Will Twitter survive? - Your thoughts

mandrill

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I started following her since September because she used to rip on Elon Musk and his fan boys pretty hard. She always said she is not taking any sides and her main goal was fighting CSE. I was like this is fine because she is focused and only started to say positive things when those hashtags and changes were actually implemented and not taking any side. She used to be very rude and aggressive against him. They are in her timeline. Look at around the time he actually bought Twitter on her TL.
Well, January 2021 and she has pretty much his entire dick down her throat and she's sucking it pretty good. But you know better, I guess.
 
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Well, January 2021 and she has pretty much his entire dick down her throat and she's sucking it pretty good. But you know better, I guess.
Yeah suddenly of all things, child porn is the biggest issue on Twitter and Elon is the saviour. I mean sure, it is an issue, but how big is it really apart from a few instances?

I think the biggest issue with Twitter is misinformation. Misleading info, lies, political manipulation - things that serve to divide society are the biggest reasons twitter is a cesspool.
 
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Prove it! Or is this point coming out of your ass like everything else you posted on this topic. No wonder they call it shitter 😅
You still haven’t proved Twitter was exploiting children. You simply posted an “accusation” from someone named Eliza. I am sure people have posted inappropriate material on Twitter… yet to see actual evidence Twitter allowed child porn.


Besides…. I thought it was Trump who was saving the children from all the cabals

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My guess it’ll happen slowly then all at once. You can’t lose 75% of your staff and expect the platform to keep running on its own. It just can’t.
Thus far, not only is it operating fine (if not better than before), it's also implementing brand new strategies tackling things like child exploitation.

How long before the cookie crumbles since you and mandrill seem to know how businesses like Twitter operate? A couple weeks? A couple months? Years?
 
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Are you kidding?
People have been talking about Twitter as a cesspool and "the hellsite" for years.
That didn't start with Musk and it won't end with Musk.
everyone is still using Twitter...heck even CNN has 60m followers on twitter...Musk saw that twitter is being mismanaged...he wants to run a tight ship....
 

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everyone is still using Twitter...heck even CNN has 60m followers on twitter...Musk saw that twitter is being mismanaged...he wants to run a tight ship....
Musk says a bunch of shit.

So far, the guy is a laughing stock and a klown show. I'm on Twitter and there are hundreds of accounts mocking him with "verified" blue check marks. The mass firings are bizarre. None of this appears to be a well thought out management plan.
 

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Musk says a bunch of shit.

So far, the guy is a laughing stock and a klown show. I'm on Twitter and there are hundreds of accounts mocking him with "verified" blue check marks. The mass firings are bizarre. None of this appears to be a well thought out management plan.
He has haters for sure...who doesn't get mocked on twitter? the bigger you are the more haters you have...it's laughable how people call him "klown show" when the guy can basically get whatever he wants... AMD laid off half their entire staffing back in 2012 because management saw redundance of work. 1 job that can be done by 1 person is being done by 3. Looks like twitter is the same. Intel had the same problem.. happens to every big tech companies....
 
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Musk says a bunch of shit.

So far, the guy is a laughing stock and a klown show. I'm on Twitter and there are hundreds of accounts mocking him with "verified" blue check marks. The mass firings are bizarre. None of this appears to be a well thought out management plan.
The man with 118 MILLION twitter followers is being mocked by hundreds of accounts. How does he sleep at night?
 

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Musk says a bunch of shit.

So far, the guy is a laughing stock and a klown show. I'm on Twitter and there are hundreds of accounts mocking him with "verified" blue check marks. The mass firings are bizarre. None of this appears to be a well thought out management plan.
The mass firings were idiotic. I mean, I'm not saying that job cuts weren't needed (I don't know if they were or not), but it was so blunt and ham-fisted that they slashed teams without truly understanding what they did, or why they were important. Then his ultimatum to the remaining workers about being "hardcore" or leave....why would anyone want to stay? Think of it this way: You're being asked to do the work of seven people, work stupid long hours and not see any increase in salary or benefits. Most of the people left behind cannot leave, they're on visas that say they would need to leave the country if they left Twitter...and they don't want to return to their homes.

So Twitter is puttering along with a skeleton crew. It has done some weird things, like on my mobile device the time line gets wonky in new and exciting ways all the time....But, will is it just days away from cascading failures? Who knows?

But, as I've said before, any reputation Musk had as a business genius has been destroyed by this three or four week period since he took over. Its been one misstep after another. A virtual master class in how not to run a business. Twitter was never super profitable at the best of times, but Musk seems to have done all he can to make it nearly worthless. If it continues, there will be a mass exodus of users to other services like Mastodon or what not, and he'll have burned $45B for nothing...
 

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Thus far, not only is it operating fine (if not better than before), it's also implementing brand new strategies tackling things like child exploitation.

