Zeinab Soleimani on Her Father’s Assassination

[basketcase]

No, it wasn't CSIS that called for labelling Iran as terrorists, as you already said, it was political and not because of anything they did.
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And back to your anti-semitic claims that Jewish groups manipulated the government and trying to change the topic to blame Israel.

What's the matter, were you to afraid to look at the sources I posted as to why Solemeini's group was designated a terrorist entity? Do you realize how pathetic it is to look at an article titled "Quds Force Extensive Record of Assassinations and Bombings" and claim there's no evidence.

 

[Frankfooter]

And back to your anti-semitic claims that Jewish groups manipulated the government and trying to change the topic to blame Israel

Back to your trope that you think because one group had influence on one policy they control the government.
Give it a rest unless you have real evidence to back up this claim.

What's the matter, were you to afraid to look at the sources I posted as to why Solemeini's group was designated a terrorist entity? Do you realize how pathetic it is to look at an article titled "Quds Force Extensive Record of Assassinations and Bombings" and claim there's no evidence.

1) The first example of that article was a crime they attributed to Hezbollah yet still claimed it was Quds. Its not worth going further after that.
2) Now that you also admit assassination and bombing are terrorism, its time to add Israeli assassinations and bombings in Gaza and the West Bank to charges of terrorism for Israel.

All you're doing here is proving that Israel is by your own metrics, far worse terrorists.
Again, I say take your articles and evidence to the ICC, maybe after they're done investigating Israel they'll have time to look at them.
In the meantime, all you're doing is proving that you support terrorism, you use the term politically to demonize and justify further terrorism and you are against the rule of law.

 

[basketcase]

Back to your trope that you think because one group had influence on one policy they control the government.
Give it a rest unless you have real evidence to back up this claim.




1) The first example of that article was a crime they attributed to Hezbollah yet still claimed it was Quds. Its not worth going further after that.
2) Now that you also admit assassination and bombing are terrorism, its time to add Israeli assassinations and bombings in Gaza and the West Bank to charges of terrorism for Israel.

All you're doing here is proving that Israel is by your own metrics, far worse terrorists.
Again, I say take your articles and evidence to the ICC, maybe after they're done investigating Israel they'll have time to look at them.
In the meantime, all you're doing is proving that you support terrorism, you use the term politically to demonize and justify further terrorism and you are against the rule of law.

You're the one making the claim that they are only considered terrorists because a Jewish group lobbied the government, not me.

And why do you keep arguing with the Canadian experts who determined Solemeini group is a terrorist entity?

 

[Frankfooter]

You're the one making the claim that they are only considered terrorists because a Jewish group lobbied the government, not me.

And why do you keep arguing with the Canadian experts who determined Solemeini group is a terrorist entity?

Trump just declared Cuba a terrorist state.
Are you going to argue that's because of some attack over the last month or was it political?

Iran was attacked, the US assassinated one leader and then Israel assassinated another, acts have now declared terrorist acts.
Iran didn't respond instead they've decided to go to Interpol.

You've already stated you think their declaration was political so why do you thinks is antisemitic to note that Bnai Brith made a public call and even sued the government for these changes?
Its not a trope to note public calls for action by lobbying groups, give it a rest.

Meanwhile you continue to defend actions that you've declared are those of terrorists and that armies and leaders can now be labelled as terrorists.
Israel and the IDF fit your terms even more than Iran, and in fact its Israel that is looking at charges at the ICC right now, not Iran.
All you're doing is digging yourself deeper in this hole.

Just stop backing terrorism.

 

[basketcase]

Trump just declared Cuba a terrorist state.
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Trump is not the Canadian government. is that too hard for you to understand?

All this effort from you trying to pretend the IRGC Qods Force isn't a terrorist entity and instead trying to blame Israel.

If you want to test this, try sending a cheque to them and see whether the Canadian courts accept your defence claims that they are only considered terrorists because of a Jewish group.

