Zeinab Soleimani on Her Father’s Assassination

[Frankfooter]

So you admit you can't argue the facts and are looking for another excuse to avoid criticizing Solemeini and Iran.

That was you trying to avoid discussing Israeli apartheid again.

The term terrorism is used mostly to justify committing more war crimes, like the US and Israel do, calling people 'terrorists' to justify assassinations, drone attacks and bombings.
Your use of the term is a good example, you used to refuse to use the term on states or armies, saying its not terrorism or at best its state terrorism.
But in order to justify more warmongering, you decided that its now ok to label countries, armies and leaders as terrorism.

So now you're stuck, since clearly the label fits Israel much better than it does Iran.
Just as you're stuck now that B'teselem has labelled Israel apartheid, its so bad that in the week or two since the report has come out you have totally refused to address it.

When it was the UN, you declared it a report by dictators, even though you now cheer for alliances with those same countries as the US sells them weapons in exchange for diplomacy.
When it was South Africa, you said it doesn't count.
But now that its Israel's leading human rights organization declaring their own country apartheid, you can't even discuss it.

ThisisApartheid

עברית English العربية Over 14 million people live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, roughly half of them Jews and half Palestinians. It is commonly held that the area is divided into two separate regimes: Within the sovereign borders of Israel – a permanent democratic regime...

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[basketcase]

That was you trying to avoid discussing Israeli apartheid again.
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Amazing that in a thread specifically about Solemeini that you instead repeatedly spam your anti-Israel conspiracy theories.

Can you not

 

[Frankfooter]

Amazing that in a thread specifically about Solemeini that you instead repeatedly spam your anti-Israel conspiracy theories.

Can you not

Amazing that you call a report by Israel's leading human rights organization 'anti-Israel conspiracy theories'.

You really think this is a conspiracy theory?

ThisisApartheid

עברית English العربية Over 14 million people live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, roughly half of them Jews and half Palestinians. It is commonly held that the area is divided into two separate regimes: Within the sovereign borders of Israel – a permanent democratic regime...

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[basketcase]

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Do you ever wonder why people acknowledge your anti-semitic tendencies?> It might have something to do with you trying to change every thread critical of your buddies into a thread for your rabid diatribes?

Solemeini was a terrorist and his group, the IRGC Qods Force, is a terrorist entity because of their direct involvement in terrorism and not because of Jewish control like you force yourself to believe.

 

[Frankfooter]

Do you ever wonder why people acknowledge your anti-semitic tendencies?> It might have something to do with you trying to change every thread critical of your buddies into a thread for your rabid diatribes?

Solemeini was a terrorist and his group, the IRGC Qods Force, is a terrorist entity because of their direct involvement in terrorism and not because of Jewish control like you force yourself to believe.

Not according to Canada, its not because of direct involvement in terrorism.
Again, here you are trying to justify assassination and Trump warmongering to start a war with Iran.

That's why Israel comes up, because the only reason you rant on and on about Iran is because you want war.

Criticizing apartheid is not anti-semitism, basketcase.
Supporting apartheid is the crime here.
Trying to stop discussion of the apartheid you back with allegations of racism is hilariously pathetic.
Apartheid is the racism in this thread, and that makes you the racist here, not me.

 

[danmand]

 

[basketcase]

Wow. Posting Iranian propaganda and threats. Not surprising from danny.

 

[basketcase]

Not according to Canada, its not because of direct involvement in terrorism.
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I love how you make shit up all the time. After claiming that Canada's intelligence agencies bowed to political/Jewish pressure you are now somehow privy to their discussions.

But sure, keep trying to pretend that it is wrong to call an Iranian terrorist a terrorist just because of his involvement in terrorism.

 

[Frankfooter]

I love how you make shit up all the time. After claiming that Canada's intelligence agencies bowed to political/Jewish pressure you are now somehow privy to their discussions.

But sure, keep trying to pretend that it is wrong to call an Iranian terrorist a terrorist just because of his involvement in terrorism.

I love how when I quote what's actually posted you accuse me of making stuff up.

If you want to label countries and armies as terrorists, then you're going to have to explain why you back Israeli terrorism.
After all, you've admitted that nothing Iran has done comes anywhere near Israel's 50 years of occupation, apartheid and the weekly shooting of protesters that killed over 200 and injured 14,000 civilian protesters.

Why, in your weird little mind, would Israel not be the terrorists here?

 

[basketcase]

I love how when I quote what's actually posted you accuse me of making stuff up.

