Zeinab Soleimani on Her Father’s Assassination

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Stop pushing these anti-semitic tropes, basketcase.
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No surprise you want me to stop calling you out on your transparent use of anti-semitism.

IRGC Qods Force, the group that Solemeini was in charge of, is a terrorist entity no matter how much you want to pretend it's because Jewish groups convinced politicians to lie.

Not only do you blame Jews for manipulating 'political' decisions but you seem to think they can time travel and force these decisions almost a decade before they started.

 

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p.s. Your hope that Israel gets declared a terrorist state seems even further away. Biden's UN pick said that BDS actions and approach are unacceptable and verges on anti-semitism. Is that because of Jewish manipulation too?

Biden’s UN envoy nominee: BDS activity ‘unacceptable, verges on anti-Semitic’

At Senate hearing, Linda Thomas-Greenfield pledges to combat 'unfair targeting of Israel,' encourage states that have normalized with Israel to back Jerusalem at world forums too

www.timesofisrael.com

 

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p.s. Your hope that Israel gets declared a terrorist state seems even further away. Biden's UN pick said that BDS actions and approach are unacceptable and verges on anti-semitism. Is that because of Jewish manipulation too?

Biden’s UN envoy nominee: BDS activity ‘unacceptable, verges on anti-Semitic’

At Senate hearing, Linda Thomas-Greenfield pledges to combat 'unfair targeting of Israel,' encourage states that have normalized with Israel to back Jerusalem at world forums too

www.timesofisrael.com

Biden's Israel position is as old as he is.
He's pushing for the two state solution, but we both know that died years ago.

At least he's not pushing annexation, that's one step forward but unfortunately its a step right back into 1980 or so.

But lets take your claim that BDS is anti-semitic?
That must mean you think Israel is only for the Jewish people, since that means you don't even count Palestinians as possibly effected by boycotts on Israel.
All you did is confirm that you believe Israel to be an apartheid state only for the Jewish people.

Apartheid is one crime against humanity down from genocide, by the way.


Canadians who are more likely to see criticism of Israel and Zionism as legitimate are also more likely to reject antisemitic statements about Jewish Canadians, and vice versa. “For too long, supporters of Israel have tried to claim that criticism of Israel is associated with support for antisemitic sentiments, but the opposite is true,” said George Bartlett, chair of UNJPPI. “In fact, it is those who are least tolerant of criticism of Israel that are more likely to believe that accusing Jews of controlling the media, for example, is legitimate.”

 

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Biden's Israel position is as old as he is.
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And I'm sure you think the Jews made him think that way. There's are also Trudeau's statements on BDS that also says it is contrary to Canadian values and often a home to anti-semites.


Meanwhile in the real world, Canada continues to consider the IRGC Qods Force a terrorist.

 

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And I'm sure you think the Jews made him think that way. There's are also Trudeau's statements on BDS that also says it is contrary to Canadian values and often a home to anti-semites.


Meanwhile in the real world, Canada continues to consider the IRGC Qods Force a terrorist.

Good luck trying to argue that boycotts are illegal or boycotts. Now that you've stated that you think Israel only represents the Jewish people, you're making the BDS case stronger.

Israel is also worried that Biden won't protect them from the ICC anymore.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/01/24/israel-to-ask-white-house-to-protect-it-from-icc-war-crimes-investigation/

In the real world Israel is threatening to attack Iran if they re-enter the JCPOA.

Will Israel attack Iran?

Israel’s military says it is preparing plans to attack Iran, but Tehran dismissed the claim as ‘psychological war’.

www.aljazeera.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1354722212524265474

 

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Good luck trying to argue that boycotts are illegal or boycotts. ...

Good luck trying to argue that the Solemeini's IRGC Qods Force isn't a terrorist group.

And where do I argue that boycotts should be illegal? You just don't like that multiple western countries including Canada have identified that particular boycott campaign as being deeply embedded with racists and racist motivation.

 

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Good luck trying to argue that the Solemeini's IRGC Qods Force isn't a terrorist group.

If you insist on using the term 'terrorist', then you have to admit that you are a terrorist supporter.
Clearly Israel commits way more actual acts of terrorism than Iran 'supports' terrorism, as Canada calls it.

State-backed Settler Violence

www.btselem.org

A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid

More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...

www.btselem.org

Israeli security forces killed 290 Palestinians in 2018; most were victims of a reckless open-fire policy

In 2018, Israeli security forces killed 290 Palestinians, including 55 minors. Of the casualties, 254 were killed in the Gaza Strip, 34 in the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and two within Israel. These incidents are a direct result of Israel’s reckless open-fire policy, authorized by the...

www.btselem.org

And where do I argue that boycotts should be illegal? You just don't like that multiple western countries including Canada have identified that particular boycott campaign as being deeply embedded with racists and racist motivation.

