BREAKING: CBC producer quits, slams woke broadcaster for failing to cover issues important to Canadians

[JohnLarue]

So…. Your source agrees with me the climate change is man made.

Your source also believes that given the choice between addressing climate change, or growing the economy, people with choose more money.

So far he is in line with everything I post… albeit, he articulates it better… yet I am the one virtues signalling. Sure.

No Roger Pielke agrees that that the hysteria over AGW is unwarranted

You can not get past the the issue that science is not a matter of opinion, it is determined by experimental ovservations and
The atmosphere is not warming. the satellite data clearly shows that despite the rise in Co2
there is no cause and effect relationship

 

[poker]

No Roger Pielke agrees that that the hysteria over AGW is unwarranted

You can not get past the the issue that science is not a matter of opinion, it is determined by experimental ovservations and
The atmosphere is not warming. the satellite data clearly shows that despite the rise in Co2
there is no cause and effect relationship

No Roger Pielke agrees that that the hysteria over AGW is unwarranted

You can not get past the the issue that science is not a matter of opinion, it is determined by experimental ovservations and
The atmosphere is not warming. the satellite data clearly shows that despite the rise in Co2
there is no cause and effect relationship

And boom. You lied again. Roger is a supporter of decabonization.

While Roger does believe there is no immediate cause for concern, (that part is more subjective than science), that is not what we’re talking about, or what I said. Roger is in fact one of the worlds leading scientists who is a vocal supporter of decarbonization. I have already posted proof… but there is tons more of you want me to post that shit too. It’s easy to look up your sources for verification you realize. Then the cherry picking is easy to identify.

It’s funny. Anything else I post you will take time to address it line by line, and carefully try to debunk what My position. Yet when I debunk yours, you tap dance around it like Fred Astaire.

 

[poker]

25 Years of Climate Change Research

updated 28 March 2019 This essay provides a overview of my perspectives on climate change and the decades of research and writing that I have done on the topic. Ever since my PhD dissertation in 19…

rogerpielkejr.com

updated 28 March 2019

This essay provides a overview of my perspectives on climate change and the decades of research and writing that I have done on the topic. Ever since my PhD dissertation in 1994 I have argued that climate change poses risks and deserves significant action in response. I’ve also argued that our response efforts to date have been woefully inadequate. My views, which I have not been shy about sharing, have led some to try to exclude or remove me from the discussion, with some considerable success.

I’ve worked on issues of climate change science and policy since the early 1990s. My PhD dissertation was on the efforts by the U.S. government to produce science in support of climate policy (specifically it was a policy evaluation of the U.S. Global Change Research program under Public Law 101-606, which is the law under which the U.S. National Climate Assessment is produced). In my dissertation I wrote that the neglect of attention to policy options in the research program, in favor of predictive earth science research, would limit efforts to develop effective responses to climate change. I wrote in my dissertation: “Debate over “global warming” has distracted scientists and policymakers alike from the requirements of effective decisionmaking.”

 

[Moviefan-2]

Wrong again.

National Newswatch

National Newswatch: Canada's most comprehensive site for political news and views.

www.nationalnewswatch.com

"Wrong again" is another example of extreme idiocy, as there is nothing in that poll that explains why people who don't want to pay for the CBC are forced to pay for it.

Taxes are paid for public services that serve the public good. As a society, we benefit from things like access to health care, an educated population and workforce, protection from crime and foreign threats, etc.

In a multi-channel and online universe, the CBC does not serve the public good. It is one of many options for news and entertainment but its value doesn't extend beyond its immediate audience.

If most Canadians want to financially support the CBC, then it should have no difficulty thriving as a subscriber-based option.

I'm indifferent to how other people choose to spend their money. But there is no reason why the money I spend on news and entertainment should be governed by majority rule.