 

[Frankfooter]

Trump is not the Canadian government. is that too hard for you to understand?

All this effort from you trying to pretend the IRGC Qods Force isn't a terrorist entity and instead trying to blame Israel.

If you want to test this, try sending a cheque to them and see whether the Canadian courts accept your defence claims that they are only considered terrorists because of a Jewish group.

I asked you to list the crimes they committed that you think make them deserve the label 'terrorist'.
You've come up with nothing, they deserve the label apparently as much as Cuba does.

I gave you 200 deaths and 14,000 injured by Israel in comparison.
All you've done is establish the fact that you used the label politically and can't defend its use against Israel.
In effect you've shown your accusation is nonsense and you are the supporter of terrorism.

Meanwhile, B'teselem has come out with a new report.

A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid

More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...

www.btselem.org

There is no denial anymore, Israel is apartheid and you support apartheid and terrorism.

 

[basketcase]

I asked you to list the crimes they committed that you think make them deserve the label 'terrorist'.
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It says a lot that you keep trying to claim Canada is wrong to consider Solemeini's crew terrorists because you simply refuse to look at the facts. It's like when you were trying to defend Hamas and every time I listed Hamas terror attacks, you made claims like buses were military targets, Jewish civilians in the West Bank aren't really civilians, and my favourite, rockets fired indiscriminately at civilian populations were only a war crime, not terrorism.

IRGC Qods Force is considered terrorist because the Canadian experts saw their involvement in terrorism, not because a Jewish group lobbied the government.


Meanwhile you pathetically try to make everything an attack on Israel. The only attacks on Israel that fit the topic are the attacks by Islamic Jihad and Hamas that were funded and supported by Solemeini.

 

[Frankfooter]

It says a lot that you keep trying to claim Canada is wrong to consider Solemeini's crew terrorists because you simply refuse to look at the facts.

I asked for the facts and you couldn't provide them, so I showed you examples of facts and evidence of terrorism.
This is terrorism, you couldn't find any example anywhere near as devastating as this series of attacks that you defended.

Meanwhile you pathetically try to make everything an attack on Israel. The only attacks on Israel that fit the topic are the attacks by Islamic Jihad and Hamas that were funded and supported by Solemeini.

Iran, Iran, Iran.
Forget it, nobody cares, they haven't attacked anyone and even when Israel and the US tried to goad them into a war all they did was go to Interpol.

You need to either tell us why you defend apartheid, one crime against humanity down from genocide, or start working to stop it.

 

[basketcase]

Your coninual defense of Iran is so interesting.

Iran kills a bunch of Canadians by shooting down a plane and you say it's the US's fault, not the people who pushed the button.
Iran restarts their extremely provocative nuclear activities and you blame the US, not the people choosing to eject IAEA inspectors or enrich to 20%.
An Iranian terrorist leader gets killed and you say the only reason he was considered a terrorist is because a Jewish group made the government lie.

And add in your usual attempts to turn every thread into part of your obsessive hatred of Israel. Keep spamming your Jew hatred while making excuses for despicable actors that Canada's government censures.

 

[Frankfooter]

Your coninual defense of Iran is so interesting.

Iran kills a bunch of Canadians by shooting down a plane and you say it's the US's fault, not the people who pushed the button.
Iran restarts their extremely provocative nuclear activities and you blame the US, not the people choosing to eject IAEA inspectors or enrich to 20%.
An Iranian terrorist leader gets killed and you say the only reason he was considered a terrorist is because a Jewish group made the government lie.

And add in your usual attempts to turn every thread into part of your obsessive hatred of Israel. Keep spamming your Jew hatred while making excuses for despicable actors that Canada's government censures.

Your continual attacks on Iran are interesting.
You can't even say what it is they did, all you do is parrot right winger talking points to justify a war.

All I'm doing is putting your attacks in context, by highlighting your moral quagmire.
Every crime you accuse of Iran you excuse of Israel, with the exception of apartheid and the occupation, both of which you just refuse to discuss.