If you want to label countries and armies as terrorists, then you're going to have to explain why you back Israeli terrorism.
After all, you've admitted that nothing Iran has done comes anywhere near Israel's 50 years of occupation, apartheid and the weekly shooting of protesters that killed over 200 and injured 14,000 civilian protesters.

Why, in your weird little mind, would Israel not be the terrorists here?

I am not the labelling countries and armies as terrorists. I am stating the groups that Canada has labelled as terrorists. Solemeini's IRGC Qods force have been listed as a terrorist entity for almost a decade and your only defense is to yell they're not and blame influence of Jewish groups.

And it should be embarrassing for you to claim it's bad to label countries as terrorists considering you have spent at least 3 handles on terb doing exactly that on Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

I am not the labelling countries and armies as terrorists.

No, that's governments doing it for political reasons, as you stated earlier.
Just like the US labelling Cuba as a state of terrorists and Canada succumbing to political pressure to label Iran the same.
That's the point, its countries using the label to justify their own actions, quite often war crimes of themselves.

I am stating the groups that Canada has labelled as terrorists. Solemeini's IRGC Qods force have been listed as a terrorist entity for almost a decade and your only defense is to yell they're not and blame influence of Jewish groups.

And it should be embarrassing for you to claim it's bad to label countries as terrorists considering you have spent at least 3 handles on terb doing exactly that on Israel.

My interests are anti war and anti racism, end of statement.
I argue against your warmonger against Iran and racism against Palestinians the same way I argue against right wingers like contact and dutch oven.
You and they are one and the same.

Iran hasn't started any wars in 200 years and their human rights record sucks, but its a bowl of chocolates compared to Israel's occupation, apartheid and state terrorism which you have now labelled as plain 'terrorism'.

Israel is apartheid and keeps bombing and trying to start way more wars than Iran.
End of statement.

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[basketcase]

No, that's governments doing it for political reasons, as you stated earlier.
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Pathetic lies to justify your anti-semitc conspiracy theory that it was only done because of pressure by Jewish groups (and somehow pretending that the campaign by a group starting in 2018 somehow made the Canadian government lie in 2012).

And your posting history quite clearly shows your interest in anti-racism has you continually ignoring racism against Jews if it helps your anti-Israel crusade (such as overt racism from Hamas) and you anti-war opinions don't seem to apply to Iranian terrorist groups.

Canada declared the IRGC Qods Force (formerly led by Solemeini) as a terrorist entity because of their terrorist activity, no matter what conspiracy theories you want to put out there.

 

[Frankfooter]

Pathetic lies to justify your anti-semitc conspiracy theory that it was only done because of pressure by Jewish groups (and somehow pretending that the campaign by a group starting in 2018 somehow made the Canadian government lie in 2012).

And your posting history quite clearly shows your interest in anti-racism has you continually ignoring racism against Jews if it helps your anti-Israel crusade (such as overt racism from Hamas) and you anti-war opinions don't seem to apply to Iranian terrorist groups.

Canada declared the IRGC Qods Force (formerly led by Solemeini) as a terrorist entity because of their terrorist activity, no matter what conspiracy theories you want to put out there.

Could you stop pushing your anti-semitic tropes?
Just because one Israeli lobbying group was successful on issue doesn't mean that they control the world.
Tone it down.

As for your claims of anti-Semitism, you're barking up the wrong tree and you know it. You can try to push the IHRA definition of anti-semitism, but you know its a losing strategy that will only increase anti-semitism, not stop it. Trying to claim that Israel = the Jewish people means that you are trying to equate every Jew with apartheid. We both know that's wrong headed and wrong. You can't defend apartheid out of one side of your mouth while you scream 'anti-semite' out of the other, its just wrong.

I'm on this board arguing against racism, you do the same except when it comes to Israel, where you become like zailbetter.

Canadians who are more likely to see criticism of Israel and Zionism as legitimate are also more likely to reject antisemitic statements about Jewish Canadians, and vice versa. “For too long, supporters of Israel have tried to claim that criticism of Israel is associated with support for antisemitic sentiments, but the opposite is true,” said George Bartlett, chair of UNJPPI. “In fact, it is those who are least tolerant of criticism of Israel that are more likely to believe that accusing Jews of controlling the media, for example, is legitimate.”

That means that you are now calling IJVCanada and B'teselem all anti-semites, along with a host of other organizations.

A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid

More than 14 million people, roughly half of them Jews and the other half Palestinians, live between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea under a single rule. The common perception in public, political, legal and media discourse is that two separate regimes operate side by side in this...

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[basketcase]

Could you stop pushing your anti-semitic tropes?
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Funny that the guy who claims that the Canadian government lies about terrorist designation only because of pressure from Jewish groups.