 

[JohnLarue]

And boom. You lied again. Roger is a supporter of decabonization.

do not call me a liar

Roger Pielke is best known for his honest testimony to the US senate in 2013
This testimony cost him his job and his ability to make a living as nutjob activists were outraged he would speak the truth and thus expended every effort to have him canceled at any and all speaking events
Here are his 7 key take aways from that testimony

1. It is misleading, and just plain incorrect, to claim that disasters associated with hurricanes, tornadoes, floods or droughts have increased on climate timescales either in the United States or globally.1 It is further incorrect to associate the increasing costs of disasters with the emission of greenhouse gases.
2. Globally, weather-related losses ($) have not increased since 1990 as a proportion of GDP (they have actually decreased by about 25%) and insured catastrophe losses have not increased as a proportion of GDP since 1960.
3.  Hurricanes have not increased in the US in frequency, intensity or normalized damage since at least 1900. The same holds for tropical cyclones globally since at least 1970 (when data allows for a global perspective)
4. Floods have not increased in the US in frequency or intensity since at least 1950. Flood losses as a percentage of US GDP have dropped by about 75% since 1940.
5. Tornadoes have not increased in frequency, intensity or normalized damage since 1950, and there is some evidence to suggest that they have actually declined.
6. Drought has “for the most part, become shorter, less frequent, and cover a smaller portion of the U. S. over the last century.” Globally, “there has been little change in drought over the past 60 years.”
7. The absolute costs of disasters will increase significantly in coming years due to greater wealth and populations in locations exposed to extremes. Consequent, disasters will continue to be an important focus of policy, irrespective of the exact future course of climate change.

Societal Vulnerability and Climate (colorado.edu)

Start dancing

you will not address how this directly contradicts your claims about extreme weather
you will instead focus on a court ruling or someones opinion

It’s funny. Anything else I post you will take time to address it line by line, and carefully try to debunk what My position. Yet when I debunk yours, you tap dance around it like Fred Astaire.

There is no tap dancing around the fact the satellite data shows no meaningful warming despite an ever increasing co2 concentration
That is fundamental and all other points are pretty much moot relative to that


Re: Decarbonization
Wind and solar are not going to decarbonize the world- Not even remotely close
If you want to support nuclear -you might reduce FF emissions by 10% maybe 20%

It is foolish, and extremely irresponsible to make energy more expensive via govt policy

learn some science if you are going to try and impose your biased views about a scientific matter onto others

 

[JohnLarue]

I'm indifferent to how other people choose to spend their money. But there is no reason why the money I spend on news and entertainment should be governed by majority rule.

and there in lies the rub
You do not want control over other peoples money/ behavior
The left wing loonies do want this control

 

[Frankfooter]

In a Toronto Sun column the other day, columnist Lorne Gunter .......

The climate change attribution in the December story was simply the CBC inserting its own agenda into the results.

Hilarious that you quote a Sun columnist and then accuse the CBC of having an agenda.
There is a reason why you never quote scientists.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't think that's remotely accurate. I'd say the CBC was always left-leaning, but Canada has become ever more leftist and the CBC has moved with it. So relative to 20 years ago, both CBC and Canada in general have become more left-leaning, but as the CBC was left-leaning to begin with, now it's uber left-leaning.

Media in general, both left and right, has certainly lost journalistic integrity, so she's correct about that. And I applaud her for being willing to give up her position based on the outlet's failings.

Its worth a real debate, but for a start I'd say your argument is flawed or you don't have any history with CBC.
Really, the only difference in media is spill over here from the very extreme right wing US media.
Other than Sun Media, our media hasn't radically changed its bias.

 

[Frankfooter]

25 Years of Climate Change Research

updated 28 March 2019 This essay provides a overview of my perspectives on climate change and the decades of research and writing that I have done on the topic. Ever since my PhD dissertation in 19…

rogerpielkejr.com

updated 28 March 2019

This essay provides a overview of my perspectives on climate change and the decades of research and writing that I have done on the topic. Ever since my PhD dissertation in 1994 I have argued that climate change poses risks and deserves significant action in response. I’ve also argued that our response efforts to date have been woefully inadequate. My views, which I have not been shy about sharing, have led some to try to exclude or remove me from the discussion, with some considerable success.

