2020-21 Maple Leafs Thread

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So now we're comparing the Leafs to a non cup contender, that should make everyone feel good.
 

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You obviously missed the point.
Can't believe I have to explain this to you.
When Leafs beat Calgary someone was upset and wanted to know why Calgary didn't hit the Leafs because the League Office knows this is the way to beat the Leafs. So the point is take a look at Calgary's hit count.
Point number 2 more hitters is not the be all end all. Skill matters.

Take a look at the Canadian Division thread.
I do a comparison of Toronto and Montreal.
It will make you feel better.
No, I think YOU missed the point.
All this meaningless analysis is worth shit.
Forget about their division, all the serious contenders are outside this division.

And btw, it's not an either/or argument, skill vs hitting, how juvenile is that thinking?
It's about balance, and I don't mean skill guys and hitters, it's about having guys that can play AND get dirty.
Comparing Nylander and Bennett, what a joke, why don't you compare Nylander and Pastrnak.
You think Boston had more talent than the Leafs both years they got knocked out in the first round?
You think Columbus had more talent than the Leafs last year when they got knocked out in the first round?
I don't give a shit about winning the division, I only give a shit about winning the cup.

You guys have been jerking off for the last three years, at least own up to that fact.
 
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Forget about their division, all the serious contenders are outside this division.

ESPN ranks NHL teams weekly, guess which teams are 2nd/3rd s of today?

Why, that would be the Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Maple Leafs, respectively.
They're nestled in right behind the reigning Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay Lightning.

 
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ESPN ranks NHL teams weekly, guess which teams are 2nd/3rd s of today?

Why, that would be the Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Maple Leafs, respectively.
They're nestled in right behind the reigning Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay Lightning.

Those rankings don’t mean anything...
 

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No, I think YOU missed the point.
All this meaningless analysis is worth shit.
Forget about their division, all the serious contenders are outside this division.

And btw, it's not an either/or argument, skill vs hitting, how juvenile is that thinking?
It's about balance, and I don't mean skill guys and hitters, it's about having guys that can play AND get dirty.
Comparing Nylander and Bennett, what a joke, why don't you compare Nylander and Pastrnak.
You think Boston had more talent than the Leafs both years they got knocked out in the first round?
You think Columbus had more talent than the Leafs last year when they got knocked out in the first round?
I don't give a shit about winning the division, I only give a shit about winning the cup.

You guys have been jerking off for the last three years, at least own up to that fact.
Ok, I’ll owe up to it...I’ve been jerking off for a lot longer than three years!
 
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Those rankings don’t mean anything...
They must mean something, otherwise why would ESPN pay Emily Kaplan to write them?

As I mentioned, it's an opinion piece.

It does have some validity, the eye test looking at the standings will tell you teams ranked near the top of the listing have had better starts to the season than those lower down.
 

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ESPN ranks NHL teams weekly, guess which teams are 2nd/3rd s of today?

Why, that would be the Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Maple Leafs, respectively.
They're nestled in right behind the reigning Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay Lightning.

Lol!!!!
 

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They must mean something, otherwise why would ESPN pay Emily Kaplan to write them?

As I mentioned, it's an opinion piece.

It does have some validity, the eye test looking at the standings will tell you teams ranked near the top of the listing have had better starts to the season than those lower down.
It means nothing because you still have to get in the playoffs and win your games...no one in any NHL dressing room celebrates ESPN rankings.

All you have to do is look at the league standings to see who is playing better than others...
 
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They are as accurate as me saying right now that the Habs will win the Stanley cup this year. It makes sense but it's not based on any logic whatsoever ;)
You are right...ESPN rankings mean as much as you saying the Scabs will win the Stanley Cup...
 

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You are right...ESPN rankings mean as much as you saying the Scabs will win the Stanley Cup...
Yeah right ;)

The only thing they get right is when they say the Leafs last won the stanley cup men had not yet put steps on the moon :ROFLMAO:
 

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“When Leafs beat Calgary someone was upset and wanted to know why Calgary didn't hit ...”
I take it that you’re referring to my post in which I expressed “surprise” that Calgary didn’t hit as much. In fact I was happy the Leafs won and you’re just twisting the truth to make a point. If anyone is upset, it’s you that always seem to have troubles expressing an opinion without sounding like a jilted and disgruntled wife.
 
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No, I think YOU missed the point.
All this meaningless analysis is worth shit.
Forget about their division, all the serious contenders are outside this division.
It means nothing because you still have to get in the playoffs and win your games...no one in any NHL dressing room celebrates ESPN rankings.

All you have to do is look at the league standings to see who is playing better than others...
It is never meant to be a predictor. But it is simply an assessment at that point in time. It fluctuates as the season goes on and shows teams trending up and down.

What's the big deal if people want to discuss "who's been the best teams so far"? That's all it is and all it's meant to be.
 

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It is never meant to be a predictor. But it is simply an assessment at that point in time. It fluctuates as the season goes on and shows teams trending up and down.

What's the big deal if people want to discuss "who's been the best teams so far"? That's all it is and all it's meant to be.
It's no big deal at all, you want to have the discussion on who's been good or bad, go ahead...I use the standings as an indicator of who's been good and bad...the standings actually mean something, ESPN's rankings mean nothing.
 

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It is never meant to be a predictor. But it is simply an assessment at that point in time. It fluctuates as the season goes on and shows teams trending up and down.

What's the big deal if people want to discuss "who's been the best teams so far"? That's all it is and all it's meant to be.
Tell that to gman.
 

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I wouldn't say it means nothing. It's a comparison of teams that don't play each other all season that also don't play the same teams.
Pretty close to nothing...the rankings were made by one person, it's not like it was a poll of coaches and players.

You think any team was talking about where they are ranked...you think the Montreal dressing room said, "Hey guys, great news, ESPN has us ranked 2nd"...they don't give a sit and well they shouldn't, it means absolutely zero.
 

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Pretty close to nothing...the rankings were made by one person, it's not like it was a poll of coaches and players.

You think any team was talking about where they are ranked...you think the Montreal dressing room said, "Hey guys, great news, ESPN has us ranked 2nd"...they don't give a sit and well they shouldn't, it means absolutely zero.
For teams with championship aspirations, the 56 regular season games are just like an extended training camp and rehearsals for the playoffs. Its also time to find out what pieces they need to add to have a good playoff run.

I’d like to think that the Leafs are one of those teams unless they start to fall off the cliff like they did in the final year with Carlyle as the coach. As such I don’t think they care if they finish 1st or 2nd as long as they’re playing well and healthy heading into the playoffs. So all these talks about how they‘re ranked are pretty much meaningless. Especially only after 10 games.
 
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