Such a person is at extremely low risk of infection or infecting others. Still, it's not accurate to say "there's no reason" such a one "should get infected" or "you'll never get sick".
If you agree with the lockdown....
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It's one way to effectively address the problem of escalating skyrocketing infections leading to many hospitalizations, ICU, long term negative health effects & deaths. We don't want to see hospitals overwhelmed either.
Another way to deal with spiking daily infection numbers before they skyrocket uncontrollably is for people to act responsibly. But since the spike indicates they are refusing to do so, that option is rejected.
Alternatively, instead of a lockdown, police could arrest & or heavily fine the irresponsible. Masks & social distancing could be mandated & enforced by hiring unemployed persons as C-19 enforcement officers to enforce such things.
Covid causing brain damage in youths:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covi...hrome&ie=UTF-8
What is obviously clear is because of shutdowns:
1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637
The WHO said there is a time & a place for lockdowns.
Tell that to the countries in Asia that have been successful with lockdowns. If you lockdown for a month that will get rid of the virus in Canada. Then the only cases that we will have are imported ones. The way we initially got it. If every country lockdowns for a month it would be gone. I agree the medical system isn't equipped to handle it but no countries was. That was clearly evident. China had to build field hospitals just to keep up. Be realistic, no country is ready to deal with a pandemic. No country can afford to spend on a "what if" situation. Our health care system is stretched to the max already. I agree with the flights coming in. There is no good reason for it but our PM refuses to do anything about it. You said there's a plethora of strategies to deal with it. Like what? What do you propose? What would you rather have bankrupted and citizens with mental issues or dead ones and ones that now have permanent health issues because they had COVID and now strain the system even more. I have one more comment, it might not be popular but that's how I feel. Nothing is worse than dying or having permanent health issues. You can always recover from bankruptcy and mental heath issues. You can't recover from death or permanent damage to your health because you had COVID.
Utternonsense If all people practiced all the preventive measures of face masks, social distancing, proper hygiene, staying home if ill, and contact tracing we can wouldn't need subsequent shutdowns.
But unfortunately as Canadians many people including yourself as per your posts are more concerned about yourself than the greater good of the community #whataboutme
The government has done exactly that. I explained it to you earlier. Here is the link but I will post it here for you to read and understand and for all to read it.
"The province has added 1,035 acute care beds and 1,492 critical care beds and taken steps to ensure hospitals have the staff available to care for a sudden surge in patients.
"Thanks to the hard work and relentless preparation of our hospital staff to build capacity in our hospitals, we are in a position to better allocate resources to sectors that are in critical need and respond to any potential surge in cases," said Premier Doug Ford. "When you combine these life-saving beds with the very best care delivered by our highly skilled hospital staff, our patients will definitely have a fighting chance against this deadly virus."
Hospitals across the province have taken steps to make more beds available for COVID-19 patients in every region of the province. As a result, Ontario has a total of 20,354 acute care beds with a potential for an additional 4,205 more acute care beds by April 30, 2020. Of Ontario's 3,504 critical care beds, 2,811 are now equipped with ventilators, up from 1,319 when the outbreak first started."
Ontario Newsroom
news.ontario.ca
Our testing is better now than it was at the early stages in Ontario they are porcessing roughly 40,000/day in tests where in the early stages it was roughly 10,000/day.
Yes we do have flights coming in it's roughly 5% of regular levels, and people are made to quarantine. I have had family members and friends come into the country and they quarantined for the 14 days as per the government. But agan there is a few who are breaking these rules.......you guessed it the #whataboutme crowd.
Utternonsense and again that is not fully what Dr David Nabarro of the WHO said nor what he said should be adopted regarding lockdowns, here are the important part highlighted for you and here is the video again.
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"Requires a high level of organizations by governments and remarkable degree of engagement by the people, both of which in some countries have proven to be difficult."
5:43 mark
"And thirdly it works best if people are onside as they possibly can be, it does mean really levelling with people saying actually the only way we can do this is all of us pulling together, physical distancing, face protection, hygiene, isolating of the ill, not going off to work or the pub if we are feeling rotten and protecting those who are most at risk, if we can combine those various steps what we call "Doing it all" in our organization speak then we can get on top of it. That's what Asian countries have done"
"That's the approach should be adopted."
What you’re saying is IF they actually have a proper lockdown which they aren’t doing. They didn’t do it back in March and they aren’t doing it properly now.
So again it’s NOT going to address the issue. It’s also very hypoctital to shutdown certain businesses and leave others open when there have been outbreaks happening in all kinds of businesses in many different settings. This approach is just going to alienate a segment of society that might just continue to work privately without restrictions. Because people will do what they need to do to pay their bills. In doing so it’s just going to further the pandemic fatigue because people aren’t seeing any results from these so called restrictions.
No need to be overdramatic; Again my stance stays the same: there needs to be a balanced approach that safeguards the whole economic, mental and physical health of society. This ain’t it.
I agree if they had done a China style lockdown in March or April it would be a lot better. I also I agree this half assed approach isn't working although if you had everybody following the guidelines we wouldn't be having this problem. It's that small minority that are causing all the problems. Blame the bankruptcies and mental issues on them not the government. Their selfishness is causing the problem. . You either go full lockdown or just let everyone loose with no restrictions. This is just prolonging the agony. A vaccine will not be an answer. This thing mutates. They will never be on top of it just like the flu
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They should offer to liquify the food, just use a straw, mask can stay pretty much in place
I totatlly agree if we have a China style lockdown for 4-6 weeks we'd be better off. But in Canada how many people will stand for being jailed if they disobey. #whataboutme
In Canada we can not have a China style lockdown as the people will never stand for it.
There are a significant portion of the population in Ontario after 9 months into a pandemic and knowing all the facts that they refuse to put on a face mask, there is even a larger portion of the population still not understanding when an industry as a whole is attributing a significant amount to the spread of the Coronavirus like the bar/restaurant industry has the right thing to do is to shut them down. And they are the problem.
All you're doing with a total lockdown is delaying the inevitable.
Eventually you have to open up, and thats when new infections will start to rise again
Here's the real reason the lockdowns persist 'The Great Reset' includes a digital currency to further the global communist & surveillance agenda
Central banks must move faster on digital currencies amid COVID-19, Bank of Canada says
Central banks must move faster on digital currencies amid COVID-19, Bank of Canada says
Lmao. Literal confirmation of it being a hoax. Room temperature IQ libs still think its some deadly disease though.
Hospitals were never in danger of overflowing.
Stop reading fake news. CNN isn't reliable info.
It is because not enough people have acted as responsibly as you.
Conversely, if even less people had acted responsibly, we'd be getting per capita numbers like they are getting in the U.S.
I don’t know, I think a lot of people, maybe not 100%, have gone with the guidelines.
I think there is something else going on with virus.
You seem incapable of understanding that medical precautions REDUCE risk, not eliminate them.
First off, we have not had a lockdown. We've had varying restrictions but at no point have people been forced inside.
Second, we've done a good job of spreading out the load. Instead of an Italy scenario with overflowing hospitals and morgues, we've ended up with with a manageable situation. Governments have the job of balancing various factors and ours have focused on a middle-ground. We have health precautions that fall short of what is required to eliminate the virus while also trying not to harm the economy too badly.
The countries that have done better than us in terms of virus numbers (other than NZ) are cultures where respect for authority is much higher. We're not the US but obviously we have people like you who think that individuality is moire important than society.
Someone who's quarantined 24/7 and gets their groceries delivered has virtually 0% chance of getting infected
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