I’ve worked on issues of climate change science and policy since the early 1990s. My PhD dissertation was on the efforts by the U.S. government to produce science in support of climate policy (specifically it was a policy evaluation of the U.S. Global Change Research program under Public Law 101-606, which is the law under which the U.S. National Climate Assessment is produced). In my dissertation I wrote that the neglect of attention to policy options in the research program, in favor of predictive earth science research, would limit efforts to develop effective responses to climate change. I wrote in my dissertation: “Debate over “global warming” has distracted scientists and policymakers alike from the requirements of effective decisionmaking.”

Wow, larue is really lying about his source.
What a big surprise.

 

[bver_hunter]

Hilarious that you quote a Sun columnist and then accuse the CBC of having an agenda.
There is a reason why you never quote scientists.

Michael Mann is one of the leading Climate Scientists and his take on the worst disasters in modern times sums it all. I would take his word over any Climate Sceptic. I know that the right wingers use Roger Pielke as an example. However, though he thinks that Climate Change effects like Storms and Droughts are exaggerated, nevertheless he still believes that Greenhouse Gases are a cause for Climate Change. Anyway this is Mann's view on these disasters not seen in any of our life times:

 

[Moviefan-2]

Hilarious that you quote a Sun columnist and then accuse the CBC of having an agenda.
There is a reason why you never quote scientists.

Another example of extreme idiocy. As an educated and intelligent person, I don't need to quote scientists to describe an obvious example of the CBC pushing its biased agenda in a news story.

In fact, Gunter happens to be right.

By the way, the Sun is a private business and is quite transparent about its conservative position. If the CBC were to become a subscriber-based private operation that I'm not forced to help fund, I would have no issues with its political bias.

I don't have an issue with the editorial positions of the Toronto Star and the Globe and Mail.

 

[Moviefan-2]

Michael Mann is one of the leading Climate Scientists and his take on the worst disasters in modern times sums it all.

Michael Mann, the fake "Nobel laureate" (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/michael-manns-false-nobel-claim-charles-c-w-cooke/), is an extremist who does tremendous damage to the case being made by climate researchers. His militancy and partisan agenda make it impossible for him to be taken seriously as an objective researcher.

Indeed, he is often at odds with like-minded climate researchers because of his outrageous claims. For example, fellow researchers Kevin Trenberth and Cliff Mass challenged his claim four years ago that harsh snow and cold weather were being caused by climate change.

"Winter storms are a manifestation of winter, not climate change,” Trenberth said.

Scientists: Global warming is not causing harsh winter weather

As one university-based climatologist said: ‘Such claims make no sense’. The climate isn’t doing as predicted so far-fetched excuses are produced by climate alarm promoters. Recor…

tallbloke.wordpress.com

Mann is also a proponent of the Green New Deal and its claim that you can replace fossil fuels with wind and solar power.

Again, he is at odds with climate researchers like the "godfather of global warming," James Hansen, who says it is impossible to phase out fossil fuels without a massive growth in nuclear power.

Nuclear power paves the only viable path forward on climate change

To solve the climate problem, policy must be based on facts and not prejudice. Alongside renewables, Nuclear will make the difference between the world missing crucial climate targets or achieving them

www.theguardian.com

 

[Darts]

As an educated and intelligent person, I don't need to quote scientists to describe an obvious example of the CBC pushing its biased agenda in a news story.

Then there are some people who only believe something if they see it on the Internet. LOL!

 

[AndrewX]

She's a lefty too, what courage to go against the stream.

Tara Henley told Fox News Digital, 'I have no problem with the woke worldview being in the room... but it can't be the only voice in the room'


Producer who quit Canadian broadcaster over ‘radical political agenda’ says American outlets have same issue


Veteran producer Tara Henley, who resigned from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation this week after claiming the network abandoned journalistic integrity to embrace "a radical political agenda," has noticed similar problems at American news organizations.

"My focus is Canadian media, but I do read quite a lot of the American media as well… I think it's very polarized, and I think on both sides of the spectrum, the working class needs more voice and more representation, and it troubles me," Henley told Fox News Digital.