Just like this thread, where you refuse to discuss the B'teselem report labelling Israel apartheid while the charges of apartheid are sitting on the desk at the ICC.

When are you going to admit you're backing apartheid?

 

[basketcase]

Your continual attacks on Iran are interesting.
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Do you deny that Iran has decided to enrich to 20% and stated they will eject IAEA inspectors?
Do you deny that Iran's military shot down a plane with 57 Canadians?
Do you deny that Canada has considered Solemeini's group terrorists since 2012?

Oh sorry, would that interfere with your obsession?

 

[Frankfooter]

Do you deny that Iran has decided to enrich to 20% and stated they will eject IAEA inspectors?
Do you deny that Iran's military shot down a plane with 57 Canadians?
Do you deny that Canada has considered Solemeini's group terrorists since 2012?

Oh sorry, would that interfere with your obsession?

Iran has stated they will enrich to 20% to fuel their US made research reactor, according to the NPT its allowed.
Iran shot down a civilian plane they mistook for a US cruise missile after the US assassination of Solemeini.
Canada made what you confirm was a political decision, not based on acts, to label only Quds as terrorists in 2012. Its as useful as the US just labelling Cuba as terrorists, its politics meant to justify war crimes.

Do you deny that Israel's leading human rights organization just declared Israel to be apartheid?
Do you deny that the UN has published a report finding Israel to be apartheid?
Do you deny that the charges of apartheid are being considered by the ICC?
Do you deny that you have defended apartheid here for years?

 

[basketcase]

Iran has stated they will enrich to 20% to fuel their US made research reactor, according to the NPT its allowed.
Iran shot down a civilian plane they mistook for a US cruise missile after the US assassination of Solemeini.
Canada made what you confirm was a political decision, not based on acts, to label only Quds as terrorists in 2012. Its as useful as the US just labelling Cuba as terrorists, its politics meant to justify war crimes.
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Thanks for confirming you refusing to criticize Iran even when they kill Canadian civilians. thanks for continuing to lie about your anti-semitic conspiracy theory.

Don't know where you get the idea I agree it was political. They were declared terrorists because of the Canadian security agencies saw more than enough evidence of their terrorism.

 

[Frankfooter]

Don't know where you get the idea I agree it was political.

Right here, where I asked you what acts justified calling Iran terrorists and you said it was only because it was politically declared.

Simple fact is I call Solemeini's IRGC Qods Force terrorists because that is how Canada has defined them.

That was in comparison to the numerous acts of terrorism I was able to list, including these
The Great march of Return
The 2014 slaughter in Gaza

Now that you've agreed that armies and leaders can be labelled as terrorists its probably time to petition Canada to label Israel an apartheid and terrorist state as well.

 

[basketcase]

Right here, where I asked you what acts justified calling Iran terrorists and you said it was only because it was politically declared.



That was in comparison to the numerous acts of terrorism I was able to list, including these
The Great march of Return
The 2014 slaughter in Gaza

Now that you've agreed that armies and leaders can be labelled as terrorists its probably time to petition Canada to label Israel an apartheid and terrorist state as well.

Wow. Illiteracy is a bigger problem then I expected.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/let-s-get-digital-from-bitcoin-to-stocktok-plus-what-low-literacy-means-for-canada-s-economy-1.5873703/nearly-half-of-adult-canadians-struggle-with-literacy-and-that-s-bad-for-the-economy-1.5873757

Canada's experts have looked at the IRGC Qods Force and because of the terrorism they saw they put them on the list of terrorist entities. Are you going to stick with your claims that Iran's group is considered terrorists and Israel isn't because of Jewish manipulation or are you going to finally admit that maybe Canada's terrorism experts know what they're talking about? But hey, if you have information disproving CSIS's view of the Qods Force, maybe you should go have a chat with them.

