Bottom line: Sweden (no lockdown) is the winner. UK, Spain, Italy, Belgium are the losers
Some masks better than others
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That doesnt explain why explain why Spain, Belgium and UK have less elderly people and yet a higher death rate than Sweden
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You're not looking at the whole graph from when the pandemic first started, smartypants. Try again
I already explained that to you, when you have almost no deaths that means virtually all new infections are young people. The more young people you infect, the faster you build up herd immunity because they dont tend to get sick (or get sick a lot less), therefore they are out in bars, schools, restaurants......etc on a daily basis infecting even more young people.
But you need a certain level of intellect to understand this, and its clear you dont have that
That doesnt explain why explain why Spain, Belgium and UK have less elderly people and yet a higher death rate than Sweden
You're not looking at the whole graph from when the pandemic first started, smartypants. Try again
The fact that you consistently fail to read and understand yet you reply back with more nonsense. Also the fact that instead of comparing Sweden to it's Nordic bordering neighbours Denmark, Finland, Norway who they have more similarities with you keep comparing them to others is self explanatory.
Now like I said in the previous post "Those are not the only differences, now go re read and understand what they are and come back."
Looking at the Sweden graph one would have to be completely oblivious to the numbers and unaware of how graphs and trends work to assume the numbers are still in a downward trend.
Here is the hint again. Your drawn line across the graph needs be a lot shorter to distinguish when the downward trend ended. Sweden has been in an upward trend since the beginning of September.
No its not self explanatory. You just enjoy pulling shit out of your ass and passing it on as facts
I did. They're still bullshit
Here's another hint. The 2nd Swedish wave is considerably smaller than the first one.
Thats a fact. This proves that less people are getting infected
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Like I said you have a lack understanding of everything. That’s why you look at the graph and see a downward trend meanwhile Sweden has actually seen an upward trend since the beginning of September
That’s also why you think the elderly population in Italy Vs Sweden is not a big difference and only understand it as a 3% difference and not the population, meanwhile in reality the difference is over 11,000,000 people which is larger than Sweden’s population.
It’s clear where your getting your facts from.
Now post another picture of your European passport as that in your mind gives you credence to your non factual posts.
Oh I understand it perfectly. I countered your dumb argument that Italy had more elderly people, but then you fail to explain away why countries like UK and Spain have less elderly citizens, and yet they still have a higher infection rate per capita than Sweden.
And Spain locked down, while Sweden didnt. So your argument once again falls apart.
And me living in Europe for 15 years does indeed give me a much better perspective than someone who's lived in Scarborough all their life
Sorry I didn't see a passport picture in one of your recent posts so I forgot.Oh I understand it perfectly. I countered your dumb argument that Italy had more elderly people, but then you fail to explain away why countries like UK and Spain have less elderly citizens, and yet they still have a higher infection rate per capita than Sweden.
And Spain locked down, while Sweden didnt. So your argument once again falls apart.
And me living in Europe for 15 years does indeed give me a much better perspective than someone who's lived in Scarborough all their life
You're right how can I reason with someone whose lived in Europe for 15 years who is just so informed on the facts.That he knows and fully understands the great similarities between Nordic countries and their people (Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden) and the differentiating ones than the rest of Europe.
You know the same person who is so knowledgeable and insightful about facts that he understands the small difference between the number of Italian Vs Swedish who are over 65 years old is just a 3% difference, after all taking their respective population into consideration it only accounts for a very small, minimal, low, insignificant, miniscule number of 11,000,000+ people in contrast to one another.
After all this absolutely well educated and extremely informed person AKA "Stable Genius" is so aware and fully understands the utmost importance of keeping the rate of transmission to a low level is of the most importance in being able to control the spread of the Coronavirus to as low as possible and those countries who were most affective in doing so are the ones who are fairing the best in comparison to others.
In case people want to understand this is what a downward trend really looks like
Oct 7---------831
Oct 8---------835
Oct 9---------783
Oct 10-------509
Oct 11-------161
Oct 12-------637
Oct 13-------916
Oct 14-------968
Oct 15-------904
Oct 16-------1180
Oct 17-------698
Oct 18-------321
Oct 19-------771
Oct 20-------1293
Oct 21-------1206
Of course there is also the 7 day average showing the downward trend as well
Sept 1--------162
Oct 21--------911
Oct 7---------831
Oct 8---------835
Oct 9---------783
Oct 10-------509
Oct 11-------161
Oct 12-------637
Oct 13-------916
Oct 14-------968
Oct 15-------904
Oct 16-------1180
Oct 17-------698
Oct 18-------321
Oct 19-------771
Oct 20-------1293
Oct 21-------1206
Of course there is also the 7 day average showing the downward trend as well
Sept 1--------162
Oct 21--------911
Nah, lockdowns were a success:
What is obviously clear is due to lockdowns:
1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637
They're the winner because they're only 4th worst?
The fact that you omitted most of the countries that are doing much better says a lot.
Sweden just re adjusted the number of cases for the week, as per usual for them to do. Oct 21 was originally listed at 1,206 new cases
New number of cases
Oct 21----------1,575
Their 7 day average has changed on Oct 21 from 911 cases
Oct 21----------964
Which is their 2nd highest daily total number of cases ever. His claims about herd immunity have always been wrong, first it was based on the number of deaths, then it based in comparison to countries who were seeing a bigger wave. At no point is reaching herd immunity based on any of those facts.
Herd immunity can be seen in rate of transmission in the community, the rate of transmission in Sweden is high and has shown no sign of reaching or being near herd immunity.
You guys love to compare Sweden to just 3 countries as well (Denmark, Finland and Norway), but when I compare Sweden to 4 other EU countries suddenly you claim that doesnt prove anything. Thats hypocrisy at its finest
Too small of a sample sizeIn case people want to understand this is what a downward trend really looks like
Oct 7---------831
Oct 8---------835
Oct 9---------783
Oct 10-------509
Oct 11-------161
Oct 12-------637
Oct 13-------916
Oct 14-------968
Oct 15-------904
Oct 16-------1180
Oct 17-------698
Oct 18-------321
Oct 19-------771
Oct 20-------1293
Oct 21-------1206
Of course there is also the 7 day average showing the downward trend as well
Sept 1--------162
Oct 21--------911
Thanks for the compliment
Do you have a link to an official government statistics site that backs up these claims?? Or are you just assuming all this??
But hardly anybody is dying. Only 4 deaths in the last week or so.
That tells me almost all new infections are young people.
Thats best and quickest way to get herd immunity
Road deaths are down 70% – but is there a plan to keep them low?
Road deaths are down 70 per cent – but is there a plan to keep them low?
In a normal year, around 150 people a month die from road traffic collisions. But under lockdown deaths have plummeted.
www.newstatesman.com
U.S. traffic deaths are down for the third straight year
Traffic deaths in the U.S. fell for the third consecutive year in 2019, the government's road safety agency reported.
www.marketwatch.com
Traffic collisions are plummeting in several US cities
In the average week in San Francisco, California, since the start of 2019, there are typically about 260 calls made to 911 about traffic collisions. For the week of March 17-23, there were just 110. It was the fewest number of traffic collision calls over a seven-day period in over 17 years...
Many kids & young people's lives have already been saved due to the worldwide lockdowns.
Because motor vehicle accident deaths are the #1 leading worldwide cause of death in such.
"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens."
"Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world.4
"...Road traffic injuries are estimated to be the eighth leading cause of death globally for all age groups and the leading cause of death for children and young people 5–29 years of age. More people now die in road traffic crashes than from HIV/AIDS.4"
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