"We're not talking to enough people and the views are very limited. They're very narrative-driven, and it's not healthy for democracy," Henley continued. "I have no problem with the woke worldview being in the room. I think we should reflect that view, but it can't be the only voice in the room."

Henley, who identifies as a liberal herself, published her scathing resignation announcement on Substsack, detailing a newsroom stifled by far-left ideology that limits critical thinking and obsesses over race. In her piece, Henley blamed "a radical political agenda that originated on Ivy League campuses in the United States and spread through American social media platforms" whose proponents "monetize outrage and stoke societal divisions" for setting the tone of current media outlets such as the CBC. She feels that too many newsroom-decision makers are products of the prestigious universities that helped create the issue in the first place.

"I mean, this used to be a working class profession… this is now an elite profession. And we in the media are living alongside and working alongside and having our kids go to school with the other elite," she said. "How can you possibly be adversarial when you're in that same world? Our job is to question."

Henley’s Substack entry quickly went viral, and while she had a feeling it would start a conversation in Canada, she had "absolutely no idea" it would garner global attention.

"I think the most heartening thing about this experience is hearing from our fellow journalists … I have been getting so many messages from across the country and, now, around the world. And these are people of very different political persuasions, and I have been incredibly heartened to hear that we're all wanting a better media," she said. "We are all wanting a media that reflects more views, that includes more people that talk to more people across our countries."

The Toronto-based Henley, who joined Canada’s public broadcaster in 2013, said several "prominent American journalists" have reached out to her since her essay put a spotlight on a "woke" worldview infiltrating newsrooms. The feedback has helped her realize she’s hardly alone in thinking things need to change quickly.

"I’m kind of most amazed by this is how resonant these issues are in different cultural context. This is a problem that we're dealing with all across the western world," Henley said, noting that extreme partisanship isn’t only an issue for left-wing organizations.

"This is also an issue on the right," she said. "We're very polarized."

Producer who quit Canadian broadcaster over ‘radical political agenda’ says American outlets have same issue

The longtime producer who recently walked away from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, claiming it abandoned journalistic integrity to embrace "a radical political agenda,” told Fox News Digital she sees similar problems at American news organizations.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Darts]

"In her piece, Henley blamed "a radical political agenda that originated on Ivy League campuses in the United States and spread through American social media platforms" whose proponents "monetize outrage and stoke societal divisions" for setting the tone of current media outlets such as the CBC. She feels that too many newsroom-decision makers are products of the prestigious universities that helped create the issue in the first place."

These folks are easily offended by anything, want to be offended, need to be offended and feel they should be offended. While I agree with them wholly or partially on a few issues, they go way overboard on too many other issues.

The problem is they create divisiveness and they don't actually produce or fix anything that we actually need and/or use in our daily lives. I mean they don't build or repair houses or cars or appliances. They don't grow food. I doubt they can fix your heart or teeth. Kind of useless beings.

 

[bver_hunter]

Michael Mann, the fake "Nobel laureate" (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/michael-manns-false-nobel-claim-charles-c-w-cooke/), is an extremist who does tremendous damage to the case being made by climate researchers. His militancy and partisan agenda make it impossible for him to be taken seriously as an objective researcher.

Indeed, he is often at odds with like-minded climate researchers because of his outrageous claims. For example, fellow researchers Kevin Trenberth and Cliff Mass challenged his claim four years ago that harsh snow and cold weather were being caused by climate change.

"Winter storms are a manifestation of winter, not climate change,” Trenberth said.

Scientists: Global warming is not causing harsh winter weather

As one university-based climatologist said: ‘Such claims make no sense’. The climate isn’t doing as predicted so far-fetched excuses are produced by climate alarm promoters. Recor…

tallbloke.wordpress.com

Mann is also a proponent of the Green New Deal and its claim that you can replace fossil fuels with wind and solar power.

Again, he is at odds with climate researchers like the "godfather of global warming," James Hansen, who says it is impossible to phase out fossil fuels without a massive growth in nuclear power.