 

[Frankfooter]

Canada's experts have looked at the IRGC Qods Force and because of the terrorism they saw they put them on the list of terrorist entities. Are you going to stick with your claims that Iran's group is considered terrorists and Israel isn't because of Jewish manipulation or are you going to finally admit that maybe Canada's terrorism experts know what they're talking about? But hey, if you have information disproving CSIS's view of the Qods Force, maybe you should go have a chat with them.

Canada says 'facilitated' without any direct lists of acts.
Which means that Israel are by far worse terrorists, given their acts against Palestinians in 2014 in Gaza and the Great March of Return.
Those are direct acts of terrorism ordered by the IDF and the leaders of the country.

I assume that since you support the rule of law you'll also agree that Canada should look at whether Israel should be listed as terrorists as well, based on those acts and the war crimes being investigated now by the ICC. B'nai Brith's lobbying may have gotten IRGC listed but they also had the rules changed and now states should be judged as terrorists, as you also now support.

Terrorism and apartheid.
That is what you are now supporting, so if you think Canada should continue to list countries and armies as terrorists, you are going to have to defend Israel from those same charges.

Nice work.

You can yell about Iran all day long, but you need to answer why you back apartheid and terrorism first.

ThisisApartheid

עברית English العربية Over 14 million people live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, roughly half of them Jews and half Palestinians. It is commonly held that the area is divided into two separate regimes: Within the sovereign borders of Israel – a permanent democratic regime...

thisisapartheid.btselem.org

 

[basketcase]

Canada says 'facilitated' without any direct lists of acts.
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So maybe you should provide your research to them. I'm sure the CSIS experts on terrorism need your help to overcome the Jewish influence you think exists.

And I won't even bother pointing out your hypocrisy for condemning the US for military sales to Saudi as they facilitated civilian deaths but want to avoid condemning Iran for facilitating terrorism that targets civilians.


p.s. And yes, I do agree with Canada's definition of Kach as a terrorist entity. Even if I wasn't sure, I figure CSIS and the other intelligence agencies know more than I do. If Canada ever defines the IDF as a terrorist entity, I'll happily condemn them. Sadly you will continue to only describe things as terrorism if it fits your political crusade.

 

[Frankfooter]

p.s. And yes, I do agree with Canada's definition of Kach as a terrorist entity. Even if I wasn't sure, I figure CSIS and the other intelligence agencies know more than I do. If Canada ever defines the IDF as a terrorist entity, I'll happily condemn them. Sadly you will continue to only describe things as terrorism if it fits your political crusade.

The term terrorism is used mostly to justify committing more war crimes, like the US and Israel do, calling people 'terrorists' to justify assassinations, drone attacks and bombings.
Your use of the term is a good example, you used to refuse to use the term on states or armies, saying its not terrorism or at best its state terrorism.
But in order to justify more warmongering, you decided that its now ok to label countries, armies and leaders as terrorism.

So now you're stuck, since clearly the label fits Israel much better than it does Iran.
Just as you're stuck now that B'teselem has labelled Israel apartheid, its so bad that in the week or two since the report has come out you have totally refused to address it.

When it was the UN, you declared it a report by dictators, even though you now cheer for alliances with those same countries as the US sells them weapons in exchange for diplomacy.
When it was South Africa, you said it doesn't count.
But now that its Israel's leading human rights organization declaring their own country apartheid, you can't even discuss it.

 

[y2kmark]

2) Now that you also admit assassination and bombing are terrorism, its time to add Israeli assassinations and bombings in Gaza and the West Bank to charges of terrorism for Israel.

They were the pioneers in the terrorist bombing biz. Google St. David's Hotel...

 

[basketcase]

The term terrorism is used mostly to justify committing more war crimes...

So you admit you can't argue the facts and are looking for another excuse to avoid criticizing Solemeini and Iran. Myabe you should explain to CSIS that the Qods force and the Iraqi militias they work with bombing Sunni mosques wasn't terrorism but only a Western attempt to demonize them.