It is totally ILLOGICAL to draw that, or any conclusion when, as you just mentioned, we do not know how much effect other factors may have had. That is exactly what I've been saying all along. Thanks for finally agreeing.
Texas Covid cases going down after relaxing mask law coupled with multiple factors
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Haven't you yet learned that being outdoors has been stated to be something like 20X safer than inside a poorly ventilated place indoors?
The fans at a game, therefore, may be much safer than being at home.
Which means that's a factor towards a decrease in total infections.
And don't forget the ever increasing vaccinations in Texas. That's another factor decreasing infections.
That's the myopic view of one with a head stuck in the sand. Not the little one.Actually logic would tell you that when masks were made mandatory in Ontario and cases skyrocketed, and then mask laws were relaxed in Texas and new cases didnt go up (they kept going down), that those silly surgical masks most people wear makes ZERO difference in Covid transmission.
But you have to think logically and rationally though
It ignores all the other factors such as vaccinations, weather, testing numbers, etc.
You assume without evidence that 20% less people were wearing masks after the mandate was dropped, and make the ridiculous claim that a 20% decrease in mask usage should equal a 20% increase in infections.
If tomorrow people in Vancouver were allowed to go maskless in stores, then i might compensate for that increased danger by keeping a larger distance away from those who chose to enter unprotected, or go to the store when there are fewer, if any, people there. Many Texans may be doing the same thing since the mask mandate was lifted.
With recent news of new VOC in the USA & abroad, people in Texas who were not wearing masks during the mandate may be doing so since it was lifted.
The real situation with infections & their causes is far more complex than simple Dr Phil tries to make it.
Except I'm not agreeing with you.
Any logical person would conclude masks made no difference
Cases continue decline. Yesterday they went below 1,000Here, you can all just look at the actual data if you want and argue from there.
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As you can see, it even tracks the openings and closings.
As you can see when zoomed in, things have been pretty flat for the last month or so
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"The other factor" is most likely the prevalence of Covid among the general population that was asymptomatic and was simply never detected. I've seen numbers as high as 100 million cases for the US alone. The natural immunity combined with the aggressive vaccination program are the most likely reasons for the case drop.
So they changed what you have been trying to say all along? I sounds like they are saying that you cannot look at masks as a stand alone entity (as you have been doing) and one must consider other factors when discussing the rate of infection.
Are you going to give them one of your classic "You mad, bro?"
.I never said there werent other factors, I only said most masks people are currently wearing doesnt make any impact of infection rates whatsoever.
You mad, bro??
So you admit that other factors come into play (and undeniably those factors fluctuate) and you have also admitted that you don't know HOW much they come into play, yet in some magical way you know exactly how masks have impacted the variable rates of infection.
Not only illogical but actually impossible.
At your request, eh?
Finally seeing the light & turning away from the dark side of the force, Darth Nasty?
LOL.
The natural immunity in non vaccinated people who have recovered from covid19 is ever growing in Texas, so that's another factor keeping vulnerable Texans safer from being infected in addition to the ever growing numbers who have immunity via vaccines, correct. These factors have been working, more & more, in Texas to keep the numbers of infections etc down.
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So down here the CDC has just said fully vaccinated folks don't need to wear masks anymore. Not much noticeable since all businesses I know about still requires them. Nothing says you CAN'T wear a mask, so I'm sticking with it for awhile. If it makes me look odd, it won't be the first time...
Not only in Texas. I haven't have as much as a runny nose since December of 2019 and my bout with the worst "flue" of my life. Judging by my symptoms, I'd say I had the early version of Covid. I have hobbied, I've been in crowds and people who were diagnosed with Covid- I've never had as much as a sniffle. I'm planning to get a shot after the lineups dissipate.
Yup. I'm basing my opinion on the data that we have and offer it as the most likely conclusion
Look at the decline between Jan 14 and mid-March (when the mandate officially ended). While masks were mandatory, cases decreased by 79%.Cases continue decline. Yesterday they went below 1,000
That massive decrease was lost after the mandate ended and the slight decline since then seems to be consistent with vaccination rates than anything to do with masks.