Nuclear power paves the only viable path forward on climate change

To solve the climate problem, policy must be based on facts and not prejudice. Alongside renewables, Nuclear will make the difference between the world missing crucial climate targets or achieving them

www.theguardian.com

This was Mann's credentials where he was the chief contributor to the IPCC that resulted with the IPCC presenting him with the personalized certificate for the contribution that resulted in IPCC receiving that Nobel Prize:

The IPCC presented Mann, along with all other "scientists that had contributed substantially to the preparation of IPCC reports", with a personalized certificate "for contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC", celebrating the joint award of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize to the IPCC and to Al Gore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore

So he was part of the Association that received the Nobel Peace Prize. But look at the number of awards that he received in the link. That BS about him being an "extremist" only comes from the extreme alt right wing POV!!

Michael E. Mann - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

CICS-NC Hosts Dr. Michael Mann :: North Carolina Institute for Climate Studies

ncics.org

Really Trenberth was "challenging" Mann's version that "harsh snow and cold weather were being caused by climate change"??

Then why did Trenberth come up with this Lecture in 2018:

The climate is changing because of human activities, and the main changes are from the increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which affect the natural flows of energy through the climate system. As a result there is an energy imbalance at the top-of-atmosphere, and the main changes result from the accumulated effects of the heat, most of which end up in the ocean. Hence, the air is warmer and moister over the oceans and this affects all storms, which produce heavier rains, or snows, and more intense storms. In drought areas, droughts become more intense and the risk of wild fire increases. 2017 is by far the warmest year on record for the global ocean heat content down to 2000 m depth. The ocean was also at record heat levels in the Gulf of Mexico prior to the summer of 2017, and it set the stage for a very active hurricane season. While hurricanes are natural phenomena, they play a role of pumping heat out of the ocean, into the atmosphere, but this results in heavy rains and more intense storms. For the first time for any storm, we can match the heat loss by Harvey with the record rainfall in Harvey. Hence Harvey, Irma and Maria were supersized, and the damage was in the hundreds of billions of dollars. However, the lack of preparedness in Texas, Florida, the Caribbean Islands and Puerto Rico, given the known threats, greatly exacerbated the damage. We can mitigate climate change by cutting emissions. We also need to adapt to climate change, which will occur to some degree anyway. Or we can suffer the consequences.

https://www.odu.edu/content/dam/odu/col-dept/ocean-earth/docs/kevin-trenberth-seminar.pdf

OIC that was based on a Extreme right wing Climate Denial blog. But show us a real link where they dispute Michael Mann's version especially after the above lecture being presented in 2018. Please post a credible link instead, okay??

Here we see the threats on his life by the Climate Change Denier Thugs:

Michael Mann Fought Climate Denial. Now He’s Fighting Climate Doom. - Cal Alumni Association

The climatologist is taking on both the fossil fuel lobby and those who think the climate fight is futile. ONE AUGUST AFTERNOON IN 2010, Michael Mann was opening mail in his office at Penn State University when a dusting of white powder emerged from an envelope. At first he thought it was his...

alumni.berkeley.edu

 

[Frankfooter]

Michael Mann, the fake "Nobel laureate" (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/michael-manns-false-nobel-claim-charles-c-w-cooke/), is an extremist

Michael Mann is a Nobel winning, well respected scientist.
His credentials alone total more than every columnist and retired geography prof you've used as a source here.
Clearly you have no idea what makes a source respectable.

Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science
Director, Earth System Science Center

Biographical Sketch:
Dr. Michael E. Mann is Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science at Penn State, with joint appointments in the Department of Geosciences and the Earth and Environmental Systems Institute (EESI). He is also director of the Penn State Earth System Science Center (ESSC).

Dr. Mann received his undergraduate degrees in Physics and Applied Math from the University of California at Berkeley, an M.S. degree in Physics from Yale University, and a Ph.D. in Geology & Geophysics from Yale University. His research involves the use of theoretical models and observational data to better understand Earth's climate system.