And the fact that you think a Jewish campaign in 2018 somehow convinced the government to lie in 2012. Just keep digging the hole deeper. It's just one more example where you happily embrace anti-semitism if you think it helps your anti-Israel crusade.



Are you still afraid to admit that Canada considers Solemeni's force a terrorist entity?

 

[Frankfooter]

Funny that the guy who claims that the Canadian government lies about terrorist designation only because of pressure from Jewish groups.

You're lying about my position and the governments position.
Just cut it out, its boring.

And the fact that you think a Jewish campaign in 2018 somehow convinced the government to lie in 2012. Just keep digging the hole deeper. It's just one more example where you happily embrace anti-semitism if you think it helps your anti-Israel crusade.

Holy shit, are you still pretending that B'nai Brith wasn't part of a successful campaign, that they advertised on their site, to add the IRGC to the terrorist designation in 2020?
You know the designation was changed, so stop being an asshat and pretending you don't.
And no, this was a single organization on one issue, it wasn't the entire people or part of a vast conspiracy, as noted by IJVCanada's views against B'nai Brith.
Enough with your tropes.

Are you still afraid to admit that Canada considers Solemeni's force a terrorist entity?

Its a political designation that is only used to justify war and war crimes itself.
As we've discussed and you've confirmed, Israel commits far more acts of terrorism, war crimes, apartheid and crimes against humanity than Iran does.
The new view that states and armies can be labelled 'terrorists' means that Israel should now be labelled as terrorists.
Including Netanyahu and the IDF.

Is that what you really wanted?

 

[jsanchez]

Wow. Posting Iranian propaganda and threats. Not surprising from danny.

Pseudo leftists acting as mouthpieces for a sadistic right wing regime led by clerics, propaganda tools in other words.

 

[Frankfooter]

Pseudo leftists acting as mouthpieces for a sadistic right wing regime led by clerics, propaganda tools in other words.

Are you complaining about Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia or Trump's religious clowns now?

 

[basketcase]

You're lying about my position and the governments position.
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Canada considers the IRGC Qods Force a terrorist entity and has done so since 2012. That is an undeniable fact. Your only defence for your beloved is to claim it is there because in 2018, a Jewish group was lobbying about the entire IRGC.

You are a fraud who claims to be fighting for human rights while embracing anti-semitic conspiracy theories and making excuses for violence from those who hate Israel as much as you.

(and you've embraced similar tropes about Jewish control, money, and loyalties on at least a half dozen occasions)

 

[basketcase]

Pseudo leftists acting as mouthpieces for a sadistic right wing regime led by clerics, propaganda tools in other words.

People like him and Franky are so obsessed with Western countries being evil that they happily support any group opposed to them.

Nothing about left or right, simply people with pathetic attempts to defend their preconceived ideas while violating their other beliefs. No difference from the right complaining about cancel culture while not getting that from a corporate perspective its driven by purely capitalist ideas.

 

[Frankfooter]

Canada considers the IRGC Qods Force a terrorist entity and has done so since 2012. That is an undeniable fact. Your only defence for your beloved is to claim it is there because in 2018, a Jewish group was lobbying about the entire IRGC.

You are a fraud who claims to be fighting for human rights while embracing anti-semitic conspiracy theories and making excuses for violence from those who hate Israel as much as you.

(and you've embraced similar tropes about Jewish control, money, and loyalties on at least a half dozen occasions)

Stop pushing these anti-semitic tropes, basketcase.
Just because B'nai Brith successfully lobbied on one issue is no reason for you to claim that there is some kind of conspiracy.
They are a lobbying group who posted about it on their website, how is it a trope to note that?


Canadians who are more likely to see criticism of Israel and Zionism as legitimate are also more likely to reject antisemitic statements about Jewish Canadians, and vice versa. “For too long, supporters of Israel have tried to claim that criticism of Israel is associated with support for antisemitic sentiments, but the opposite is true,” said George Bartlett, chair of UNJPPI. “In fact, it is those who are least tolerant of criticism of Israel that are more likely to believe that accusing Jews of controlling the media, for example, is legitimate.”

It took 8 years to get the IRGC listed as terrorists, how long will it take for Israel and Netanyahu to become listed as terrorists, given the repeated slaughters in Gaza, occupation and apartheid?
Certainly Canada was slow to sanction South Africa for apartheid, its not unexpected that this will also be slow.

But stand by, its starting.
I just wished you make a stand against racism instead of spending all this time pushing tropes and trying to justify war and apartheid.