Sweden says its coronavirus approach has worked. The numbers show a different story

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There goes the false narrative that Sweden hasn't been seeing an increase in cases.

"In the past week, Sweden registered almost 30 daily cases per million, up from just under 20 at the end of July. Sweden’s decision to avoid a full lockdown has already resulted in a considerably higher death rate than elsewhere in the Nordic region."

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"Faced with the reality of a winter surge, Sweden is finally bringing in some harsher restrictions after months of being one of the few countries with no lockdown":

"... Sweden has now put five of its 21 regions under stricter guidelines as it faces the same problem as much of the rest of Europe: the virus is now spreading faster than it was at its first peak.

"...On October 29, Sweden's Public Health Agency announced stricter new advice for Stockholm, the capital, as well as the counties of Västra Götaland and Östergötland.


"Residents are told not to attend or throw parties, to avoid indoor locations like shops and museums, and to avoid unnecessary trips on public transport. Workplaces have to take more steps to protect people.

It follows similar guidance brought in for the university town of Uppsala on October 19, and for the Skane region — which includes the major city of Malmö — on October 27.

Eva Melander, the doctor in charge of infectious diseases in Skåne, said at a press conference: "It's a very worrying development. We are in a completely different situation from what we were in only a week ago.. Now we need to slam on the emergency brakes to stop this development."

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Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist and the driving force behind its approach, warned in late October that Sweden was approaching a "critical point" as the number of new cases reported a day rose by 70% in a week.

Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper reported that, as of last week, coronavirus cases were increasing in 17 of the country's 21 regions.

And The Local Sweden reported that the number of critical care patients in the country has increased.


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Faced with the reality of a winter surge, Sweden is finally bringing in some harsher restrictions after months of being one of the few countries with no lockdown

Sweden famously didn't implement many lockdown measures, and its death rate soared. It's now pushing a stricter approach.
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That doesn't make sense. I thought that their previous approach was so successful (3 or 4 countries out of 40 were doing worse) and they'd achieved herd immunity. Colour me baffled.
 
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" Like elsewhere in the Nordics, high levels of trust towards authority in Finland have meant that there has been little resistance to the government's measures."

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Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight

As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.
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Phil C. McNasty

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lenny2 said:
" Like elsewhere in the Nordics, high levels of trust towards authority in Finland have meant that there has been little resistance to the government's measures."

www.ctvnews.ca

Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight

As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.
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Finland =/= Sweden you genius.

Try again 😂
 
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Sweden's strategy of fighting Covid-19 might have been
the right one to employ at a later time after putting a lid on
the initial spread of the virus by a hard lock down. It is time
for the world to refrain from resorts to hard lock down
and ease some of the restrictions on contact between people.
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
Finland =/= Sweden you genius.

Try again 😂
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You didn't read the article, did you?

"HELSINKI, FINLAND -- As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.

Although much international attention has been focused on next-door Sweden's light-touch response to the virus, Finland has quietly succeeded in keeping infection levels five times below the EU average, with a lesser hit to its economy and one-tenth the number of deaths per capita of its Scandinavian neighbour.

In the last two weeks, the Nordic country has recorded 45.7 new cases per 100,000 population -- the lowest rate in the EU according to the WHO and the only country in the bloc whose rate of new infections has slowed since the previous fortnight."

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Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight

As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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lenny2 said:
You didn't read the article, did you?

"HELSINKI, FINLAND -- As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.

Although much international attention has been focused on next-door Sweden's light-touch response to the virus, Finland has quietly succeeded in keeping infection levels five times below the EU average, with a lesser hit to its economy and one-tenth the number of deaths per capita of its Scandinavian neighbour.

In the last two weeks, the Nordic country has recorded 45.7 new cases per 100,000 population -- the lowest rate in the EU according to the WHO and the only country in the bloc whose rate of new infections has slowed since the previous fortnight."

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www.ctvnews.ca

Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight

As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
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You really dont read very well. Here's my question again:

You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
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Phil C. McNasty said:
You really dont read very well.
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I'm quite sure that describes you better than me.

Phil C. McNasty said:
Here's my question again:

You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
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Do you have anything to oppose it? Evidently it's quite well known.

"Like elsewhere in the Nordics, high levels of trust towards authority in Finland have meant that there has been little resistance to the government's measures."

www.ctvnews.ca

Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight

As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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lenny2 said:
I'm quite sure that describes you better than me.



Do you have anything to oppose it? Evidently it's quite well known.

"Like elsewhere in the Nordics, high levels of trust towards authority in Finland have meant that there has been little resistance to the government's measures."

www.ctvnews.ca

Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight

As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
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You still havent answered my question. Show me official stats please.
Here's my question again in case you need help answering it

You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
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Phil C. McNasty said:
I asked you first.

You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
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Why would i need stats when everyone i've read on the topic (multiple sources) says that is the case.

That's evidence.

OTOH you've posted nothing to the contrary.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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lenny2 said:
Why would i need stats when everyone i've read on the topic (multiple sources) says that is the case.

That's evidence.

OTOH you've posted nothing to the contrary.
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Thats what I thought, you dont have any stats (which is what I asked for)
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
I asked you for stats first.
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Your nonsense exposed & refuted:

 
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