.
Losing his license costs him nothing and fighting the OCP gains him a lot - so he will do that.

You can read the decision here by downloading the pdf.
That can all be true and the College of Psychologists can also be overreaching.
 
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Public servants in Tory Blue Ontario are now putting pronouns on their email sigs and apologizing for living on Hadenosaunee land. The woke is not not only mainstream, but centre-right mainstream.
That's worrisome. There are always some people who try to go along to get along. I don't think I necessarily want that characteristic in our politicians.
 
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dirtyharry555

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Don't mistaken decadence for progress.
Except we're not the ones who are out of date and falling behind.

Public servants in Tory Blue Ontario are now putting pronouns on their email sigs and apologizing for living on Hadenosaunee land. The woke is not not only mainstream, but centre-right mainstream.

Only the PPC - with its 5% of support - is holding out.
Characteristic of a decadent society.
 

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That's worrisome. There are always some people who try to go along to get along. I don't think I necessarily want that characteristic in our politicians.
Yes, of course, this is a much better way for politicians to behave. ;)

 

mandrill

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That's worrisome. There are always some people who try to go along to get along. I don't think I necessarily want that characteristic in our politicians.
Oh dear. Perhaps you should invest in an inexpensive time machine and travel back to 1955. You would probably be happier.
 
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Of course.

Peterson will try to make as much money pedalling outrage as he can.
That is his new job.
Pushing outrageous positions like 'masturbation is bad' and waiting for the clicks and likes.
Yeah because masturbating to porn all day long and then feeling guilty about it is a good thing.

But you keep on misinterpreting the message there.
 

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Yeah because masturbating to porn all day long and then feeling guilty about it is a good thing.

But you keep on misinterpreting the message there.
That clip about porn taken in its entirety (big if here) was fairly reasoned and innocuous. Are there any psychologists that really believe masturbating to a lot of porn is a healthy life style? Surely, there are better examples of Peterson saying something that offends certain people.

This is one of those things on a social media thread that takes on a life of its own. I don't think mandrill would ever say "maybe that wasn't the best example". And Frank? Frank piles on to any progressive pile. 💩

So can we get off this masturbation thing?
 
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That clip about porn taken in its entirety (big if here) was fairly reasoned and innocuous. Are there any psychologists that really believe masturbating to a lot of porn is a healthy life style? Surely, there are better examples of Peterson saying something that offends certain people.

This is one of those things on a social media thread that takes on a life of its own. I don't think mandrill would ever say "maybe that wasn't the best example". And Frank? Frank piles on to any progressive pile. 💩

So can we get off this masturbation thing?
I suspect most psychiatrists wouldn't think too much masturbation was an issue. Or if so, it was part of a larger issue with focus or self confidence.

Squee posted a bio of JP which contains a number of more disturbing things about him. Post #152.
 

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I just realized how ridiculous we are... a bunch of Johns debating whether Peterson's actions are ethical or unethical, whether his professional college should be pursuing him or not?

What's that saying? "Those who live in glass houses..."

I'm glad were not pushing the boundaries of contemporary ethics and morality...
 
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''There's a very large swath of the public who would be perfectly happy to see anybody who doesn't share their political views punished harshly for their audacity and I think that's particularly true of radical leftists in anything that is centrist or conservative.''
 

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''There's a very large swath of the public who would be perfectly happy to see anybody who doesn't share their political views punished harshly for their audacity and I think that's particularly true of radical leftists in anything that is centrist or conservative.''
But again, you have to argue that the CPO elected board - which represents a reputable profession - are "radical leftists".

In fact, they're middle of the road, eminent professionals who have been chosen as leaders of their specific profession. They ARE the centrists.

I realize that you cannot emotionally accept what I just wrote without having your world-view disintegrate. But it's clear to most of the rest of us.
 

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The pathetic treatment of Jordan B Peterson proves that Trudeau’s fear is real

Canada, under the leadership of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, is extending its political interests to such an extent that now it is even willing to harness the freedom of speech and go even beyond the democratic constitution of Canada which guarantees that all citizens can have an opinion. Since Mr. Trudeau assumed office in 2015, this is yet another incident where the government’s fear of leaving office has come true, this time it feared an intellectual of the University of Toronto, Psychologist and Author Dr. Jordan Peterson. This shows Canada’s decreasing standards of governance and the limits to which the government can go.