Dr. Mann was a Lead Author on the Observed Climate Variability and Change chapter of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Third Scientific Assessment Report in 2001 and was organizing committee chair for the National Academy of Sciences Frontiers of Science in 2003. He has received a number of honors and awards including NOAA's outstanding publication award in 2002 and selection by Scientific American as one of the fifty leading visionaries in science and technology in 2002. He contributed, with other IPCC authors, to the award of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. He was awarded the Hans Oeschger Medal of the European Geosciences Union in 2012 and was awarded the National Conservation Achievement Award for science by the National Wildlife Federation in 2013. He made Bloomberg News' list of fifty most influential people in 2013. In 2014, he was named Highly Cited Researcher by the Institute for Scientific Information (ISI) and received the Friend of the Planet Award from the National Center for Science Education. He received the Stephen H. Schneider Award for Outstanding Climate Science Communication from Climate One in 2017, the Award for Public Engagement with Science from the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 2018 and the Climate Communication Prize from the American Geophysical Union in 2018. In 2019 he received the Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement and in 2020 he received the World Sustainability Award of the MDPI Sustainability Foundation. He was elected to the U.S. National Academy of Sciences in 2020. He received the Leo Szilard Award of the American Physical Society in 2021. He is a Fellow of the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Society, the Geological Society of America, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry. He is also a co-founder of the award-winning science website RealClimate.org.

Dr. Mann is author of more than 200 peer-reviewed and edited publications, numerous op-eds and commentaries, and five books including Dire Predictions: Understanding Climate Change, The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines, The Madhouse Effect: How Climate Change Denial is Threatening our Planet, Destroying Our Politics, and Driving Us Crazy, The Tantrum that Saved the World and The New Climate War: The Fight to Take Back Our Planet.

 

[Darts]

Henley, who identifies as a liberal herself,

Yes, a rarity. A liberal with integrity. Jane Philpott is another liberal (maybe former liberal now) with integrity. When she resigned she said "personal integrity is more important than party (liberal) loyalty".

 

[basketcase]

...

Name that law please
...

In school we had a dumb assignment to create one of these by hand. They're pretty useful though.

Online Interactive Psychrometric Chart

A convenient, precise and customizable psychrometric chart & calculator tool for HVAC engineers. Support IP and SI units.

www.flycarpet.net

Poker, welcome to the wonder that is Jonny Larue. Love these guys who use big words and pretend they are smarter than all the experts.

 

[canada-man]

Television | CBC TV is a shambles: Nobody watches TV out of patriotism - Tv (headtopics.com)

LILLEY: Canadians are ditching CBC, so why do we keep funding it? | Toronto Sun


Whether we are talking audience share or advertising revenue, CBC is a broadcaster in decline.

Did you know that across Canada, over a total of 27 stations coast to coast, the average audience for CBC’s supper hour newscast was 329,000 people? That’s not 329,000 people per market, that is across the country.

Compare that to just one of CTV’s local supper hour newscasts, CFTO in Toronto, which averaged 1.4 million viewers per night in the first week of 2020. That doesn’t include other major markets like Vancouver, Montreal, Calgary or Ottawa where CTV outstrips CBC. It doesn’t include Global News, which is dominant in Western Canada and like CTV doesn’t take a $1.5 billion per year subsidy from the taxpayers.

These CBC ratings aren’t numbers that I’ve made up, they were contained in CBC’s most recent annual report and highlighted by Ottawa-based media outlet Blacklock’s Reporter.


Other nuggets in that annual report include that CBC’s prime-time audience share in television was 5%, down from 7.6% in 2017-18. We also learned that CBC News Network’s total audience share is 1.4% of all TV viewers.

These slumping ratings mean slumping ad sales, the report says advertising revenue is down 21% overall — the decline in English Canada was actually much bigger, a 37% drop. If it were not for CBC’s French language division having a pretty good year, things would have been much worse.

Ad revenues dropped from $318.2 million in 2018 to $248.7 million in 2019 and things are not likely to get better. Well, except for the increase in government revenue.