How long before the cookie crumbles since you and mandrill seem to know how businesses like Twitter operate? A couple weeks? A couple months? Years?

You and I have different opinion of “just fine”.

And I am not a fortune teller.

However… key management and staff members are walking away. And once it becomes the Wild West as Musk seems to want, people will find less value in it, and walk away. Credible people that is. People with common sense and ideas worth sharing. I’m sure it will be troll heaven for a little bit…. But does that appeal to advertisers??? Doubt it.

Personally… I have never been on Twitter. Didn’t give a shit about it before Musk, and certainly don’t now.

I can’t predict when mass security breach will happen…. But I know they are trying hard now with less staff to keep the data safe.

10 years from now, it will be the equivalent of MySpace.
 

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You and I have different opinion of “just fine”.

And I am not a fortune teller.

However… key management and staff members are walking away. And once it becomes the Wild West as Musk seems to want, people will find less value in it, and walk away. Credible people that is. People with common sense and ideas worth sharing. I’m sure it will be troll heaven for a little bit…. But does that appeal to advertisers??? Doubt it.

Personally… I have never been on Twitter. Didn’t give a shit about it before Musk, and certainly don’t now.

I can’t predict when mass security breach will happen…. But I know they are trying hard now with less staff to keep the data safe.

10 years from now, it will be the equivalent of MySpace.
SO you've never been on twitter, don't give a shit about it, yet you know how to run it better than Musk? ummmk...
 

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SO you've never been on twitter, don't give a shit about it, yet you know how to run it better than Musk? ummmk...
Never said I knew better than Musk. That was never the question. You don’t need to know how to run a restaurant to eat at one. You certainly know good service from poor service. Not hard to tell when a place will make it or fail. And if I am wrong, 🤷‍♂️

Got anything else there Ace?
 

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The mass firings were idiotic. I mean, I'm not saying that job cuts weren't needed (I don't know if they were or not), but it was so blunt and ham-fisted that they slashed teams without truly understanding what they did, or why they were important. Then his ultimatum to the remaining workers about being "hardcore" or leave....why would anyone want to stay? Think of it this way: You're being asked to do the work of seven people, work stupid long hours and not see any increase in salary or benefits. Most of the people left behind cannot leave, they're on visas that say they would need to leave the country if they left Twitter...and they don't want to return to their homes.

So Twitter is puttering along with a skeleton crew. It has done some weird things, like on my mobile device the time line gets wonky in new and exciting ways all the time....But, will is it just days away from cascading failures? Who knows?

But, as I've said before, any reputation Musk had as a business genius has been destroyed by this three or four week period since he took over. Its been one misstep after another. A virtual master class in how not to run a business. Twitter was never super profitable at the best of times, but Musk seems to have done all he can to make it nearly worthless. If it continues, there will be a mass exodus of users to other services like Mastodon or what not, and he'll have burned $45B for nothing...
Again with the bullshit logic...Twitter was great until Musk eventually owns it now, it's garbage....LOL...those mas exodus....nothing more like lefty cry babies just boycotting because they hate him...what happens when he buys Mastodon too? it won't be good either? Mass firings with big tech companies are nothing new...you must be living in a cave...
 

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Never said I knew better than Musk. That was never the question. You don’t need to know how to run a restaurant to eat at one. You certainly know good service from poor service. Not hard to tell when a place will make it or fail. And if I am wrong, 🤷‍♂️

Got anything else there Ace?
so the richest man in the planet, don't know how to run a business...gotcha...
 

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so the richest man in the planet, don't know how to run a business...gotcha...

Personally, I think Tesla is way overvalued. Incredible technology… (note that Musk had nothing to do with its invention)… but the business model does not add up. He could never sell enough cars to justify its value. But then people point to aftermarket stuff. And I agree… it is expensive aftermarket… which will be a big turn off. Especially when the competition can do the product just as well, and more affordable.

Tesla was the only real player in the game for a bit. That’s about to change. Europe and Asia already have big players in the game. North America will have to follow suit soon enough.

So to answer your question… no, I don’t think the guy who knocks up every chic he walks past is as smart as he would have us believe.

Then again… he may pull some “Pump and Dump” scams with crypto again, make a few hundred million, and pay the $1m fine. Never mind all the people left holding the bag, right?
 

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Personally, I think Tesla is way overvalued. Incredible technology… (note that Musk had nothing to do with its invention)… but the business model does not add up. He could never sell enough cars to justify its value. But then people point to aftermarket stuff. And I agree… it is expensive aftermarket… which will be a big turn off. Especially when the competition can do the product just as well, and more affordable.

Tesla was the only real player in the game for a bit. That’s about to change. Europe and Asia already have big players in the game. North America will have to follow suit soon enough.

So to answer your question… no, I don’t think the guy who knocks up every chic he walks past is as smart as he would have us believe.

