WAR IMMINENT:Russian commanders given instructions to attack Ukraine

jcpro

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That's silly. He didn't have to mobilize to annex Donbass. He could just have made an announcement from his mansion on the Black Sea and he could have done it any time in the last 7 years. The Western reaction would have been exactly the same. No one gives a fuck about Donbass. The Ukrainians don't even care.

What concerns everybody is the military build-up opposite Kharkiv and in Belarus opposite Kiev.
You have your timing and the Czar of Russia has his timing. Above all, doing it during the Trump's presidency would have been bad for Russia.
 

nottyboi

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I doubt it. Russia will have total air conyrol over the region, and Nato will likely not interfere. Ukraine has no good options.
their best option was the Minsk agreements. Since they fucked that up, Zelensky will be the leader that destroyed the nation. The dumb ass trusted the US. Now he is kinda fucked. Canada lent them 650m. thats gone.
 
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No, it's a game of chicken and this is just the next fake bluff.

If Putin wanted Ukraine, he'd send tank columns into Kharkov and down the Dnepr into Kiev. It would be over in a couple of days and then the West would sanction the fuck out of Russia and NATO would start to seriously re arm for WW3.
We will see what sanctions they put in place now. If they go all in. Putin may decide that now is the time. But I think at most he will take all of eastern Ukraine down the black sea and secure the east shore of the Dniper river so Crimea can be supplied with water.
 
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"132,000Number of Allied soldiers who landed on June 6, 1944"
Putin has more soldiers on standby than the allies who landed on Normandy.

General Eisenhower said when you have that many soldiers on standby, you either attack or go home.

Old Irish proverb: "Shit or get off the can."
Those soldiers are home LoL
 

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If I was Metternicht, or Bismark or Kissenger, I would propose a solution where The Donbass region and Crimea became part of Russia. The people living there are Russians, want to join Russia, and the Ukrainians do not like them anyway.
There must be something Russia can give Ukraine in return.
Russia, or bolshevik Russia to be exact already gave Ukraine the Ukraine LoL Ukraine never existed in this form before.. but it is semantics anyway, Ukranians and Russians are same ppl who speak same language( different dialect does not constitue a language)

So call them all Russians or all Ukranians rhey are one and the same, sharing DNA, Culture and beleifs.

The war between the two is just retarded.
 

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It used to be that the US had by far the strongest military in the world. Today, it is no longer the case. The Russian military is equally strong, anda China close. North Korea also has a strong military. All three could join forces and wreak havoc. China is already pushing the limits on what it can do territorially. North Korea is crazy, and Russia is obviously thirsty to reclaim it's former self and have more influence.

Could these three win a world war 3?
I disagree, i beleive US military is still the strongest and with over 700 overseas bases, also most deployed army in the worlds history..

Just one of their carrier strike groups carries more punch than most of the smaller countries in the developed world.

Now do i agree with whaf this army is doing, of course not, they brought nothing but carnage wherever they landed, in the name of freedom and democracy, I dare you to go and ask the ppl of middle east and various asian countries how free and semocratic they all feel.....

They have raped and pillaged the planet, killed countless millions and commited every war crime imaginable, qnd never stood trial for it..

But they are still the strongest military outfit by far.
 

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Ukranians and Russians are same ppl who speak same language( different dialect does not constitue a language)
lol which linguist claimed that? tucker carlson?
 

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So if he has no intention to invade, why do this big show? He has just weakened his standing with the West and made himself a pariah.


He loses a lot for nothing it seems
West has been gradually isolating and encircling Russia for decades now, and new sanctions were going to be imposed regardless, an excuse would have been made one way or another.

Who ever has a hard time beleiving it just take a count of US bases around russia and their positioning.
 

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I cannot imagine this being a good scenario for Putin. Guerilla war is what both Russia and Ukraine used since Napoleon times. When nazis took Kiev they have been executing civilians in response to resistance attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_partisans
What the fuck is Putin supposed to do when his troops are attacked by partizans in Kiev or other large cities where the population does not support Russia?
Nah he wont go to Kiev untill Kiev goes to him, after they have been royally fucked by the West, give it a decade or 2
 

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their best option was the Minsk agreements. Since they fucked that up, Zelensky will be the leader that destroyed the nation. The dumb ass trusted the US. Now he is kinda fucked. Canada lent them 650m. thats gone.
Ah if by Lent, you mean GAVE, and who knows how much went to TURDS croneys, than yes.
 

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Comparing Russian and Ukranian is like comparing Australian Nad American English, and calling them Australian and American Language.
Ukrainians understand russian (due to decades of TV/radio broadcasting, serving in Soviet army etc) but russians don't understand ukrainian. Neither do you nor whoever fed you that "information".
 

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Ukrainians understand russian (due to decades of TV/radio broadcasting, serving in Soviet army etc) but russians don't understand ukrainian. Neither do you nor whoever fed you that "information".
Dont get all pissy because it is true.
There is nothing wrong with it, if anything it is a good thing.
 

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Dont get all pissy because it is true.
There is nothing wrong with it, if anything it is a good thing.
I would bet good money that Russians don’t understand Ukrainian but since we cannot really do it in context of this board I will just put you on ignore :)
 
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I disagree, i beleive US military is still the strongest and with over 700 overseas bases, also most deployed army in the worlds history..

Just one of their carrier strike groups carries more punch than most of the smaller countries in the developed world.

Now do i agree with whaf this army is doing, of course not, they brought nothing but carnage wherever they landed, in the name of freedom and democracy, I dare you to go and ask the ppl of middle east and various asian countries how free and semocratic they all feel.....

They have raped and pillaged the planet, killed countless millions and commited every war crime imaginable, qnd never stood trial for it..

But they are still the strongest military outfit by far.
The US has not had to contend with attacking a strong tier 1 military in a long time. They were defeated in Afghanistan most recently. If they attacked a tier 1 power like Russia, their carrier groups would not be able to get into strike range without being sunk. It would not be pretty. Best to not think about it
 
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Comparing Russian and Ukranian is like comparing Australian Nad American English, and calling them Australian and American Language.
No, the difference between Russian and Ukrainian is much greater then between French and Quebequa. There are lots of very similar words, but still, it is not a dialect. All Ukrainians (except in some villages) know Russian though. Any Russian can understand written Ukrainian (about 90% of the text, at least), but understanding will be less for regular-speed monologue. I believe, both languages were the same about 1000 years ago when "Russia" was mostly on the current Ukrainian territory, but I am not an expert in my own country history, so, I may be wrong.
 

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It used to be that the US had by far the strongest military in the world. Today, it is no longer the case. The Russian military is equally strong, anda China close. North Korea also has a strong military.
Your source says the US is still number 1. Also you are completely ignoring equipment quality, training and doctrinal issues.
North Korea is a large military but it is man for man extremely weak... and small, literally as they don't get to eat much.
 
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Update: Putin has just ordered his troops to occupy the separatist regions of Ukraine. War will begin.
According to major new sources, they are actually allowed to enter those regions via agreements from their last muckabout.
War may begin... or not.
 
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