Will Twitter survive? - Your thoughts

[krealtarron]

First, Twitter was running smoothly before Musk took over. I never said it was perfect. And, to be honest, I haven't personally seen an increase in hate speech. Now, that can be because I don't follow the most vile accounts (though I do follow a lot of right-wingers). But the reality here is that Musk has fucked up. And I think he realizes it. He wants to treat the workforce like serfs, and force them to do what ever he wants.

As for the tech mass layoffs....Yes, they do happen. Usually there is a time where management decides where to make the cuts. Because the damage of cutting too deeply can be felt for years. And....Musk did that. I mean, he took control and a week later fired half the staff. Do you really think successful companies just cut headcount like that? Yes, the numbers might be large, but they usually are targeted. These....weren't. And, when you lose people with institutional knowledge about why and how systems work....that is very difficult to replace. So, what does that mean? Well, over time, systems will break down. It will take those who remain at Twitter longer to figure out what the issues are. Improvements to the site/apps will take longer. Moderators will be over worked, which means bad content will stay up longer and maybe get spread farther. I'm not really talking about child pornography, but hate speech or people posting movies online. That will piss off more advertisers, and as systems fall apart, users will get fed up.

This is business 101. Nobody is saying Musk shouldn't have cut staff. But there was no plan. And, as far as we can tell...Musk still doesn't have a plan. Yes, he wants to somehow make Twitter into a payment servicing app...and now there is talk about video chat and what not...We'll see what actually works...and if there are enough users left to actual make it profitable.

Regardless of what service he comes up with I ain't payin. I am just there to follow escorts and troll a few right wingers lol.

The only reason the DAU for twitter has gone up is because people are curious or triggered/outraged. Not sure when people will lose interest and deactivate their accounts.

 

[dirtyharry555]

I think Dorsey is the real winner here. He walked away with cold hard cash… and walked away from the headache.

I agree... he and his co-founders/investors finally got their opportunity to dump it and get paid handsomely.

 

[dirtyharry555]

So… my opinion has not changed. My view, which you are free to disagree with, is people will find less value once it becomes the Wild West.

What about it has become the Wild West? Combating child abuse and human trafficking are good things. These are things Dorsey's useless crew should have done long ago. But they were too interested in paying people top dollar to sip lattes and use the corporate gym.

 

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This is what will happen. Not a trivial solution and probably as complicated as sending rockets to the moon and how to implement effectively. Like if you live in one country and they are super strict with crazy laws can you just use vpn or leave the country or does your point of registration/verification govern. However in theory the idea is good. Also how to deal with changing laws. They deserve all the respect if they can figure this out.



This is why they freaking out and getting their people bots to try and undermine people opinions on Twitter.


improvements already made.


this really scares them and how much info and intel he actually has now. No wonder they trying to bring him down.

 

[krealtarron]

Yeah he must have intel because he says so...right?

 

[richaceg]

Yeah he must have intel because he says so...right?

the point is not info...but how it is now properly moderated...

 

[krealtarron]

the point is not info...but how it is now properly moderated...

I agree twitter previously went overboard with moderating tweets on trans people or lgbtq people.

However, the biggest issue with twitter - lies, misinformation, manipulation, will all be hidden under "freedom of speech" and will never or cannot be moderated.

 

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I agree twitter previously went overboard with moderating tweets on trans people or lgbtq people.

However, the biggest issue with twitter - lies, misinformation, manipulation, will all be hidden under "freedom of speech" and will never or cannot be moderated.

How do you know this? Prove it!

Is this your fear? Is this your want? Is this your projection? Is this what they tell you to think and say like you have a crystal ball and can see the future ?

Everything you seem to say against them lol like you are in some tribe or something seems to be a projection of your own mindset and fabrication of a reality that does not match physical reality.

 

[krealtarron]

How do you know this? Prove it!

Is this your fear? Is this your want? Is this your projection? Is this what they tell you to think and say like you have a crystal ball and can see the future ?

Everything you seem to say against them lol like you are in some tribe or something seems to be a projection of your own mindset and fabrication of a reality that does not match physical reality.

Accusing someone of repeating what "they" tell you to think, while repeating what "they" tell you to think. Nice try lol.

 

[richaceg]

I agree twitter previously went overboard with moderating tweets on trans people or lgbtq people.

However, the biggest issue with twitter - lies, misinformation, manipulation, will all be hidden under "freedom of speech" and will never or cannot be moderated.

well that has been the issue of twitter long before Elon even was interested with Twitter...misinformation, manipulation has been a twitter problem even before Donald Trump was president.....

 

[krealtarron]

well that has been the issue of twitter long before Elon even was interested with Twitter...misinformation, manipulation has been a twitter problem even before Donald Trump was president.....

Yes, that is true. How do you even moderate it?

The problem is the majority accounts publishing outright lies are right wing accounts. Very problematic and unhealthy views. I was just looking up Matt Walsh. The guy is dead against trans people. Okay that is fine. But I also read that he said "Teenage pregnancies are not the problem. Unwed pregnancies are. 17 to 24 is the most fertile age for a woman, and for some reason its only recently that teenage has been considered too young to start a family". 17 is underage. How can I trust anything this asshole says? There are lots of problematic people that are exclusively right wing on there.

 

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Yes, that is true. How do you even moderate it?