By 'embedded with racists' you mean it includes Palestinians, the people you think should be ruled by apartheid.

 

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If you insist on using the term 'terrorist', then you have to admit that you are a terrorist supporter.
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Hmm. Which one of us makes excuses for groups on Canada's list of designated terrorists?


p.s. In the other thread I agreed with you that Jewish youth throwing rocks ate Palestinian civilians is terrorism but you seemed to miss the part of the post where you chose not to describe Palestinian youth who throw rocks at Israeli civilians the same way.

 

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Hmm. Which one of us makes excuses for groups on Canada's list of designated terrorists?

Which one of us excuses actual terrorism, apartheid and crimes against humanity?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349029419868966915

The duty to end Israeli apartheid | Opinion | Opinion

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www.haaretz.com

Biden Must Face the Facts: Israel Is an Apartheid Regime

The leading human rights organization B’Tselem has now joined others in making that claim—one that will be difficult for the Biden administration to ignore or dismiss.

www.thenation.com

 

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Which one of us excuses actual terrorism, apartheid and crimes against humanity?
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You obviously. That's what the Canadian government says at least (no matter what your token Jews say).

And I notice you avoided commenting. You say it is terrorism when Jewish youths throw stones at Palestinians civilians. Do you also say it is terrorism when Palestinian youths throw stones at Jewish civilians.

 

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You obviously. That's what the Canadian government says at least (no matter what your token Jews say).

And I notice you avoided commenting. You say it is terrorism when Jewish youths throw stones at Palestinians civilians. Do you also say it is terrorism when Palestinian youths throw stones at Jewish civilians.

B'teselem are hardly 'token Jews', basketcase.
You know they are Israel's largest and most respected human rights organization.

I know you'd love to talk about throwing stones and events 20 years ago, but its time for you to discuss what's happening now.
Its way beyond stone throwing by either side, its apartheid.

ThisisApartheid

עברית English العربية Over 14 million people live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, roughly half of them Jews and half Palestinians. It is commonly held that the area is divided into two separate regimes: Within the sovereign borders of Israel – a permanent democratic regime...

thisisapartheid.btselem.org

 

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B'teselem ...

So you still want to avoid the topic of Solemeini being a terrorist and the leader of a designated terrorist entity?


And pathetic that you are pretending that Palestinian youth aren't still throwing stones at Israeli civilians the same way that Jewish youth aren't throwing stone sat Palestinian civilians? Are you more afraid of admitting there is terrorism from some Palestinians (as well as Jews) or are you more afraid of having your racist double-standard exposed once again?

 

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So you still want to avoid the topic of Solemeini being a terrorist and the leader of a designated terrorist entity?

We've been talking about the uselessness of this terrorism designation for 7 pages now, basketcase.
We've gone over and over the same points, with the last few pages dedicated to showing how contact fit the designation of terrorist after page after page of discussion about how Israel's acts justify them being listed as terrorists over Iran, as Israel actively commits terrorism against the Palestinians they occupy and rule through apartheid, while Iran gives 'support' to other groups listed as terrorists, and doesn't directly commit any terrorism.

Again, your failure to remember what's been said day after day I used to think was just dishonest debating techniques, but more and more its sounding like dementia.

And pathetic that you are pretending that Palestinian youth aren't still throwing stones at Israeli civilians the same way that Jewish youth aren't throwing stone sat Palestinian civilians? Are you more afraid of admitting there is terrorism from some Palestinians (as well as Jews) or are you more afraid of having your racist double-standard exposed once again?

Take them both to the ICC, basketcase.
Amnesty, HRW, B'teselem and PCHR all have endless lists of stone throwing, including documenting the IDF's role in supporting settler terrorism.
Take them all to the ICC.

Why are you so afraid to back a call to hold both sides equally to the law, basketcase?
Afraid of being called on apartheid?

 

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We've been talking about the uselessness of this terrorism designation for 7 pages now, basketcase.
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Actually you've been using anti-semitic tropes to pretend that Solemeini was not a terrorist and claiming it is wrong for Canada to IRGC Qods Force a terrorist organization.


p.s. Your 'both sides' to the ICC claims are just your pathetic attempts to avoid criticizing your heroic groups.

 

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Actually you've been using anti-semitic tropes to pretend that Solemeini was not a terrorist and claiming it is wrong for Canada to IRGC Qods Force a terrorist organization.


p.s. Your 'both sides' to the ICC claims are just your pathetic attempts to avoid criticizing your heroic groups.