Then again… he may pull some “Pump and Dump” scams with crypto again, make a few hundred million, and pay the $1m fine. Never mind all the people left holding the bag, right?
He probably does pump and dumps...just like any savvy investors...like you said, he isn't the genius most believe, but he somehow makes it work for him which tells you he is good with his business...when it comes to twitter, what's so bad about it now compared to pre Musk? Looks like he wants to overhaul it for the better...
 

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He probably does pump and dumps...just like any savvy investors...like you said, he isn't the genius most believe, but he somehow makes it work for him which tells you he is good with his business...when it comes to twitter, what's so bad about it now compared to pre Musk? Looks like he wants to overhaul it for the better...
So… my opinion has not changed. My view, which you are free to disagree with, is people will find less value once it becomes the Wild West.

However… It’s going to be funny to watch him, as the beacon of free speech, institute rules when people Troll him or his business’. He does not take criticism well, but he likes to dole it out.

He is going to have to make some very tough decisions as what is acceptable and unacceptable.

I think Dorsey is the real winner here. He walked away with cold hard cash… and walked away from the headache.
 

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The mass firings were idiotic. I mean, I'm not saying that job cuts weren't needed (I don't know if they were or not), but it was so blunt and ham-fisted that they slashed teams without truly understanding what they did, or why they were important. Then his ultimatum to the remaining workers about being "hardcore" or leave....why would anyone want to stay? Think of it this way: You're being asked to do the work of seven people, work stupid long hours and not see any increase in salary or benefits. Most of the people left behind cannot leave, they're on visas that say they would need to leave the country if they left Twitter...and they don't want to return to their homes.

So Twitter is puttering along with a skeleton crew. It has done some weird things, like on my mobile device the time line gets wonky in new and exciting ways all the time....But, will is it just days away from cascading failures? Who knows?

But, as I've said before, any reputation Musk had as a business genius has been destroyed by this three or four week period since he took over. Its been one misstep after another. A virtual master class in how not to run a business. Twitter was never super profitable at the best of times, but Musk seems to have done all he can to make it nearly worthless. If it continues, there will be a mass exodus of users to other services like Mastodon or what not, and he'll have burned $45B for nothing...
Because Elon doesn't care. You know how big companies run on autopilot. This is an example. In any other scenario people would be united in their criticism of a billionaire businessman subjecting his workers to horrible work conditions or firing them. But Elon has so perfectly manipulated his audience to believe this is a right wing takeover of Twitter, that he is being praised. People are truly pathetic.

This is also quite common in the companies he leads. Read about SpaceX about how they dedicate a lot of time to managing Elon. Because apparently he makes ridiculous and moronic demands so they end up manipulating him in the way they provide updates and inputs, to keep things on track. Also, the work culture in Tesla and SpaceX etc is extremely toxic, unfriendly. Apparently most engineers who work there, are young, fresh out of school, dont have a family type of people, who think they know more than they actually do. So they end up burning the midnight oil. There are also others who apparently play video games at work beyond 5PM to put on a show that they are working hard - part of how they "manage" Elon.

In short he is a horrible boss and a horrible person, who lies all the time. These Elon stans just can't get enough of him.
 

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Again with the bullshit logic...Twitter was great until Musk eventually owns it now, it's garbage....LOL...those mas exodus....nothing more like lefty cry babies just boycotting because they hate him...what happens when he buys Mastodon too? it won't be good either? Mass firings with big tech companies are nothing new...you must be living in a cave...
First, Twitter was running smoothly before Musk took over. I never said it was perfect. And, to be honest, I haven't personally seen an increase in hate speech. Now, that can be because I don't follow the most vile accounts (though I do follow a lot of right-wingers). But the reality here is that Musk has fucked up. And I think he realizes it. He wants to treat the workforce like serfs, and force them to do what ever he wants.

As for the tech mass layoffs....Yes, they do happen. Usually there is a time where management decides where to make the cuts. Because the damage of cutting too deeply can be felt for years. And....Musk did that. I mean, he took control and a week later fired half the staff. Do you really think successful companies just cut headcount like that? Yes, the numbers might be large, but they usually are targeted. These....weren't. And, when you lose people with institutional knowledge about why and how systems work....that is very difficult to replace. So, what does that mean? Well, over time, systems will break down. It will take those who remain at Twitter longer to figure out what the issues are. Improvements to the site/apps will take longer. Moderators will be over worked, which means bad content will stay up longer and maybe get spread farther. I'm not really talking about child pornography, but hate speech or people posting movies online. That will piss off more advertisers, and as systems fall apart, users will get fed up.

This is business 101. Nobody is saying Musk shouldn't have cut staff. But there was no plan. And, as far as we can tell...Musk still doesn't have a plan. Yes, he wants to somehow make Twitter into a payment servicing app...and now there is talk about video chat and what not...We'll see what actually works...and if there are enough users left to actual make it profitable.
 
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