The problem is the majority accounts publishing outright lies are right wing accounts. Very problematic and unhealthy views. I was just looking up Matt Walsh. The guy is dead against trans people. Okay that is fine. But I also read that he said "Teenage pregnancies are not the problem. Unwed pregnancies are. 17 to 24 is the most fertile age for a woman, and for some reason we now consider it too young". 17 is underage. Even 24 is too young to get married, but whatever. How can I trust anything this asshole says? There are lots of problematic people that are exclusively right wing on there.

This is simple. Just block them and follow the sources you trust. This should be your choice. They should not take away your choice. Just like if you are sick you have the choice to go to the doctor and get professional opinion and/ second professional option or ignore and risk getting worse to the point of no return. Regarding laws you can’t play ignorant and say ohh I saw something on Twitter and I don’t need to pay in example taxes or whatever. This is your responsibility to know the laws of the country that govern you.

Regardless of Twitter google or Wikipedia and history it is filled with misinformation. Don’t they say that history is written by the victorious and anything else is misinformation lol

It’s misinformation when it threatens your tribe or the tribe in power. They don’t like this. This is why we have laws and the international human rights code. It’s not perfect and can improve but that’s all we have to equalize us and get over the paradigm lock of the different tribes and ideologies that think their way is the way and others are misinformation.

 

[krealtarron]

This is simple. Just block them and follow the sources you trust. This should be your choice. They should not take away your choice. Just like if you are sick you have the choice to go to the doctor and get professional opinion and/ second professional option or ignore and risk getting worse to the point of no return. Regarding laws you can’t play ignorant and say ohh I saw something on Twitter. This is your responsibility. Regardless of Twitter google or Wikipedia and history it is filled with information. After don’t they say that history is written by the victorious and anything else is misinformation lol

It is not a problem for me. There are however many dumbasses out there who are heavily influenced by the influencers they follow, especially if they have a certain political leaning. Sometimes you are drowned out in misinformation. There are people who still think the 2020 elections were stolen for example and those are the kind of people who would go attack the capitol. So it is not as simple as saying, block those you dont trust.

 

[dirtyharry555]

The problem is the majority accounts publishing outright lies are right wing accounts. Very problematic and unhealthy views.

Stop making stupid statements like this.

How to moderate Twitter? Certainly not with people who share your views.

 

[richaceg]

Yes, that is true. How do you even moderate it?

The problem is the majority accounts publishing outright lies are right wing accounts. Very problematic and unhealthy views. I was just looking up Matt Walsh. The guy is dead against trans people. Okay that is fine. But I also read that he said "Teenage pregnancies are not the problem. Unwed pregnancies are. 17 to 24 is the most fertile age for a woman, and for some reason its only recently that teenage has been considered too young to start a family". 17 is underage. How can I trust anything this asshole says? There are lots of problematic people that are exclusively right wing on there.

you see the problem here is you're following this dude...why? He's free to express his opinion...unfollow the guy and you will not be bothered by what he says...

 

[krealtarron]

Stop making stupid statements like this.

How to moderate Twitter? Certainly not with people who share your views.

Yeah sure bury your head in the sand. Every major conspiracy theory or hoax comes from the right. I have seen inaccuracies or spin stories on the left, but outright lies, conspiracy theories etc - thats like a right wing signature move.

 

[richaceg]

The problem is the majority accounts publishing outright lies are right wing accounts.

You really think left wing accounts don't spread outright lies?
bro...c'mon now...

 

[krealtarron]

you see the problem here is you're following this dude...why? He's free to express his opinion...unfollow the guy and you will not be bothered by what he says...

I am not following him, yet I heard of him, which is why I went to his profile to see what he was about and then ended up in a rabbit hole. Thats my whole point.

Elon today was responding to this guy Ramzpaul - who is actually a white nationalist. Ramz was claiming that all the pedophiles that twitter apparently removed has resulted in lots of antifa accounts getting banned. Basically trying to insinuate that "antifa" whoever they are, are all pedophiles. This is the sort of thing that is problematic.

You really think left wing accounts don't spread outright lies?
bro...c'mon now...

I said in my very next post, that I have seen spin stories. But outright conspiracy theories and hoaxes? No.

 

[richaceg]

I am not following him, yet I heard of him, which is why I went to his profile to see what he was about and then ended up in a rabbit hole. Thats my whole point.

Elon today was responding to this guy Ramzpaul - who is actually a white nationalist. Ramz was claiming that all the pedophiles that twitter apparently removed has resulted in lots of antifa accounts getting banned. Basically trying to insinuate that "antifa" whoever they are, are all pedophiles. This is the sort of thing that is problematic.



I said in my very next post, that I have seen spin stories. But outright conspiracy theories and hoaxes? No.

why is it problematic? they didn't say all antifa are pedophiles...you're the one insinuating that...

 

[krealtarron]

why is it problematic? they didn't say all antifa are pedophiles...you're the one insinuating that...

Its problematic because it is lies. How do you know someone is antifa? How does he know that an account got banned for child porn and was antifa? How does he know which accounts were banned for child porn in the first place unless he was following them closely (which itself is sus) ? He is certainly pursuing his own agenda there. People reading those types of tweets will immediately claim, oh those antifa people are all pedophiles (cuz they read that on twitter from a manipulative account and because they have a certain political leaning). We also have to acknowledge that anyone that is on the left, and engages in a protest, is called "antifa" by people like Ramz, essentially insinuating that anyone on the left is a pedo.