The Shaking walls:
Dr. Jordan Peterson, a Canadian psychologist, and the author could lose his license to practice clinical psychology because he shared political posts on social media. Peterson was disciplined by the College of Psychologists of Ontario, which oversees the profession in his home province and regulates it. Peterson shared political tweets on Twitter. Jordan B Peterson claims his retweeting of posts about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Leader of the Conservative Party Pierre Poilievre, Trudeau advisor Gerald Butts, and New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, among others, got him into trouble with the College. In an effort to “modify his objectionable behavior,” the College has mandated that Jordan B Peterson undergo mandatory retraining in social media communication. It is unclear what aspects of the Tweets or their dissemination may be in violation of the College’s Code of Ethics.



Jordan B Peterson said,“Canada has been given over to the commissars,”, “something I never thought I’d see in my lifetime.” He says he’ll make the issue public in the days ahead.

Jordan B Peterson is not being asked to rethink his online actions towards a fellow psychologist; rather, he is being asked to participate in social media training because of his political statements. Peterson asserted that no individuals who have filed complaints are customers or have any connection to customers. Although Peterson hasn’t hurt them personally, they want to punish the good doctor.

In 2023, this is Canada, a nation that supports free speech but intends to prevent its citizens from exercising that right. Although organizations like the College of Psychologists of Ontario aren’t part of the government, they are regulated and sanctioned by the government. They have been given the responsibility of administering professions on behalf of the provincial government through legislation. In April 2017, For the first time in his academic career, Jordan B Peterson was also turned down by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada for a federal research grant. Bill C-16 surrounding gender, pronoun use, freedom of speech, and the rights of transgender and gender-diverse Canadians haven’t gone well with Dr. Peterson.

According to Jordan B Peterson, the new law forces speech that is allegedly invented to have a political connotation, and is anti-scientific, whereas the country’s hate speech laws have previously restricted speech.


Freedom of Speech?
Canadians frequently refer to their fundamental right to free speech. But this is a case where Canadians mistake themselves for Americans, as with many other misconceptions. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees “freedom of expression,” but there is a significant omission. This freedom is explicitly subject to “reasonable limits” in the Charter’s preamble. The other section of the Charter also says that provincial governments can take away any freedom they want, as long as they say so publicly.

In 2017, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on World’s Press Freedom Day stated that Canada widely respects press freedom and rights but his actions suggest something different. Press freedom was protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms during his father’s time as president. Legal media protections have made slow progress after more than 30 years. The Canadian media are subjected to intrusive surveillance, the possibility of imprisonment, and government obstruction for carrying out their duties.

According to a Reporters Without Borders (RSF) annual index, press freedom in Canada has decreased significantly. Journalists can be criminalized, even though journalism is not a crime. This was never more evident than when journalist Mohamed Fahmy was wrongfully convicted and given a seven-year prison term in Egypt’s maximum-security prison. In the World Press Freedom Index conducted by RSF in 2017, Canada came in at number 22 out of 180 nations, down four spots from 2016.

Canada has reached an alarming stage where the freedom of speech is not so free as it might seem. Imagine having eyes and not seeing, having a voice but not able to speak, having ears but not able to hear, such is the case of Canadians under Justin Trudeau. The Canadian constitution and laws have been “personalized” by the government, exceeding the spirit of democracy.


Leftists are all for diversity......As long as its aligning with what they are thinking.
It is Ford was put the politically correct legislation. And as refused to remove the previous legislation. What is ford in charge of Of the universities and the college psychologist. Get Trudeau gets the Blame?
 

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Frank, you always post external material that neither enlightens or adds anything new to the conversation. What are we to suppose to get from this bland and unspecific missive from the College of Psychologists?
That Peterson is not being 'censored' for political reasons as you and others originally claimed.
 

mandrill

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That can all be true and the College of Psychologists can also be overreaching.
Actually if you listen to the video Squee linked at post #152, Peterson is so far out and so obnoxious that he was just asking to have his balls busted by his professional association. The video is worth listening to. Maybe play it in the background when you're eating breakfast.

The wacko anti porn shit is creepy and compulsive. But the views on gender and race are seriously fucked up.

Is he entitled to think that women are unable to have leadership level careers?.... Sure. As a non professional individial, he can believe any screwy incel-shit he wants. But it's so far off acceptable thought for a practising psychologist that one has to believe that Peterson cannot genuinely fulfil his professional role.
 
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Is he entitled to think that women are unable to have leadership level careers?....
He has never said this lmao.

Why do you keep inventing things to make a point? He's not the boogeyman you wish he was and lying about him just makes you look pitiful.

Slander and defamation are real problems for you... a lawyer should be more careful.
 
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