No, its you that's been using tropes, basketcase.
You are the one that says when you use an example of one lobbying group having success on issue that means you think its slander on an entire people.
Me, I said its just one group and even provided other Jewish groups that oppose some of that lobbying group's actions.

Its a shame that the two things you fear most are both sides being held equally to the law and full equal rights coming to effect.
It takes your from liberal on most issues into Trumptard territory.
So sad.

 

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No, its you that's been using tropes, basketcase.
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I love how your response to being called out on your anti-semitic tropes is to devolve into playground, 'no you are' idiocy. Seems that no matter how many hours a day you spend on terb, you still can't admit that Canada's government considers Solemeini's IRGC Qods Force a terrorist entity.


And yes, you have proven a ridiculous double standard endlessly.

 

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I love how your response to being called out on your anti-semitic tropes is to devolve into playground, 'no you are' idiocy. Seems that no matter how many hours a day you spend on terb, you still can't admit that Canada's government considers Solemeini's IRGC Qods Force a terrorist entity.


And yes, you have proven a ridiculous double standard endlessly.

Why don't you explain how noting that one lobbying groups action one issue is a trope, basketcase.
We both know you use accusations of antisemitism to try to stop debate.

Its just pretty sad that while defending apartheid, the most serious form of racism next to genocide, your only defence left is to shout 'anti-semetism'.

 

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Why don't you explain how noting that one lobbying groups action one issue is a trope, basketcase.
We both know you use accusations of antisemitism to try to stop debate.

Its just pretty sad that while defending apartheid, the most serious form of racism next to genocide, your only defence left is to shout 'anti-semetism'.

We all know your antisemitism is the reason why you have a ridiculous double standard about Israel and routinely make excuses for any attacks on Israel r Israelis and it is indisputable that you have used multiple anti-semitic tropes in 2021 alone.

You have claimed that the IRGC Qods Force was falsely labelled a terrorist institution in 2012 is because a Canadian Jewish group in 2020.
You have claimed that Canadian Jews are secretly Israelis.
Added to your repeated arguments about Jews manipulating US policy and supported other people making those statements even when the people who made the statements admitted they were trops.

But while we're talking about Iran and terrorism, France just convicted an Iranian diplomat for a attempted bombing.

France bomb plot: Iran diplomat Assadollah Assadi sentenced to 20 years

Assadollah Assadi is convicted by a Belgian court of planning an attack on an opposition rally in 2018.

www.bbc.com

But I'm sure you think they only did so because a Jewish group made them.

 

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We all know your antisemitism is the reason why you have a ridiculous double standard about Israel and routinely make excuses for any attacks on Israel r Israelis and it is indisputable that you have used multiple anti-semitic tropes in 2021 alone.

I repeatedly say take Iran, Israel and Hamas all to the ICC and treat them the same.
I argue for equal rights.

That's the opposite of what you claim, basketcase.
Typical.

You have claimed that the IRGC Qods Force was falsely labelled a terrorist institution in 2012 is because a Canadian Jewish group in 2020.

No, I have only discussed the 2020 listing of the IRGC, not the 2012 listing.
Again, you are lying.

You have claimed that Canadian Jews are secretly Israelis.

No, you are lying again,

Added to your repeated arguments about Jews manipulating US policy and supported other people making those statements even when the people who made the statements admitted they were trops.

No, I have not said any such thing, you're lying again.

Your entire position is based on lying about what I say and then screaming 'anti-semite' at the top of your lungs.

While you've become team players with cantaro, jcpro and zailbetter.

Here's the deal, basketcase.
You support apartheid, as such any criticism of anyone else as racist or anti-semitic is nonsense.
Supporting apartheid puts you on the top of the heap of those supporting racist policies.

Canadians who are more likely to see criticism of Israel and Zionism as legitimate are also more likely to reject antisemitic statements about Jewish Canadians, and vice versa. “For too long, supporters of Israel have tried to claim that criticism of Israel is associated with support for antisemitic sentiments, but the opposite is true,” said George Bartlett, chair of UNJPPI. “In fact, it is those who are least tolerant of criticism of Israel that are more likely to believe that accusing Jews of controlling the media, for example, is legitimate.”

 

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I repeatedly say take Iran, Israel and Hamas all to the ICC and treat them the same.
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Yet you have spent tens of thousands of posts in three different handles complaining about Israel and never comment on groups like the IRGC and Hamas. When cornered, you say take it to the ICC to avoid actually criticizing your terrorist friends.

As stated in Canada's definition of anti-semitism, your blatant double standard and justifying attacks on Jews clearly shows who you are.